Why do you demand the coutry of origin for racial classification?
Q: Why many shitheads pretending to be anthropologists demand country of origin for racial classification?
A: It doesn't mean they CAN'T classify people without knowing their ethnicity, it means that they don't want to do it, as they have certain political agenda...
What the hell are you talking about?
Those concerned will understandOriginally posted by HELLSTAR
What the hell are you talking about?
Like HELLSTAR said, What the hell are you talking about?Originally posted by Ross
Those concerned will understand
I know what you talk about, though you could have said it outright. You are addressing the issue of those who are ethnocentric (e.g. NW European ethnocentric folks, those who claim to be "racialists" and just unbias in their classifications!) and are uncomfortable when they don't know the ethnical (or national) identity of the person in question. But the issue is that nationality (e.g. Italy and Germany are rather new national states from the middle of the 19th century), language and even culture don't always coincide with just one racial type. Though I don't deny that there are ethnical pockets that are important, and an example of such is Lombardy (Lombardia) in Northern Italy, which is mainly a Nordic-Karpatid (Dinaric + Alpine) region. The influx from the south to the industrialised north changed the folk stock after the 50's, but it's still very different from the south and even rest of Northern Italy.
I think no one was unfair in their classification of the Russian model Anna Chernobaeva. I asked for their opinion and they just answered with no fuss. Are you thinking why someone said
East-Baltic of that Russian military man? Well, I think it was obvious just by his high-rooted, straight and fairly projecting nose and square shaped face that he was a Balto-Nordic type, but I would like to see more pictures. What do you think?
Anyway, there's an unfair and childlish Eastern European (besides, they are not made of one type!) bashing (please stop with that, it's rather silly) going on from some folks who don't know the racial realities of Europe, perhaps they haven't travelled or they been brainwashed by propaganda.
People should say what they see, then they can afterwards ask the ethnicity or ancestry (if such information is available). It's all fine and out of curiosity to see if the classification may be correct by what they read about that particular region the person comes from. But to go the other way and ask for ethnicity before the classification and let's say the person is German (then they can for example be Nordic, Phalian, East-Baltic, Dinaric or Alpine) and try to fit the person is a wrong method.
Best regards...
We ask for the country of origin not to judge or any stupid crap like you state but rather because certain sub-races aren't present in some countries or are a very small minority, which makes the classification a little easier by eliminating the things that the person couldn't be.
I don't know NP88, it seems to me there are in fact quiet a few people here convinced of the fact that eastern Europe is just crawling with mongoloid half-breeds.
Very, very biased and very, very judgemental.
Aside from Arno - who I can cut some slack because he lives in Germany - the two worst offenders are you and NordischesBlutundEhre.
I'm not saying this to be a jerk. In fact, NordischesBlutundEhre and I talk often on AIM (turns out we were born in the same town and even went to the same elementary school, lol). But you guys can be pretty bad sometimes, geez.
Volksdeutsche is a sharp guy!
We are just proud of our Nordic race! Why shouldn't we be? I admit sometimes the pride turns into anger but you are being unfair- the Russians and Southern people are always provoking and starting useless arguements.Originally posted by Kalos
.... the two worst offenders are you and NordischesBlutundEhre.
I'm not saying this to be a jerk. In fact, NordischesBlutundEhre and I talk often on AIM (turns out we were born in the same town and even went to the same elementary school, lol). But you guys can be pretty bad sometimes, geez.
Volksdeutsche is a sharp guy!
<< We are just proud of our Nordic race! Why shouldn't we be? I admit sometimes the pride turns into anger but you are being unfair- the Russians and Southern people are always provoking and starting useless arguements. >>
Well of course you guys have every right to be proud of your race. But on multiple occasions it's seemed like you've written off 99% of Eastern Europe as if it were some kind of giant China town.
As for why the Russians and Southern people do what they do, I think the reasons are somewhat different for each group.
The Russians (ie: Ross, lol) are racially secure, and have the same sort of pride in their country and culture that you have for your (ancestral) country and culture.
Now it just so happens that historically your culture and their culture have pretty much hated each other, and it was out of your culture that much of the "racialist movement" developed. Therefore on this board, you are more likely to find a pro-German/anti-Slav, than a pro-Slav/anti-German.
Well Ross (and other Slavic people) come to this board, and that is exactly what they find. So naturally, being prideful about their heritage, they are going to speak out.
And thus these arguments begin.
With the Southern people, the reason is usually just insecurity. They doubt their "purity" and so attack yours. I guess maybe some of the Nordicists could work on being a little less mean-spirited and arrogant, and some of the Mediterraneans could work on coming to terms with their histories.
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