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    Post Mtebids and Gorids

    Lets shed some light on these two rather unknown subtypes.

    MTEBID:
    Mtebid is a very tall, well-builded who by the name suggest(Mtebid means "mountains" in Georgian) lives in the mountainious regions of the Caucasus ranges. They are adapted to the local climate and are very good mountaineers. The facial feauters are a bit harder to define; They are often mistaken for Dinarid or depigmented Armenoid(Mtebid is a type of these so anyway). The face is often quite wide with a strong cheek and large wawy nose. They are probobly more common in Northeastern Caucasus than in the Western part; Chechens, Ingushes, Ossetians, Dagestanis(sometimes) and first of all Georgians tend to be Mtebids. The Western part (Abkhazia, Kabardino-Balkarija, Karaevo-Circass republic etc) are more Eastern Med(Pontoid), Dinarid, and Gorid, but Mtebid is a factor there too.
    Mtebid can also turn up in Russians due to mixture with Caucasians, especially in the Kuban area.
    Examples of Mtebids:

    (Stalin, Georgian)

    (Georgian model)

    (Georgian)

    (Georgian foreign minister)

    (Georgian)

    (Ossetians)

    (Chechen)

    This Chechen general is a really good example of a Mtebid
    http://www.chechnyafree.ru/images/photo/1/5327.jpg
    Note the eyes, the nose and the facial form.

    Let's move on to GORID:
    Gorid is a type not too unique for the Caucasus, you can find Gorids even in Hungary and Poland. Gorid are often to confuse with Alpinid as they are a more eastern variant.
    Example of Gorids:
    http://www.kavkazweb.net/foto/albums...2%E8%ED%E0.jpg
    (Ossetian)

    (Georgian)

    (Georgian)

    (Georgian)
    http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.p...id=20568&stc=1
    (Georgian)

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    Post Re: Mtebids and Gorids

    Great thread and very nice collection of photos Tbilisi, congratulations, and thank you. I'd be happy to see even more examples, as you come across them. Also, do you think you could include the Western Caucasian variants of Pontids if you happen to have examples of them too? I have a few photos in my collection which I'd be happy to share once I get around to organizing my back-ups. Northwestern Caucasian Pontids are different from, say, Bulgarian Pontids for example as the Gorids (eastern variant of Alpine, as you say) are rather different from western Alpinids.

    Great job.

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    Post Re: Mtebids and Gorids

    Sure, nema problema. But I just can't find them right now. Can you post your examples first?
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    Post Re: Mtebids and Gorids

    Quote Originally Posted by Tifilis
    Sure, nema problema. But I just can't find them right now. Can you post your examples first?
    I will, once I find which CD they're in. With the inevitable crashing of my computer I was lucky to get back-ups, you know.

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    Well, okey. I'll try to find them here too..

    Mtebid also got diffrent subtypes. Like.. depigmented and stuff. They are also important in the Western Caucasus, where they mix with the Pontids, creating their own "Abkhazoid" type.
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    Post Re: Mtebids and Gorids

    I think you can blame the Nortwestern Caucasian Pontids diffrence from example Bulgarian ones on the Mtebid type. They have been mixing for quite some time, when the cold-adapted tall sherpherds came down from the Svaneti area and went into Circassia(for example) and the other parts.

    President Alhanov is maybe such a "PontoMtebid" type

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    Post Re: Mtebids and Gorids

    Here is a really good gallery
    http://www.nalmes.ru/eng/gallery/index.html
    Most of them display "Mteboid" or Armenoid features, but look trought and give examples. Some are even to the border of Afghanid, this type too exist in the Caucasus(but in extrem minority, a recent type to that mountain range).

    Maybe you Rusalka can find some Pontids among them.

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    Post Re: Mtebids and Gorids

    Here are some supposedly Western Caucasian Pontids:
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    Post Re: Mtebids and Gorids

    Quote Originally Posted by Tifilis
    Well, okey. I'll try to find them here too..

    Mtebid also got diffrent subtypes. Like.. depigmented and stuff. They are also important in the Western Caucasus, where they mix with the Pontids, creating their own "Abkhazoid" type.
    Could you please provide a list with more detailed descriptions of those sub-types? Whose taxonomy are you using?
    "slavic" languages are absolutely arteficial (Read "slawenlegende"). The "glagolica", invented by a bunch of monks, is nothing but an ancient esperanto, creating new words, definitions and alphabet out of regional slangs.

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    "slovenja" was the settelment of the Langobards = Germanics/Teutons. "Poland" of the Goths and East-Vandals ect. ect. What do "slavs" tell us about their origin?
    Some silly story that they originate from some swamps in the east and popped out of no where into history.

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    Post Re: Mtebids and Gorids

    The text and stuff are from books by among them the Swedish antrophologist Bertil Lundman, and the infos I've gathered comes from diffrent sources.
    I know that Mtebid is a subrace itself from the Taurid group wich includes Dinarid and Armenoid. Read on about the Taurids and you'll find Mtebid.

    III. Taurid Race: mature-boreal, with very high and round skull, very flat occiput and larger nose. At least two subraces: the very tall Dinarid with short arms and the mature-boreal, medium-sized Anatolid or Armenid (and the somewhat less pronounced Mtebid, with a very low frequency of blood type gene q, in the Caucasus).
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