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    The Proto-Indo-European God

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    I think if Christianity had not come to Europe, paganism would have developed into something like a Western version of Hinduism.

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    In Mormonism it's standard to talk to and about God as the Heavenly Father.


    Quote Originally Posted by Aelfgar View Post
    I think if Christianity had not come to Europe, paganism would have developed into something like a Western
    version of Hinduism.
    I think it would be more like Shinto-like than Hindu-like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoppoyz View Post
    In Mormonism it's standard to talk to and about God as the Heavenly Father.




    I think it would be more like Shinto-like than Hindu-like.
    Quite possibly

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    In Christianity, God is the Heavenly Father, while the Holy Ghost is the Feminine Energy. Not sure for which types of Christianity, but at least in some... In Orthodoxy there's a lot of mixing between old religion and Christian one, quite interesting.

    Here is the oldest representation of Shiva (depiction of the supreme masculine in Hinduism) ever found, from Mohenjo Daro archaeological site:

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    Pashupati seal

    It looks quite similar to one plate of the Gundestrup Cauldron discovered in Denmark (see image here, couldn't upload it in the post, no idea why).

    There are still lots of similarities if we also look into folklore and myths.
    Die Farben duften frisch und grün... Lieblich haucht der Wind um mich.

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    It's important to note that the original Sky Father has a female counterpart Mother Earth.

    It creates a lively interaction, a dance of balance. If one denies the female element Mother Earth and puts all focus on the male (thus infertile) part, this dance comes to a halt and imbalance occurs, thriving towards a standstill.

    Christianity failed to get rid of the female part, which is now represented by the "virgin" (infertility concept) Mary. This however is not christianity but Paganism, because our Aryan minds cant deal with monotheism.
    Ein Leben ist nichts, deine Sprosse sind alles
    Aller Sturm nimmt nichts, weil dein Wurzelgriff zu stark ist
    und endet meine Frist, weiss ich dass du noch da bist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verđandi View Post
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    Without a doubt He is the oldest Germanic and indeed proto-Indo-European deity and yet sadly forgotten.
    http://aryan-myth-and-metahistory.bl...preme-god.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Aelfgar View Post
    I think if Christianity had not come to Europe, paganism would have developed into something like a Western version of Hinduism.
    Maybe, maybe not. We cannot know this for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Christianity failed to get rid of the female part, which is now represented by the "virgin" (infertility concept) Mary. This however is not christianity but Paganism, because our Aryan minds cant deal with monotheism.
    "Muslims have difficulty understanding Christians when the Christians talk of the Holy Trinity. ‘How can God be the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit? How can he one be three?’ It doesn’t correspond with Semitic theology at all. But it was fine among Europeans. They could understand the Holy Trinity. And Hindus, when they’re first introduced to Christianity, have no issues with it at all because this is quite common in Indo-European, for one god to be many things, for a god to be another god at the same time, for different gods to combine to be a new god. And for a god to be a man. A man-god is very Indo-European. That might be why Christ was so quickly adopted by Europeans in certain parts of Europe because the man-god is an archetype that they’re familiar with." — Survive the Jive
    “Every integral man has inside him, in his heart of hearts, a mystic center around which all else revolves. This mystic whirling lends unity to his thoughts and actions; it helps him find or invent the cosmic harmony. For some this center is love, for others kindness or beauty, others the thirst for knowledge or the longing for gold and power. They examine the relative value of all else and subordinate it to this central passion.” - Nikos Kazantzakis, 'Report to Greco'

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    God = Success, Remains

    Abram = Heaven, Sky
    Sarai = Hurricane, Storm
    Haggai = Air, Breeze

    Ismael = Clowd
    Isaak = Darkness, Night, Cancer

    Rebecca = Day, Leo, at sunset in the evening following into the tent of Isaak, veiling in twilight

    Esau = Sun, Evening Dawn, Married to Mercury and Venus; Gemini, Taurus, Orion
    Jacob = Moon, Married to Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn; Gemini, Auriga, Gemini



    There is no such thing like Father in Heaven as Abram .
    It is about positive hope , that there will be a better life, greener fields, somewhere .



    Holy Spirit = Spirit of Truth
    Father = Teacher
    Son = Disciple



    The truth is , I personally can not create a new monotheistic religion ,
    except I want to damage my followers .
    The New Testament had achieved to destabilize the Roman Empire,
    and will likely achieve it again in our lifetime .



    The Jews know , why they don't use the Gad word , since they know , the Thorah is a scam ,
    as intended for children .
    Grown Ups , who can't get rid of childish behaviour , will hang on to the Bible .


    It is up to others , to create a new Monotheistic Religion ,
    and after some time , this will be decrypted also .



    People , who are able to write tons of texts like Günther Gras, JRR Tolkien
    could be considered "superhumans" in their specific trade, and superhumans
    could be considered "gods" .

    One could easily create a cult and culture around some Authors like Johann Wolfgang Goethe ,
    using music by Johann Sebastian Bach , and assemble each Sunday for an hour in some room in
    a building of the Goethe Institute .
    Mk 10:18 What do you call me a good master, no-one is good .

    Gylfaginning 1.39 But on wine alone Odin in arms renowned Forever lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    It's important to note that the original Sky Father has a female counterpart Mother Earth.

    It creates a lively interaction, a dance of balance. If one denies the female element Mother Earth and puts all focus on the male (thus infertile) part, this dance comes to a halt and imbalance occurs, thriving towards a standstill.

    Christianity failed to get rid of the female part, which is now represented by the "virgin" (infertility concept) Mary. This however is not christianity but Paganism, because our Aryan minds cant deal with monotheism.
    I have almost completed my reading of Odin's Wife. Mother Earth in Germanic Mythology by William P Reaves, the translator of Viktor Rydberg's Germanic Mythology Volume 2 Parts 1 and 2 and Our Fathers' Godsaga. I am sure that you would enjoy it.

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