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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelfgar View Post
    Welfare for those who truly need it. A policy of white only settlement would result in approx. zero net migration. That's the first step to make, along with finding and expelling all illegal immigrants.
    Couldn’t agree more with this.

    It breaks my heart to see Brexit being diluted down by our elites. No consideration for their children’s future, just short term profits.

    Its our best chance to start reversing the mess that is multiculturalism.

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    I made a thread(Ecofascism / Nationalism and Ecology) about this subject a while ago, wondering why many, if not most, nationalists are so outspoken climate change deniers, even if they're otherwise environmentalists. And much better ones at that, than actual Greens or leftists, who don't or don't want to see, that a major driver of global environmental deterioration is environmental pollution in the second world/NICs as well as in the third world, where a population explosion is another or even bigger driver, as others have already said.

    That's even regardless of whether climate change is real or fake or not man made. Personally I find the data convincing but even if it weren't, we should focus right now on our core subjects of a short-to-midterm biological survival of our peoples and not on distractions that make us look ludicrous and simply aren't relevant right now. That also encompasses other things like flat or hollow earth, flat moon, Vril energy, reptilians, phantom time hypothesis and other such theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juthunge View Post
    That's even regardless of whether climate change is real or fake or not man made. Personally I find the data convincing but even if it weren't, we should focus right now on our core subjects of a short-to-midterm biological survival of our peoples and not on distractions that make us look ludicrous and simply aren't relevant right now. That also encompasses other things like flat or hollow earth, flat moon, Vril energy, reptilians, phantom time hypothesis and other such theories.
    The spread of those absurd theories is calculated to produce a rejection of all superphysical (not to be confused with the supernatural) matters, turning us all into Epicureans, pure physicalists. This contributes to the spread of uncertainty. Atheism/agnosticism is an antidote for credulity, not for how to live. A state founded on atheism can only maintain itself by continuously giving the world an enemy.

    Hitler, Blavatsky, and Julian have each claimed to have come across ideas without having ever read about them. Hoerbiger, Tesla, and Kepler were granted revelations upon meditating. Platon's maxim that knowledge is recollection is eternally valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juthunge View Post
    I made a thread(Ecofascism / Nationalism and Ecology) about this subject a while ago, wondering why many, if not most, nationalists are so outspoken climate change deniers, even if they're otherwise environmentalists. And much better ones at that, than actual Greens or leftists, who don't or don't want to see, that a major driver of global environmental deterioration is environmental pollution in the second world/NICs as well as in the third world, where a population explosion is another or even bigger driver, as others have already said.
    Imho, the studies lump together the rejection of the proposed "solutions" with the basic denial of climate change, although the sources themselves state what the problem for "nationalists & conservatives" actually is:

    "It's not a biological or gender thing," he said. "It's a political thing." Liberal white males are more accepting of government regulations and challenges to the status quo because it fits in their political ideology, he said.

    "When you start talking about climate change and the need for major changes, carbon taxes and lifestyle changes, [conservatives] see this as a threat to capitalism and future prosperity," said McCright. "So conservatives tend to be very negative towards climate change."
    What are carbon taxes actually doing to promote non-fuel based technology? Right, nothing, they only rob people of more taxes, and the certificates, too expensive for small businesses, help to destroy smaller economy in favour of big companies buying certificates from African countries.

    The same is true with the Diesel hysteria now. First we got roundup promotion of "clean" diesel cars for a decade (when badly cleaned raw oil should never have become a promotion point in the first place), then, when everyone got a diesel car, the idiots come up with driving prohibitions and inner cities blockades for diesel cars, when the real problem is something entirely different.

    One cruise ship burns as much diesel in one year as 21 mio diesel cars do in the same time.


    It's not even a "life style" question, for decades we were told we must be mobile and flexible and have jobs 30, 50 or even 100km from home, and then people are told that they cant make that way to their jobs with their cars anymore and should use the non-alternative of public transportation, extending their way to work by 1-2 hours per day, because public transportation is hacked to death and apart from routes between 2 big cities is often not even possible because there simply are no train connections.

    "Conservatives" and nationalists are more prone to question the nonsense that is presented to them as "solutions", while liberals/democrats/whatever leftists switch into govt (or big business) propaganda straight away and reiterate every nonsensical bullshit presented to them without ever thinking twice.

