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    Dating Is Dead And Millennials Killed It

    From "Have her home by eleven!" to "Netflix and Chill?"

    Travel back in time to the 1900s, and you would see courtship at its finest. Men gaining a father's approval before taking a woman on an actual date, socials where people could mingle respectively and actual respect for marriage and the responsibility it holds. Today, if you mention meeting parents, a large majority of boys go running for the hills (speaking from personal experience). Most couples today don't even go on real dates; "Netflix and chill" has definitely seen to that. There are several problems with what is considered to be "romance" in this generation, and I'm worried that it's only going to get worse over the next few years.

    Ahh, Snapchat. Twitter. Instagram. Facebook, even. Social media has given us a way to be, well, social. If you're like me and you've heard the story of how your parents met just a few too many times, then you would know for a fact that social media probably was not involved. To think that men used to actually walk up to women and ask them on dates sounds pretty absurd, right? Today, social media apps and online dating sites are used so much for this that we have almost forgotten how to communicate in real life. Back in the day of pagers and "Have her home by eleven!" romance was more personal and intricate. Now here we are, sliding in the DMs, getting Snapchat usernames at the bar and swiping right on Tinder.

    Looking at the "L" that dating has taken over the past few years, I can easily say that I am scared for the following generations. It's only going to get worse. What about marriages? Divorce rates have gone up, and the amount of happy couples has severely declined. So many people today are either scared of the commitment or rush into something that they aren't going to give 100% to. Relationships and marriages are huge commitments, and I'm concerned about my generation's capability of handling it.
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    Dating is dead, but millennials didn't kill it. Boomers and Gen X carry way more responsibility.

    Can you imagine, as a guy living today, courting a modern woman the way men did back in the Fifties? It wouldn't work, not simply because of looser morals or "a lack of time" or because it's all so elaborate and stiff, but what kind of man can believe in such a date, in what he's doing? The guys who still sort of try this approach are overbearing fedora wearing "nice guys", and "nice guys" are basically incels who haven't abandoned all hope yet - but their efforts bear no fruits. It's just that we can't go back to that time in which we men believed women to be fairly innocent creatures - feminism happened and revealed women's shadow side - and hence the spell is broken, the illusion is gone, just like the mystery - also gone. Once and for all.

    Feminism humanized women in the eyes of men, and in the process we stopped regarding them like Medieval dames. Women became human, all too human.

    How can traditional dating work today then? You could show up at Nancy's door in your sunday clothes, with flowers & chocolate, and chat with her parents as if you're talking to a priest, but then you recall Nancy is a career woman, an unrepentant feminist of some flavor - who dresses down - swears, has a high body count and is unable to hold a conversation beyond the confines of pop culture and who will probably break up with you as soon as next week or divorce you as late as next year. You already know what she looks like nude because of pictures on social media. She never cooked anything beyond an egg and she will fail as a mother.

    There's nothing more unbelievable than the concept of Nancy as a lady, she lacks all the necessary feminine qualities. You would naturally turn around and run for the hills, give the flowers to your mother and eat the chocolate yourself. Good for you! You're smart.
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    'Dating Is Dead And Millennials Killed It'

    Reminds me a bit of an old quote: 'Chivalry is dead and women killed it.'

    Feminism bears a great deal of responsibility for women's discontentment with modern dating...as ironic as the statement might seem.

    Of course, men allowing the situation to become as it has...also lends responsibility back to our end: Men mold women. Women becoming of the condition they are, is a reflection of what men have allowed matters to become - be it by action or inaction.

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    Parents killed it , by wrong behaviour .

    Media killed it , by promoting wrong behaviour .

    Future Outlook killed it , by destroying hope and goals ( dreams ) by Change .

    Governments killed it , by artificially keeping things alive .
    Mk 10:18 What do you call me a good master, no-one is good .

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    Boomers dated. We had proms. Boys came to the house with corsages and wristlets. My family was spread across the US and this was true for all of us. We dated (usually one person at a time, although very casual dates could involve different people in a month). We went steady, girls got promise rings and class rings.

    Gen X-ers, somewhat notoriously, did not date as much and proms and traditional dating began to disappear. Boomers were certainly more likely to have sex before marriage than their parents (boomers born 1945-1965, which is the usual definition). Gen X-ers also had sex before marriage, but became decidedly less likely to marry (thereby helping improve "divorce stats," which are better now than in the past - because many never marry.

    Now, 50% of children are born to unmarried parents (this was not true of Boomers, even if some of us "had to" get married). Heck, my first husband and I couldn't even rent a place of our own without proof of marriage. That stat (parents not married) has risen steeply within the current reproducing population (born approximately 1985-2002) as they have reached the age of maturity.

