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    Professor Claims Math, Algebra And Geometry Promote ‘White Privilege’

    A University of Illinois math professor believes that algebra and geometry perpetuate “white privilege” because Greek terms give Caucasians unearned credit for the subject.

    But that isn’t the professor’s only complaint. She also believes that evaluations for math proficiency perpetuates discrimination against minority students, if they do worse than their white counterparts.

    Rochelle Gutierrez argues in a newly published math education book for teachers that they must be aware of the identity politics surrounding the subject of mathematics.

    “On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness,” she argues with complete sincerity, according to Campus Reform. “Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White.”
    Gutierrez argues that subjects like algebra and geometry, which relate to arithmetic, also perpetuate racism and white privilege. She worries that “curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans.”

    Gutierrez claims that the importance of math skills in the real world also places what she calls an “unearned privilege” for those who are good at it. Because most math teachers in the United States are white, white people stand to benefit from their grasp of the subject disproportionate to members of other races.

    “Are we really that smart just because we do mathematics?” she asks, raising the question as to why math professors get more grants than “social studies or English” professors.

    “If one is not viewed as mathematical, there will always be a sense of inferiority that can be summoned,” she says, claiming that minorities “have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms… [where people are] judged by whether they can reason abstractly.”

    To resolve the intelligence gap, Gutierrez calls on math professors to develop a sense of “political conocimiento,” a Spanish term for “political knowledge for teaching.”

    She concludes her argument with the claim that all knowledge is “relational,” or is, in other words, relative. “Things cannot be known objectively; they must be known subjectively.”
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/23/pr...ite-privilege/

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    She concludes her argument with the claim that all knowledge is “relational,” or is, in other words, relative. “Things cannot be known objectively; they must be known subjectively.”
    Too much political correctness. Someone is either good or bad at math. There's nothing subjective about it.
    Math is an exact science, so 2 + 2 can only = 4 and not 5 or 6. What is subjective about this?
    It seems to me this is just an excuse to push more "affirmative action" and drop standards.
    It's a known fact that European and Germanic-descended people have higher IQs and produced many of the successful scientists and mathematicians. It's hardly something to debate subjectively...

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    Math is totally colorblind, one can even make it if one hails from a ghetto in India, to give an extreme example. And Algebra is an Arab word because back then, the Arabs developed and understood it, while the Greeks didn’t... they described the same thoughts much less elegantly geometrically because they were obsessed with Geometry, and that’s why it is a Greek word. There are few black mathematicians, admittedly, but that’s not because math is “racist”, it’s rather an IQ thing.

    Of course discussions and evaluations in relation to IQ cannot be held without accusations of racism and discrimination. So what should typically happen to a “racist” math professor who “doesn’t allow blacks to pass?” How would they explain it, if only 20% of their White/Asian students failed in comparison to 80% of their black students? So they tend to let them pass instead of fail, give them C’s instead of D’s or A’s instead of B’s, etc., so that they are considered fair, balanced and objective in their review. And then those students who have been favored, being “equally qualified”, will get the job, even without the need for affirmative action... There was actually a case in South Africa where a female Indian all-A student brought her case to the Constitutional Court because her local university (in Natal) was forced to prefer male black C-students (due to racial quotas; the racial makeup of students at the university has to match the racial distribution in the province). Not sure whether her case was granted or dismissed, but it doesn’t make any sense, of course. If anything, it fosters reverse discrimination.

    Due to this type of affirmative action, whites are the only group which is severely underrepresented at Ivy League universities. But the mainstream media will, of course, complain about “white privilege” and too few Asians, “because Asians are more gifted, so should be higher represented”. Typical...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeternitas View Post
    Math is totally colorblind, one can even make it if one hails from a ghetto in India, to give an extreme example. And Algebra is an Arab word because back then, the Arabs developed and understood it, while the Greeks didn’t... they described the same thoughts much less elegantly geometrically because they were obsessed with Geometry, and that’s why it is a Greek word. There are few black mathematicians, admittedly, but that’s not because math is “racist”, it’s rather an IQ thing.
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    As I recall it, it's a term the Arabs used for a concept they actually took from the Greeks. Diophantus, who actually stood on the shoulder of giants, is the father of Algebra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theunissen View Post
    As I recall it, it's a term the Arabs used for a concept they actually took from the Greeks. Diophantus, who actually stood on the shoulder of giants, is the father of Algebra.
    So he's the jerk who is responsible for causing me so much grief and embarrassment in high school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth Lee Hunter View Post
    So he's the jerk who is responsible for causing me so much grief and embarrassment in high school.
    Hehehe, yes. But Algebra and Maths are very useful. It's also setting the mind for clear cut, rational, logical thinking. That's why mathematical subjects including geometry and astronomy formed the quadrivium, which was part of the seven free arts. They used to be the foundation of academic education.

    And lets face it, if strict mathematical requirements were still a key condition for entering university education, we would have far less problems with leftists in Academia. That's probably the reason why the 'professor' is so up in arms over those subjects and targets them for disparagement.

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    oh dear Thor ...

    I think my BS-o-meter has busted due to over-exertion!

    ...the importance of math skills in the real world also places what she calls an “unearned privilege” for those who are good at it.


    Umm... if math is an important skill in various situations, those who are good at it are the ones you'd want involved in those situations LOL. Where's the problem?

    In the situation of being a window washer for skyscrapers, cell phone tower repair person, high-rise construction worker (etc), the ability of having no fear of heights would be a greater ability than being good at calculus and being clumsy ;-).


    “If one is not viewed as mathematical, there will always be a sense of inferiority that can be summoned,” she says, claiming that minorities “have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms… [where people are] judged by whether they can reason abstractly.”



    If a person isn't good at math , stay out of complex mathematics courses and don't enter it as a profession. It's pretty simple really.


    More over-thinking and projecting biased and idiotic views onto things that don't need to be made into a big fuss.


    (ok, I must not dig up any more older threads in the 'similar threads' list below :-D )

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    have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms… [where people are] judged by whether they can reason abstractly
    This is really the key-word here.
    You dont build a civilisation when you're only able to think from 12 to midday. You need the power of imagination, of abstraction, the ability to break down a big problem (say a clockwork) into many small problems (how to arrange the gearworks so that the hands move in time, different gears, etc).

    In math it's often the same. You're presented an endresult, and your task is to break it down to a calculating. "Minorities" struggle already to understand the task itself, long before they fail to break it down, because they lack by and large the ability to abstraction.

    So yeah, of course higher math is "discriminating" and "expresses white privilege", which is basically a scientifically provable superiority
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    But that isn’t the professor’s only complaint. She also believes that evaluations for math proficiency perpetuates discrimination against minority students, if they do worse than their white counterparts.
    And if they are just as good or even better at it they also somehow profit from white privilege without being white themselves, because that is how the 'logic' of these abelist ranters go. Of course she wants the best kind of doctor for her kids who actually knows it stuff instead going for the incompetent homosexual male-to-female homosexual black women, never admitting to the hypocrisy of it. Universities should really stop pandering to these pseudo-scientists and their participation in #therealwaronscience . But unfortunately it seems that with every day that passes outside intervention is necessary to safe the old prestigious ones, or at the very least ensure that new ones can be founded that can step in their place. That or see how Asian universities will eclipse us in regards to science.
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