Differentiating between Keltic Nordics and North Atlantids

[Ted]

I realise there is another forum for this sort of topic, but I'm having trouble accessing it. Therefore, I was wondering if any of you can help me out here. I sometimes have trouble differentiating between Keltic Nordics and North Atlantids; especially when it comes to females. Attatched you will find a black and white photograph (sorry, no colour available) of British actress, Olivia Colman. To me she looks like a text book Keltic Nordic, but someone else I know who normally is a pretty good authority on such things says she's either North Atlantid or even Paleo Atlantid. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I was of the idea that Keltic Nordics are fairly tall, fine boned, fair complected, light eyed, with curly to wavy brownish-blondish coloured hair. For the record, Miss Colman is 5'7", fair skinned, slight of build with curly chocolate brown hair that has natural golden highlights. The only aberation Keltic Nordicism I see is that her eyes are not pure blue; rather, they are a bluish-brownish, light hazel like colour. Now judging by her appearance and her surname, I would be willing to bet she might be possibly of Irish Catholic extraction, which to me would mean a mix with Irish Brunn type--hence, the lack of pure blue eyes, and the tinges of brown. What do you all think about her racial classification? Atlantids, I would think, would have a little more Mediterranean appearance, wouldn't they? Darker hair, shorter stockier builds, etc., etc..

[Allenson]

Hello--I've moved this thread to the Racial Classifications forum. No worries though on the forum where this thread was started....

Anyway--as for Olivia Colmon, she looks more Brunn to me than anything. This however, is only based on a couple photos:

http://www.dirkmaggs.dswilliams.co.u...rk%20maggs.htm

Scroll down just a bit...

To me, most aspects of her facial phenotype are too broad for the Keltic type- i.e. her forehead (frontal), facial breadth (bizygomatic), jaw (bigonial). Also, from this pic, it seems that her nose is of a lower sort with the "button" tip as opposed to the more salient and higher form seen in the Keltic type (though this is more distinct in men than women it seems).

Regarding pigmentation, while the Brunn type is often somewhat fair of hair and eye, this is not always the case. Some might speculate that this is a result of Atlanto-Med influence.....

[Milesian]

I agree, she looks pred. Brunn.
The forehead looks like it may slope in the first pic, which may indicate slight Keltic Nordid influence, yet it doesn't appear so in the second pic in Dalonord's link, but yes basically Brunn.

I don't see anything that looks North Atlantid

[Milesian]

Atlantids, I would think, would have a little more Mediterranean appearance, wouldn't they? Darker hair, shorter stockier builds, etc., etc..

Paleo-Atlantids tend to be a bit more stocky and darker. North Atlantids are usually gracile however.

[Ted]

I guess the concensus here is that British actress, Olivia Colman is an Irish Brunn. I have a difficult time spotting female Brunn's because they are polar opposites of their male variety. Brunn men to me are very masculine looking like John Wayne, whereas the females have that "cutesy" hyper-feminine Irish girl look. However, I am more curious in being able to pick out female Keltic Nordics. The following girls are all British, so perhaps I am right when I say they are all solid examples of the Keltic Nordic type. Am I wrong? If so, why?

[Zimmer Mann]

I think Jodie Foster would be a good example of a Keltic Nord as well as Avril Lavigne.

[Milesian]

Interesting pics, Ted

Those pics aren't great for classifying, however none of them with the possible exception of the girl in the first pic, looks Keltic Nordid.

[Allenson]

Yeah, I agree with Milesian here that the only somewhat distinct Keltic girl in this group is the first one in the black, leather pants.


Interesting pics, indeed.

[cruhmann]

Since the Keltic subrace is a mix of Nordic with Dinarics and other mixed, intermediate and dark types, it does not follow that they would always have pure blue eyes. Many have hazel and other mixed-colored eyes.
Just as their hair color ranges from blond to brunette, averaging medium brown.

[Ted]

OK, I think I'm getting the idea, but I still would like to SEE some examples of females who are pure Keltic Nordics, as well as good examples of what typical North Atlantids and Paleo-Atlantids look like. Now I don't mean the standard photos that are usually shown from the snipas(?) website, which show Liz Hurley as the typical Keltic Nordic and Sheryl Lynn Fenn as the standard for North Atlanticim. Let's see some examples never shown before, so I can get a better idea of the differences. I don't agree with the earlier poster about Avril Lavigne as being a good example of a Keltic Nordic. Her features look a little too fleshy for that category. I also think the guy who believes Jodey Foster is a text book Keltic Nordic is way off base too. She looks more like an Anglo-Saxon or a Halstatt Nordic to me. Am I wrong? Again, let's see some attachments of females who are great examples of Keltic Nordics, North Atlantids, and Paleo Atlantids. I'm getting the picture in my mind that the Keltic Nordics are finer boned, with lighter pigmentation and curlier hair than the North or Paleo Atlantids; am I correct? Thanks!