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    Ideally, women want commitment from daring, adventurous "chad nice guys" (most of their fantasies revolve around these supremely rare creatures, it requires an unlikely combination of personality traits - but even in Yaxley's "women's obsession with bad boys: the evidence" thread it's a common theme) or, the second best option, a regular chad - from the same socio-economic class or preferably higher. That, and then they throw in some random physical requirements: he has to be 6ft, have a full head of hair, a chiseled jaw and have an annual 6 figure income. That's where the 80/20 rule comes from: 80% of men don't meet that standard and hence serve no other purpose to women than to keep society running and to pay taxes to single mothers. Meanwhile they're avoided like the plague or otherwise treated very poorly by women.

    Problem: that guy women desire doesn't have to commit as it's relatively easy for such a man to obtain sex and he goes around bedding women at an alarming rate, ruining women in the process (these are the guys women need to avoid at all costs), and those chads who will commit can only commit to one woman.

    Eventually a fairly large but still declining percentage of women settle for "the nice guy" and his beta bucks, the simp who lives in the middle of the plantation and who has been taught all the wrong things about the sexual market place, either by blue pill men or their own single mothers or feminists - for all of their lives - this happens after women failed to obtain commitment from the man I described above. These nice guys bring in money but women neither love nor respect them. They're plow horses, nothing more. And they may be raising Chad's "unwanted child", a leftover from her crazy twenties, a child from the man they truly wanted. Don't be that guy. These women have made their own bed and now they got to lie in it.

    But what about the men?

    Ideally, men want commitment from debt free virgins without tattoos - yes, that's a reductionist view, but in essence it's true. Unless a woman is what you call a 1 out of 10, with bad hygiene and perhaps unable to leave her own bed because of her massive body weight and practically handicapped (and even then...), regardless of her looks there's always gonna be men available to her for commitment, as long as she's still of childbearing age. And there are still so many lonely, usually divorced 50-70 year old men, most likely already fathers, who will do everything to make a post-wall (=infertile) woman commit to them - so of course women don't have to be single for the rest of their lives when not in relationship passed the age of 40.

    Men are not to blame for women's standards, this is all on women. No amount of selfimprovement or confidence or any of that PUA crap is going to save you when you as guy are confronted with a broken system and broken laws or "the chad nice guy" paradox and the requirements outlined above. "Yeah, but Chlod women are biologically programmed to land a fairy tale prince". I don't wanna hear it: I am biologically programmed to inseminate as many women as possible and yet me and many other men have not given in to that desire. Not capitulating to these animalistic tendencies is an absolute requirement for civilization to exist. If state nor society enforces monogamy, you at least gotta lead the monogamous lifestyle yourself - that means no sex without commitment, ever. That also goes for women. Place restrictions on your own sexuality for the sake of people not born yet. It's a socio-political act. If we are not monogamous, we will lose all we have - our wealth, security, everything - and the violent revolt of the betas and incels will be inevitable.

    I've said it before and I will say it again: together with demographics, I consider sex and everything revolving around it, namely relationships, the most important political issue there can possibly be. And ultimately demographics is tied in with that too. Way too important to leave it to chance or women.

    Our ancestors had a solution to the problems we experience now: traditional marriage. Women traded their fertility for a man's resources, while promising to remain chaste and faithful. Men's masculinity remained intact no matter what and women could believe in their husband's masculinity and respect it. At the same time men could love women, invest in them and grow old with them. The fools who refused to enforce monogamy or didn't think it was necessary to place restrictions on sexuality anymore back in the Sixties are some of the worst scumbags to walk on this earth - they've derailed the lives of 100s of millions of men and women. We are eating the bitter fruits of feminism now.

    If you're gonna allow women to date whoever they want, most will end up single and unhappy since they failed to land chad or chad is not on the market any longer - or together and unhappy, because women do not respect nice guys. That's hypergamy for you. And that's the crux of the matter.
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    Chlod, as much as I enjoy reading your personal take on these things, I have to say that this bit in particular is nonsense ...

