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    England is Genetically Largely Germanic

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5192634.stm

    Britain 'had apartheid society'

    An apartheid society existed in early Anglo-Saxon Britain, research suggests.
    Scientists believe a small population of migrants from Germany, Holland and Denmark established a segregated society when they arrived in England.

    The researchers think the incomers changed the local gene pool by using their economic advantage to out-breed the native population.

    The team tells a Royal Society journal that this may explain the abundance of Germanic genes in England today.

    There are a very high number of Germanic male-line ancestors in England's current population. Genetic research has revealed the country's gene pool contains between 50 and 100% Germanic Y-chromosomes.

    But this Anglo-Saxon genetic dominance has puzzled experts because some archaeological and historical evidence points to only a relatively small number of Anglo-Saxon migrants.

    Estimates range between 10,000 and 200,000 Anglo-Saxons migrating into England between 5th and 7th Century AD, compared with a native population of about two million.

    Ethnic divide

    To understand what might have happened all of those years ago, UK scientists used computer simulations to model the gene pool changes that would have occurred with the arrival of such small numbers of migrants.

    The team used historical evidence that suggested native Britons were at a substantial economic and social disadvantage compared to the Anglo-Saxon settlers.

    The researchers believe this may have led to a reproductive imbalance giving rise to an ethnic divide.

    Ancient texts, such as the laws of Ine, reveal that the life of an Anglo-Saxon was valued more than that of a native's.

    Dr Mark Thomas, an author on the research and an evolutionary biologist from University College London (UCL), said: "By testing a number of different combinations of ethnic intermarriage rates and the reproductive advantage of being Anglo-Saxon, we found that under a very wide range of different combinations of these factors we would get the genetic and linguistic patterns we see today.

    "The native Britons were genetically and culturally absorbed by the Anglo-Saxons over a period of as little as a few hundred years," Dr Thomas added.

    "An initially small invading Anglo-Saxon elite could have quickly established themselves by having more children who survived to adulthood, thanks to their military power and economic advantage.

    "We believe that they also prevented the native British genes getting into the Anglo-Saxon population by restricting intermarriage in a system of apartheid that left the country culturally and genetically Germanised.

    "This is exactly what we see today - a population of largely Germanic genetic origin, speaking a principally German language."



    The research is published in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B.

    Edit: The official report can be found here.
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    AW: England is genetically largely Germanic

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone

    There are a very high number of Germanic male-line ancestors in England's current population. Genetic research has revealed the country's gene pool contains between 50 and 100% Germanic Y-chromosomes.
    Which haplogroups exactly do they call "Germanic"? To my knowledge this can only be said about I1a and I1c.

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    Re: England is genetically largely Germanic

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone
    An apartheid society existed in early Anglo-Saxon Britain, research suggests.
    Scientists believe a small population of migrants from Germany, Holland and Denmark established a segregated society when they arrived in England.

    The researchers think the incomers changed the local gene pool by using their economic advantage to out-breed the native population.

    The team tells a Royal Society journal that this may explain the abundance of Germanic genes in England today.(...)

    The researchers believe this may have led to a reproductive imbalance giving rise to an ethnic divide.

    Ancient texts, such as the laws of Ine, reveal that the life of an Anglo-Saxon was valued more than that of a native's.
    Ine's Law is known since ages. We discussed it in my Old English classes.

    Well, only now we fully understand how much work the Jews had to do and still are doing to turn the Germanic peoples against each other and against themselves...

    And please, pay special attention to th crank judeo-liberal "social-science" wording: "apartheit society" etc. "abundance" (as if it were somehow too much?), and the non-Germanics of 1500 years ago were "native Britons", but the "native Britons" of today are never called so...

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    Re: England is genetically largely Germanic

    Ancient texts, such as the laws of Ine, reveal that the life of an Anglo-Saxon was valued more than that of a native's.
    The Frankish laws also valued a Gallo-Roman's life lower than a Frank or "barbarian". It was a general feature of ancient societies, that an outsider had less protection from the law than a member. But the Britons (like the Gallo-Romans) would most likely have had their own law, and Anglo-Saxon law probably applied to them only in situations which involved a member of the latter group.
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    Re: England is genetically largely Germanic

    In Britain the sleazier newspapers have it in for Germans yet the English are Saxon themselves. This odd situation is because the jewish media is deeply suspicious of the larger white society identifying as a race so they set us all at each other's throats with little snippets of anti English/antiGerman/anti-american bigotry of their own in their newspapers i.e. the english have got bad food/bad teeth, the germans reserve sunloungers, the americans should not travel, when in reality we are all relatively identical.

    The mass media form for us our image of the world and then tell us what to think about that image. Essentially everything we know-or think we
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    acquaintances used to come to us via our daily newspaper, our weekly news magazine, our radio, or our television.

    But now the media knows we are finding out about the world without having to go through them and they are starting to back off a little as this story shows.
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    Re: England is genetically largely Germanic

    Quote Originally Posted by Monkshood
    In Britain the sleazier newspapers have it in for Germans yet the English are Saxons themselves. This odd situation is because the jewish media is deeply suspicious of the larger white society identifying as a race so they set us all at each other's throats with little snippets of anti English/antiGerman/anti-american bigotry of their own in their newspapers i.e. the english have got bad food/bad teeth, the germans have no sense of humor, the americans should not travel, when in reality we are all relatively identical. But now the media knows we are finding out about the world without having to go through them and they are starting to back off as this story shows.
    The English do have worse teeth than the Americans (thanks to the NHS and sugary teas).

    The English are funnier than the Germans (I do not know why)

    The newspapers do not have it in for the Germans. It is just fun. The English respect Germans in many areas.

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    Re: England is genetically largely Germanic

    Actually, I am of the North-Sea Baltic Haplotype of the Y-chromosome R1b, and my male line is from Ireland, but England originally through my surname and DNA proving so.. My surname is Downer (person that lives at the bottom of the hill) in Old English.. Many, in fact most Anglo-Saxons were R1b3 (like me).. These Continental Celts intermixed with the Teutons, which formed this haplogroup.. Although I can say that there are alot of I haplogroup Anglo-Saxons..

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    Re: England is genetically largely Germanic

    Quote Originally Posted by havocthief
    The English do have worse teeth than the Americans (thanks to the NHS and sugary teas).

    The English are funnier than the Germans (I do not know why)

    The newspapers do not have it in for the Germans. It is just fun. The English respect Germans in many areas.
    I disagree but, So What? The fact is they drive a wedge because they are deeply suspicious of the greater white society identifying as a race. It's classic divide and conquer, it isn't light hearted, they've created laws banning whites from saying such things about non European immigrants like themselves, only whites can be prosecuted for having a preference for their own people, while all the time they build a wall around their own country and require genetic jewish descent to migrate there until recently. They've got us by the balls, apartheid EXISTS in Britain and it's purpose is to divide WHITES!
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