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    Kali Yuga - Are We There Yet?



    I watched this video recently, and found it interesting and worth sharing.

    Are we at the stage prior to a return to a Golden Age? I find it fascinating that so many none-Abrahamic (especially Indo-European) faiths see everything in cycles, with Golden Ages devolving into Dark Ages, then back to another Golden Age.

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    I don't know about Judaism and Islam, but in reality Christianity is as cyclical as indo-European faiths, it's just not a well known fact about Christianity. After the apocalypse and the Final Judgement the planet continues to exist, it's just the world as we know it which has come to an end. There will still be people around. They will live in a golden age spanning 1000 years, under Christ's supervision. Then that phase/project ends. Satan is unleashed from his chains once more and everything starts all over again. The Bible doesn't go into what happens after that though, that's a mystery. But it is obviously the start of a new cycle.
    "And how can man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods?" - Thomas Babington Macaulay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    I don't know about Judaism and Islam, but in reality Christianity is as cyclical as indo-European faiths, it's just not a well known fact about Christianity. After the apocalypse and the Final Judgement the planet continues to exist, it's just the world as we know it which has come to an end. There will still be people around. They will live in a golden age spanning 1000 years, under Christ's supervision. Then that phase/project ends. Satan is unleashed from his chains once more and everything starts all over again. The Bible doesn't go into what happens after that though, that's a mystery. But is obviously the start of a new cycle.
    I’ll be honest, this surprises me. I always saw it as a fixed end to Earth after the events of Revelations.

    Genuinely curious, what verses point to this cyclical nature?

    Thanks for the reply

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    Revelation 19 deals with the Second Coming and then Revelation 20 is about "the end of the cycle":

    20 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven. He had in his hand a key to the hole without a bottom. He also had a strong chain. 2 He took hold of the dragon, that old snake, who is the Devil, or Satan, and chained him for 1,000 years. 3 The angel threw the devil into the hole without a bottom. He shut it and locked him in it. He could not fool the nations anymore until the 1,000 years were completed. After this he must be free for awhile.

    4 Then I saw thrones. Those who were sitting there were given the power to judge. I saw the souls of those who had been killed because they told about Jesus and preached the Word of God. They had not worshiped the wild animal or his false god. They had not received his mark on their foreheads or hands. They lived again and were leaders along with Christ for 1,000 years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life again until the 1,000 years were finished. This is the first time many people are raised from the dead at the same time. 6 Those who are raised from the dead during this first time are happy and holy. The second death has no power over them. They will be religious leaders of God and of Christ. They will be leaders with Him for 1,000 years.
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    Don't forget that Kali Yuga is an Indian concept and was adopted by many "right-wing" eschatological thinkers such as Guénon and Evola. According to certain texts we've been in the Kali Yuga since 3,102 BC. So yeah, we've been there for quite some time. In 2018 it's a meme to describe Western decay. What's intriguing is that, as OP pointed out that many cultures and belief systems (mainly civilized cultures) agree with Man's fallen precondition and the eternal struggle to make life bearable on earth. Almost always does this lead to destruction of the "Golden Age" or devolution into lesser prosperous and wicked times. The Traditionalist school of thought is a good starting place to read up about civilizational cycles and how they're linked with spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mercian View Post
    Are we at the stage prior to a return to a Golden Age? I find it fascinating that so many none-Abrahamic (especially Indo-European) faiths see everything in cycles, with Golden Ages devolving into Dark Ages, then back to another Golden Age.
    We are at the end of the Kali Yuga and yes, it will be succeeded by a new Satya Yuga, but not after a cataclysmic catastrophe - to which we are clearly heading into. The end of each Yuga is marked by a global disaster that "resets" the planet before moving into the new one, with totally different characteristics.

    Since the end of Kali Yuga is also the end of the cycle of four Yugas, its final catastrophe is said to be much greater than the other three ones.

    The cycles are real. The Greeks called them Golden Age, Silver Age, Bronze Age and Iron Age (nothing to do with the archeological ronze and Iron Ages...) - so it's exactly the same thing.

    The Bible doesn't descibe the four Yugas, but it starts with the flood of Noah which was the catastrophe ending the last Dwapara-Yuga, or Bronze Age.

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    There is no Kali Yuga as the world is neither purely cyclical (Hinduism) nor linear (Christianity). Both roads, on their own, lead to fatalism and nihilism. Progress is perpetually going back and forth, ascending and descending. The "prophecies" merely demonstrate the inadequate means the ancient world utilized to convey their warnings and cautions. Instead of plainly stating things, they preferred to weave facts into myths and symbols.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    I don't know about Judaism and Islam, but in reality Christianity is as cyclical as indo-European faiths, it's just not a well known fact about Christianity. After the apocalypse and the Final Judgement the planet continues to exist, it's just the world as we know it which has come to an end. There will still be people around. They will live in a golden age spanning 1000 years, under Christ's supervision. Then that phase/project ends. Satan is unleashed from his chains once more and everything starts all over again. The Bible doesn't go into what happens after that though, that's a mystery. But it is obviously the start of a new cycle.
    In the past, I've committed extensive amount of time and research into Christian "prophecies". As early as the Pseudo-Methodius, these fellas place the emergence of the antichrist in a distant setting, providing no clarification for when he will emerge. Some say he'll be a bastard son, as the antithesis to the virgin. Others say he'll be spawned by a Jew and lead them astray. Jesus' anti-Semitism was something he worked out for himself (he was intimately familiar with how they thought and behaved), the Church's anti-Semitism amounts to nothing more than mimicry. The Church was remotely incapable of conceiving anti-Semitism outside of the NT texts. They rightly considered Jews as an enemy, but they didn't know why Jesus had taken up the fight with them. It's also obvious that the "prophecies" get updated over time. The war between West and East is one of the most reoccurring events in Christian "prophecy", but it was never made clear what represented the East until Russia emerged as an aggressor.

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