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    China Put Secret Spy Microchips in Servers Used by Apple And Amazon, Says Explosive Report

    China secretly inserted surveillance microchips into servers used by major technology companies, including Apple and Amazon.com, in an audacious military operation likely to further inflame trade tensions between the United States and its leading source of electronics components and products, Bloomberg Businessweek reported Thursday morning.

    The article - which the companies vigorously denied - detailed a sweeping years-long effort to install the surveillance chips in servers whose motherboards - the brains of the powerful computers - were assembled in China.

    One affected company had its servers used by US government clients, including Department of Defense data centers, Navy warships and the CIA in its drone operations.

    The extent of the data China collected from the surveillance chips was not clear from the report, and no consumer information was known to have been stolen, according to Bloomberg Businessweek.

    But it said a top-secret US government investigation, dating from 2015 and involving the FBI, remains open.

    The article cited 17 unnamed sources, including industry insiders and current and former US officials.

    The Chinese government, Apple, Amazon and other involved companies disputed the report to Bloomberg Businessweek, and the FBI and US intelligence officials declined to comment.

    Several US officials contacted by The Washington Post said they were uncertain about the accuracy of the Bloomberg Businessweek report. One US official who said Thursday morning that the thrust of the article was true later expressed uncertainty about that conclusion.

    This person spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss matters not approved for public release.

    Amazon called the story "untrue" in a statement. Apple said in a statement that "we have found absolutely no evidence to support any of" the allegations by Bloomberg Businessweek.

    The report came just hours before Vice President Pence was to deliver a stinging rebuke of China in a speech at the Hudson Institute in Washington.

    Pence was expected to issue a range of criticisms at what the Trump administrations sees as China's increasingly aggressive behavior, including allegations by President Trump last week that the country is interfering in the US midterm elections.

    The United States and China are locked in a bitter and escalating trade war, in which hundreds of billions of US and Chinese products are under tariff.

    The reported manipulation of electronics supply chains to US companies are certain to sharpen long-standing questions about the crucial but uneasy relationship between the world's two leading economies.

    American companies design and sell leading technology products, such as servers, laptop computers and smartphones, but they are built and assembled largely in China.

    "This report provides more evidence that China's pattern of behavior is a serious threat to national security and supply chain risk management," said said Senator Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

    "These realities have fundamentally changed the risks for US business – even for companies that have worked in China or with Chinese companies for years."

    US officials long have worried about the potential for altered microchips or other components to be secretly inserted into products and shipped to the United States and elsewhere, opening doors to long-term spying on computer users and their information networks.

    Surveillance through altered hardware is more difficult to execute than more familiar hacks to software, but the results can be harder to remedy because the components must be detected and physically removed, or use of the hardware must be discontinued.

    The surveillance microchips reportedly could have connected to outside computers and secretly downloaded software to bypass security protections, such as passwords or encryption keys, stored elsewhere on the affected servers, enabling remote computerized spying.

    The operation, which Bloomberg Businessweek attributed to a Chinese military unit that specializes in hacking hardware, worked by inserting a tiny, innocuous-looking microchip onto motherboards in servers produced by Supermicro, a leading supplier of such equipment, based in San Jose.

    The company is American, but the motherboards were assembled mainly in China.

    Both Apple and Amazon discovered the surveillance chips in 2015 and took steps to replace the affected servers, according to the report, which described close cooperation between US investigators and affected companies.

    The report said that dozens of companies may have used sabotaged servers in their data centers before the Chinese operation was detected.

    Apple on Thursday morning said, "Apple has never found malicious chips, 'hardware manipulations' or vulnerabilities purposely planted in any server. Apple never had any contact with the FBI or any other agency about such an incident. We are not aware of any investigation by the FBI, nor are our contacts in law enforcement."

    Amazon, which in 2015 acquired a company, Elemental, whose servers reportedly were affected by the Chinese operation, said in a statement Thursday, "At no time, past or present, have we ever found any issues relating to modified hardware or malicious chips in SuperMicro motherboards in any Elemental or Amazon systems. Nor have we engaged in an investigation with the government."

    "There are so many inaccuracies in this article as it relates to Amazon that they're hard to count."

    Supermicro, which did not reply to requests for comment from The Post, said in its statement to Bloomberg Businessweek, "We are not aware of any investigation regarding this topic nor have we been contacted by any government agency in this regard."

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    Maybe a good chance for Trump to bring more production home. Some argue that they would just be spied on by NSA then instead, which might be true enough.

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    This news story is like a lot out there. Seems to be true, based on known-knowns in the industry, however no one will put their name on it. It is unproven and the amount of technical information for such a technical subject is extremely lacking. This means that even qualified people cannot provide their own insights to this story because everything is quite general.

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    Don't think that such news can be trusted. I think that the CIA, Navy, and Department of Defence are smart enough to check their equipment

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    Quote Originally Posted by reontro View Post
    I think that the CIA, Navy, and Department of Defence are smart enough to check their equipment
    They certainly do, but it isn't a case of being smart enough. They do it because they've ran into problems before and use countermeasures to combat it. It wasn't as if they were using these processes the entire time. Besides, this isn't about the government's use of computers, rather this story is about corporate espionage.

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