View Poll Results: Should guns be legal? Choose the option that represents your opinion best.

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  • All guns should be legal, including full-automatic weapons. People should be allowed to carry handguns at their own leisure, concealed or not.

    39 54.17%
  • Guns, apart from full-automatic weapons, should be legal. People should be allowed to carry handguns at their own discretion, concealed or not.

    10 13.89%
  • Guns, apart from full-automatic weapons, should be legal. People should in general not be allowed to carry handguns, be it under license for activities with an increased risk (e. g. transporting money from a company to the bank, driving a cab in the night, &c.)

    12 16.67%
  • In general, nobody but police and military should have guns, with some exceptions maybe, e. g. rifles for hunters.

    11 15.28%
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Thread: Should Guns Be Legal? / The Right to Bear Arms

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    Re: Your opinion on gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-Alpine View Post
    Should firearms be allowed or not?
    Your initial question for the poll was:
    Your opinion on gun control?
    Should be allowed
    Should be disallowed
    Uncertain
    Don't care
    That sounds like you asking, whether gun control should be allowed. But actually you want to know whether firearms should be allowed.

    My answer: Yes, private answer of firearms should be allowed.

    Rather remove individuals from society that "are likely to abuse firearms, or for that reason anything else".
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    Re: Your opinion on gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Berliners Remember View Post
    ...not to mention they are extremely usefull to combat home invasion.
    I contest, I don't know how it is in the USA, but in Germany 90% of all housbreakings are commited wihtout the owners present. People who raid houses with the owners present enter under false allegations and trick the residents, it is actually highly unlikely that one will be able to defend his home with guns to such criminals.

    The only convincing reason to me is for organized defense of an invasion of the country.

    Guns are best to attack, so I also would think that the governmental overthrow thingy of the US constituion is a very good reason too, and thus I am pro gun. I voted Yes.
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    Re: Your opinion on gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    The only convincing reason to me is for organized defense of an invasion of the country.
    That is exactly why they WILL NOT allow it, especially when it comes to Europe or Germany.

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    Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Your opinion on gun control?

    I do not support expanding gun regulations in the US. I think that enforcing the laws that are already there might help but we do not need more hot air. I have only been to Ireland and England once as a teenager and could not give an informed opinion on what is best for european countries. European law systems are different than US law so I cannot see what the affects would be on allowing more guns. I support people's right to self defence but more guns is not nessasarily the answer.


    Quote Originally Posted by Svartr View Post
    They're at least banned to carry in public. And we don't have so many rifle clubs.
    Just in Comparance with the United States weapons are rare stuff here.
    In the USA if somebody pulls a weapon in public every 2nd person around him pulls his/her one out aiming at eachother.
    In germany weapons are banned in public.
    Also weapons is a part of the US-Americans neo-culture.


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    Guns are not that common here in my experience. Ihave only seen a gun being used irrisponibly on one occasion. The store I was working at got robbed. I am friends with several hunters and my father, brother and sister all shoot recreationally. I know several of my father's friends who collect guns as a hobby.My sister-in-law is president of the local SAS. http://www.2asisters.org/ But then I do not go to the scary parts of Toledo or Detroit or Cleveland. Guns culture is exagerated in the media.
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    Re: Your opinion on gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    I contest, I don't know how it is in the USA, but in Germany 90% of all housbreakings are commited wihtout the owners present. People who raid houses with the owners present enter under false allegations and trick the residents, it is actually highly unlikely that one will be able to defend his home with guns to such criminals.

    The only convincing reason to me is for organized defense of an invasion of the country.

    Guns are best to attack, so I also would think that the governmental overthrow thingy of the US constituion is a very good reason too, and thus I am pro gun. I voted Yes.

    My father had to resort to this twice; once before I was born when a man trying to get into the house thankfully gave up (mabye because he was making too much noise trying to gain entry), but my dad stood in the hallway with the handgun.
    Another time when I was much younger my dad chased away a potential burglar lurking around in a similar manner (get this, he actually arrested the man in the past for theft).

    Around here, home invasions are not that common either. It's more often than not that the burglar will look into the kitchen window or backdoor looking to spot a purse, medication, or anything valuable laying out... somthing that would make for a quick grab and getaway, regardless of if the owner is home or away(although there have been attacks in and around my own neighborhood). So it is rare that they would want to stick around and harm you of your family, however, I would not want to take that chance -especially if I have a family of my own.

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    Re: Your opinion on gun control?

    Well, I think I voted the wrong way due to a little confusion on my part with regards to the wording of the poll...

    Anyway, being a rural white American, my answer should be quite obvious.

    I support the right to arm bears.




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    Re: Your opinion on gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Berliners Remember View Post
    So it is rare that they would want to stick around and harm you of your family, however, I would not want to take that chance -especially if I have a family of my own.
    Chances that you are the one actually hurting a family member, or family members hurting themselves with the gun, or even you, are not that low either.
    It would be interesting to see statistics on that, although, who likes statistics ?

    As I said, I am not against guns, and support the right to arm bears Yet, I simply think that this is not a good pro-argument, and that they are not "incredibly usefull" to do so.
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    Re: Your opinion on gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    I contest, I don't know how it is in the USA, but in Germany 90% of all housbreakings are commited wihtout the owners present. People who raid houses with the owners present enter under false allegations and trick the residents, it is actually highly unlikely that one will be able to defend his home with guns to such criminals.
    What gives you the idea that this percentage you gave is actually correct?! In South Africa we get a growing number of house-breakings/raids that are committed by gangs, when the residents are present.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    The only convincing reason to me is for organized defense of an invasion of the country.
    ... or against treason, tyranny etc. That is btw. the only plausible reason I can see, why rational thinking lobby groups would support more gun control. The Anti-Gun lobby inside the South African government even admitted this. They said openly that the FCA is aiming to get legally owned firearms out of the hands of lawabiding citizens. The act won't disarm criminals at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    Guns are best to attack, so I also would think that the governmental overthrow thingy of the US constituion is a very good reason too, and thus I am pro gun. I voted Yes.
    And attack is the best defense.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    Re: Your opinion on gun control?

    Im staunchly against gun control. The notion of an armed citizenry, and it being the best guardians of liberty, is a notion that has a long tradition within our heritage: from the Greek hoplites, to the citizen-soldier of the Roman Republic, to the Fyrd and communal armies of the Medieval period, to colonial militias here in America.

    It's a concept commonly called "civic militarism".


    Anyways....here's food for thought LOL!

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    Re: Your opinion on gun control?

    Yes, gun control should definetly be allowed. Proper aim is a must.

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