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    Rudra and I were just talking in AIM, and he told me a way in which to measure CI without calipers. Here is what he wrote:

    Rudra: Take a full frontal facial photo and a side photo ... ( since a good camera will not distort) you can then put it on a sheet of paper., or even the screen and measure the screen ... ( since the photo is 100% to scale ) and in the same resolution ... you get an accurate number to +/- 2% ( due to two factors SKIN, which we cannot compesate fore , hair ... ( if its significantly short it will not influence the measurement by much.) and lastly tecnique ... you have to know how to measure the scren

    Rudra: Keep in mind ... hair DOES influence the mesurements, but if the head is shaved .... the measurement is flawless... ( you are then only limited by the accuracy of your meter stick ... ( I have some sticks that actually very accurate.. ( and if you really want to spend time... you can pixel count too .

    XI Kalos XI: Well could also matt our hair down first with water, which would probably help a bit, right?

    Siphra: pixel counting will give you the most accurate result without a caliper, but ; I must stress but ,,, it is subjective at both ends ... ( where does my 'face' pixel begin. where does it end...)
    yes it would help alot, anything to flatten it out .

    Siphra: the closer to profile you get the better .


    So...what do you guys think about this? Would it be accurate?

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    Post important things i left out of the IM

    OK :

    1) distance... try to use a tripod, and measure distance to the subject.

    2) make certain that if you have printed the photo out ( or had it devolped) you are at the proper scale . ( 8x10... 8x10 no 8x10 5x7 shit)

    if you are not careful, your photos are not to scale ... but by setting up the photo at a single point ... you get scale photos that can be compared 1 to 1 ... otherwise you need to know alot about computer enhancement.. which I am not qualified to go over in a MB thread.

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    Wouldn't the anthropology department of most Universities have calipers? I would rather march down there and demand that they measure me than take pictures and pixel count x_p

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    Or find a student in physical anthropology. He'd probably be more than willing to measure you.

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    They may refuse you based upon the old ' we do not have the time for this ' ... on the other hand... may be they won't.

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    I think I will go and try! If it doesnt seem to work I'll just single out some male anthropology student who appreciates any form of female attention and get him to do it.
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    I used the pen and paper method, by marking the head width and length on paper (kind of like tracing your head, lol), and it came pretty accurate to the measurement I got later with calipers, which was about 75 if I remember right.

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    NP88:

    Can you explain in a bit more detail how to do that? I'm not sure I follow.

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    I have a 19 Inch screen and my head is bigger than what could be measured, it dont seem to make sense.

    There is of cause the old Method with Roller if you dont have a Calliper,

    The Heimdall Method for roller measure, C.I

    1) Measure the distance from one side of your head to the other, the places over each ear.

    Note this down.

    first measure is from the bone which is over your ear its alittle sticking out
    you measure over head top to other ear bone, that is your wideness


    2) Measure the length, from the point between your eyebrows,
    at the top of your nose, to the back of your head,
    where it sticks out.

    LAST MEASSURE IS FROM "n" (nasal nose bone) to "op"
    in the illustration



    Tips on measuring: try using calipers if you have them, or put your head in
    a sliding door, measuring the gap to see the distance, or use strips of
    paper. None of this will be exact, it is just to get a rough idea of your
    cephalic index.

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    In addition to Heimdalls Method, I can say my Cephalic index was 74,5 in this Method, but around 72-73 with Callipers. I would estimate you Kalos to be Hmmm perhaps even Dolichocephalism, but most like to be Sub-Mesocephalic or Mesocephalic.

    You can buy Callipers cheap (15-30 dollars) some places on the internet. but real Anthropometrical tools are very expensive. (around 400 dollars for a Cephalic Index tool)

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