    That's even regardless of whether climate change is real or fake or not man made. Personally I find the data convincing but even if it weren't, we should focus right now on our core subjects of a short-to-midterm biological survival of our peoples and not on distractions that make us look ludicrous and simply aren't relevant right now. That also encompasses other things like flat or hollow earth, flat moon, Vril energy, reptilians, phantom time hypothesis and other such theories.
    Well, the free energy thing is certainly worth to look into. There are a lot of technologies that are being pushed aside by fuel-based big business and the lucrative business of war-for-oil.

    Or wind craft engines. They constantly complain that when there's strong wind that it overloads the cables, but they refuse to connect the engines first to "Umspannwerke", which are there precicely to level out high voltage pitches. Why isnt this done, I wonder? Or why are we discussing lines from the north sea to Bavaria, not only going over land (which we always used to avoid actually), but also going through 4(!) nature reservates on their way, but we do need them? Why? Wind in the Alps is much more reliable actually, more regular, than on the sea, Bavaria should build its own wind craft engines, and modern ones can supply small cities. This stuff is never being discussed, instead the "green proposals" always involve big environment destruction or go through the gardens of people, confiscating their land.

    Or on a more general level, we still get Einstein's nonsense shoved down our throats when even mainstream science meanwhile disproves most of it. But all physics applied in the real world or businesses must still comply with these largely wrong foundations of physical laws.

    Take Tesla for example. The Tesla coil is a very simple construction that makes a lot of fun to play with in shows, right? Install such a thing at gas energy plants and the harvest of usable energy would be multiplied immensely (we're speaking thousand-fold the energy outcome than input in fuel/gas!). Instead, still like 40% of the fuel is wasted totally, the heat is not harvested either, and it's still worse for coal plants. Tesla isnt even rocket science, every 10 year old understands the principle behind, but we install ineffective filters to reduce emmissions by 2% in exchange for a 20% increase in price for end consumers of "conventional" power plants.

    More "obscure" would be a new evaluation of basic physics from Victor Schauberger's models (working with natural physics instead of against physic forces like we do currently) or the Cold Magnetism researches done 100 years ago, but are now entirely gone from Einstein-dominated nonsense physics.

    I know you call it nonsense, but look at this for example:



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    What's this? Pretty much looks like light bulbs to me. If all the work and paintings inside pyramids had been made using oil lamps, which is what modern historians tell us was the only light source known to ancients, the rooms would be black from grime. But they are not, not even traces. So how did people work in "total darkness" for weeks and months carving pictures into the walls then?

    All I'm saying is that there's much more to discover than modern physics, "conventional" energy, combustion engine technology etc want us to know. All modern technology is based on the assumption that you can be lucky to get out 40, 50, max 60% harvest of energy than what was put in. If we want to go clean energy, there's no point in discussing to raise the harvest to 62%, we need to rethink physics completely new, specially electricity. Why is there no research on Tesla technology?

    Or water. It's fairly easy to harvest electricity with water driven mills/generators. Instead of thinking small and local and then every little river can be a viable source for entire small towns without destroying much or anything at all, all the ideas involve grand scale environment destruction, building power plants able to supply half of Germany with power and still need more energy put in through pumping water into giant water reservoires in mountains with coal/gas driven pumps.

    Of course such plans are being opposed by people, not wanting giant pumps noise polluting their direct environment day and night, their mountains destroyed and installing tech that, if something goes wrong, will wipe out their city located right under the reservoire with a giant tsunami. Plus that it is nonsense anyway and would again require thousands of kilometers of now "modern" again over-land lines going criss cross over people's heads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    So how did people work in "total darkness" for weeks and months carving pictures into the walls then?
    It is a possibility that the blocks were craved before being put in place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    [...] the free energy thing is certainly worth to look into. There are a lot of technologies that are being pushed aside by fuel-based big business and the lucrative business of war-for-oil. [...]

    [...] a new evaluation of basic physics from Victor Schauberger's models [...]
    I agree on these!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    So Nationalism is on the rise and they want to distract Nationalists from their primary focus, which is immigration.

    I don't see many of them falling for this
    I see climate change as an equally pressing if not more pressing concern because if the world continues along this trajectory life will cease to exist except for the simplest organisms. I have noticed myself in general discourse that 'right wingers' do tend to be more susceptible to denying climate change.

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