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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarus View Post
    While I likewise doubt that America has much of a future (and I have no intention of salvaging it), it'd be prudent to always expect the possibility of such a scenario (as much as I would personally be against it), so long as America's forests and mountains are intact. But since America was mostly cultivated by it's indigenous peoples, modern Americans are still at a disadvantage since they have no deep connection to the land. Indeed, even when living in the country, the American is still a metropolitan at heart.

    Wasn't Julius Evola shunned by Heinrich Himmler? What does he or Carl Jung or Miguel Serrano have to do with Hitlerism?

    That sounds like fatalism to me. I'm assuming you would concur with Oswald Spengler about the West's decline? These men rely on statistics and graphs in their calculations, they are nothing more than human calculators who fail to take into account emotion (The Flash comic books furnish a good example in the villain DeVoe) and the unpredictable element. The cosmic forces, according to the various pseudo-Christian, pro-democratic occultists, are working to make finance international and to have nations collectively assimilate the Jews (against the will of both Jews and non-Jews). Such an assimilation of Jews can never resolve the Jewish question and will prove untenable in the long run.

    That's not the point. The point is how it's been presented. The Hindus make it seem as if it's absolutely unavoidable, set in stone. Christian prophets also tend to color their presentation this way. Only in the Greek predictions is there reasonable presentation.

    I disagree with that assessment.
    I agree with your comment regarding the lack of the American's deep connection with the land. It is an issue which I have pondered before myself.
    You say that Evola was 'shunned' by Himmler but Evola did actually lecture in Germany and was well thought of. He only met Himmler on one occasion. If you feel that there is some doctrinal difficulties between Himmler and Evola then you need to clarify your position.
    I have never mentioned Serrano but Serrano as you will be aware described himself more as a 'Hitlerist' than a National Socialist and concerned more with the esoteric side of National Socialism. He was a great man and I have many of his books. I also did not mention Jung although I am familiar with his essays on National Socialism. I am not a great fan of Spengler and would in the main regard myself as a follower of Evola. One thing I will say and that is the 'West' has been in decline for hundreds of years. What we are seeing now is its last croak. I am by the way talking about a concept rather than a people.
    I notice that you choose to ignore what the Iranians and the Teutons wrote concerning these days. These events are unavoidable but how we react to them is not preconditioned. It is the one thing that we have control over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    You say that Evola was 'shunned' by Himmler but Evola did actually lecture in Germany and was well thought of. He only met Himmler on one occasion. If you feel that there is some doctrinal difficulties between Himmler and Evola then you need to clarify your position.
    Evola's interests suggest familiarity, learning from a past life, but he was unable to find for himself a firm foundation to build upon.

    Metapedia produces this quote from Evola: "Man is indeed a biological being, but also connected to forces and laws of a different kind, that are as real and effective as the biological realm and whose influence on the latter cannot be overlooked."

    There is only one world force which shapes everything and there are no set of divine laws consecrated for the human community. The laws of nature and the laws of life govern all life and kingdoms. There is nothing immaterial.

    I also see talk about "transcendence" (which he credits Buddhism with, for saving him from suicide), what is that supposed to mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    I have never mentioned Serrano but Serrano as you will be aware described himself more as a 'Hitlerist' than a National Socialist and concerned more with the esoteric side of National Socialism. He was a great man and I have many of his books.
    He impugned the movement with eccentric ideas. Who in this modern age speaks of "Hyperboreans"? Also, it's obvious that what has been attributed to the gnostics (evil god made evil world, all matter is evil, etc.) is absurd. There's NS themed websites which build almost entirely on this rubbish.

    If he were really concerned with the esoteric side of NS, he would have looked no further than pre-Socratic ancient Greece. Almost all post-WW2 interpretations of Hitler's movement (even Savitri Devi) neglect it's esoterics and introduce sectarian division into it's midst.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    I am not a great fan of Spengler and would in the main regard myself as a follower of Evola.
    I see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    I notice that you choose to ignore what the Iranians and the Teutons wrote concerning these days. These events are unavoidable but how we react to them is not preconditioned. It is the one thing that we have control over.
    What did the Iranians say? As for the Teutons, do you mean Ragnarok?

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