    Blaming women doesn't help, by the way. But blaming women is as old as sin. One reason women do not want to date, marry or bear children (now we've got 20-25% of high school senior girls saying they never want children - whereas for boomer senior girls, it was 5-7%) is that men are openly hostile in some many ways, as they are on this thread. Instead of joint problem solving, both sides blame the other. Fortunately, women can at least have some independence and provide for themselves, these days. My protein requirements can be achieved by me, by myself, if I choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodelinda View Post
    Boomers dated. We had proms. Boys came to the house with corsages and wristlets. My family was spread across the US and this was true for all of us. We dated (usually one person at a time, although very casual dates could involve different people in a month). We went steady, girls got promise rings and class rings.

    Gen X-ers, somewhat notoriously, did not date as much and proms and traditional dating began to disappear. Boomers were certainly more likely to have sex before marriage than their parents (boomers born 1945-1965, which is the usual definition). Gen X-ers also had sex before marriage, but became decidedly less likely to marry (thereby helping improve "divorce stats," which are better now than in the past - because many never marry.

    Now, 50% of children are born to unmarried parents (this was not true of Boomers, even if some of us "had to" get married). Heck, my first husband and I couldn't even rent a place of our own without proof of marriage. That stat (parents not married) has risen steeply within the current reproducing population (born approximately 1985-2002) as they have reached the age of maturity.

    Blaming women doesn't help, by the way. But blaming women is as old as sin. One reason women do not want to date, marry or bear children (now we've got 20-25% of high school senior girls saying they never want children - whereas for boomer senior girls, it was 5-7%) is that men are openly hostile in some many ways, as they are on this thread. Instead of joint problem solving, both sides blame the other. Fortunately, women can at least have some independence and provide for themselves, these days. My protein requirements can be achieved by me, by myself, if I choose.
    Thank the Gods that those days are over. The USA sounds as if it were very puritan! Legal marriage is a dying institution and will not be revived. What killed this is greedy wives and easy divorce, all fuelled on by feminism. Men have woken up to the marriage scam and now avoid the whole charade. Mature people do not need the State to validate their relationships. It is a private concern between two individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodelinda View Post
    One reason women do not want to date, marry or bear children (now we've got 20-25% of high school senior girls saying they never want children - whereas for boomer senior girls, it was 5-7%) is that men are openly hostile in some many ways, as they are on this thread. Instead of joint problem solving, both sides blame the other.
    Theodelinda, men's hostility is a justified reaction to systemic feminism - it has little impact on women's wish to become a mother or not. A woman who is not a raging feminist has plenty of opportunity to become a mother. There are still plenty of simps out there who would willingly play the role of unloved husband, sadly. Joint problem solving? Under feminism? More like: pay and shut up. Enjoy being treated like trash. Or else I'll call the cops on you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodelinda
    Fortunately, women can at least have some independence and provide for themselves, these days.
    More acurrately would be to say that the state transfers wealth from men to women and hence men provide indirectly for the single mother lifestyle. Also, affirmitive action. Jobs men desperately need and deserve now go to women. And study after study shows women are not interested in men who make less money than them. Feminism is why they're single - that's true on so many levels.


    Ya'll men need a black pill. So many amongst you still cherish vain and pointless hope - it hurts me to see fellow men setting themselves up for one more disaster on the shorttrack to suicide (1/36 men in my country commit suicide, mostly because of women, duh).

    Women are completely different from what we were led to believe as teens (that's a matter for another post though), their brains are not wired like ours at all - unless we completely smash feminism or the collapse of civilization does away with it, there can be no hope. You're only of any interest to women if you are:

    a) a beta provider with resources - after women made a mess of their lives, probably carry Chad's child and/or failed to land someone better. Being a beta provider sucks, for the woman will never be interested in you, not really, and she'll move on when she can - you'll still be unhappy while you invest money in another man's child or simply her lifestyle. I have friends and family members in this situation and it's hard for me not to feel deeply sorry for them.

    b) you're a bad boy and then women will sleep with you, perhaps even want your child, yet they will still move on either to another bad boy or a beta provider at some point.

    c) you're Chad: a total catch and the full package, meaning you're part of the top 20% of men - you got resources and social status and looks & strength.

    For the rest of us there's not the faintest glimmer of hope - none. That's God's honest truth. All women are like that, no exception. Don't lie to yourself. No more lies. "But Chlodovech", I hear you say, "back in 2003 I had a girlfriend once and she was not like that." I hear you. Women can be naive, you can be suave, you can fool them for a while through various means as they fool themselves for some time - been there, done that - and then you fall flat on your face. Eventually they see through your smoke & mirrors game and the game will be up. Never forget: one mistake = it's over. The slightest slip up means you'll be playing video games for some time again. That's why you were dumped back in 2003. All your relationships die the minute your hypergamous girlfriends realize you're a nobody and they start to think there must be far better men out there (there are, but it's unlikely she can land those better men herself, as they're few and far between and those men don't marry fives and sixes). If you were such a hot shot as man you would currently be in a stable marriage with four children and living in a decent house.

    Either you become part of the 20% (not very likely the way the economy is and the game is rigged against us hordes of Germanic men) or you undermine feminism in any way you can and replace it with a tradcon vision. Until then... stay MGTOW! Don't facilitate feminism nor more Western decadence. Subtle hints.
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