    I am biologically programmed to inseminate as many women as possible and yet me and many other men have not given in to that desire. Not capitulating to these animalistic tendencies is an absolute requirement for civilization to exist. If state nor society enforces monogamy, you at least gotta lead the monogamous lifestyle yourself - that means no sex without commitment, ever. That also goes for women. Place restrictions on your own sexuality for the sake of people not born yet. It's a socio-political act.
    You (and others of a similar mindset) can maintain this moral high ground for as long as you like but the world is moving on without you. Your claim to be more civilised doesn't hold up as far as I'm concerned because you're using your strict religious values again as your yardstick, which don't apply to 95% of the rest of us. Were you to remain celibate for the rest of your life I doubt that many people would be impressed by you 'not capitulating to animalistic tendencies', as you put it, and your self-imposed abstinence will not have produced any offspring to perpetuate your superior moral standards either. That is the harsh reality!

    State-enforced monogamy - or state-enforced anything - is not the answer. I'm sorry but you cannot get The State to intervene to find you a woman, and if things have now reached the stage where young men are even demanding state assistance in these intimate matters then we really are in a fine mess!

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    Inseminating is good, Chlod. While it is not a solution to the many problems it still does move things into a more favourable direction. You should better try being a Flemish Genghis-khan than a confused ostrich with it's head stuck in it's own ass.
    Or just become a monk if you're that much into all that stuff.
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    I find dating sites a good avenue to navigate, but there are plenty of fake/scamming profiles. Only way to overcome that is to initiate a webcam/skype session.

    I've met some lovely people on dating sites.

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    Our ancestors had a solution to the problems we experience now: traditional marriage. Women traded their fertility for a man's resources, while promising to remain chaste and faithful. Men's masculinity remained intact no matter what and women could believe in their husband's masculinity and respect it.
    Your view of the past is extremely distorted, Chlod. The vast majority of prominent historical figures either had mistresses or at least one divorce. We don't know about the rest of the population because there are no books written about them, but women did not all 'promise to remain chaste and faithful' (..and if so, many broke those promises!)

    Let's just take the Third Reich as an example because I happen to know a bit more about this ...

    Heinrich Himmler - Hedwig Potthast (she bore him 2 children)
    Joseph Goebels - Lida Baarova
    Rudolf Hoess (Auschwitz Commandant) - Eleanor Hodys
    Hermann Goering - twice married
    Walther von Brauchitsch (Army Supreme Commander) – mistress (Hitler made him choose between his mistress & his wife)
    Alfred Rosenberg - twice married
    Sepp Dietrich – twice married
    Erich Raeder (Admiral of Kriegsmarine) – twice married
    Alfred Jodl (Army Chief of Staff) – twice married
    Hans Fegelein (SS officer married to Gretl Braun, Eva’s sister) – had numerous extramarital affairs
    Martin Bormann - had a whole string of mistresses
    Julius Streicher (Editor of 'Der Sturmer') – several mistresses, exact number unknown

    Going back further, the Duke of Wellington and Napoleon both had mistresses, as did Lord Nelson of the same era. It’s the rule rather than the exception and you can even go right back to Julius Cesar!!!

    I don’t dispute that morality has shifted a bit over the past few decades but the assumption that women were once all chaste and faithful and only existed to support their husbands is totally false.

    Many of those who talk about ‘our ancestors’ put some romanticised spin on things and (vaguely) assume there was once some 'Golden Age' when everything was rosy. The problem is that nobody can tell you when this 'Golden Age' was and the thread I started about the 13th century a couple of months back is just full of delusional comments about gallant knights and young virgins. It bears no resemblance to reality; as if everyone had just read a book of fairy tales that they dearly wanted to believe.

    So if you're going to tidy up present-day morality, Chlod, then firstly you must get a better grasp of the past. As a result, your expectations will be more realistic because you will not be aiming for some 'ideal' society that has never existed. In actual fact, the only thing that is truly *unique* about the modern age is that young men are now giving up all interest in women, which is a very worrying development without (AFAIK) any historical precedent!

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