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    "Germanic" Is an Exonym

    As a term for the ethno-linguistic family, it is derived from a Latin name applied to the people by outsiders. While the same is true of "Celtic", at least the latter doesn't also happen to be very similar to the modern English term for a specific country. One can say "Celt", but if one said "German" the confusion only multiplies. An older word for the ethno-linguistic family, "Teutonic", is marginally better, but is still basically a term applied by outsiders, albeit, in this case, from a Latinised verson of a native word.

    Far better, in our opinion, is to choose a term that was once used by the people themselves as their name: Frisian. According to the Oera Linda Book, all the "Germanic" peoples were once Frisians (Fryas, in ancient Frisian).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    As a term for the ethno-linguistic family, it is derived from a Latin name applied to the people by outsiders.
    The term is derived from the old Germanic word 'ger' ('geirr' in Old Norse), which means 'spear'. The ancient Germanics were known for using spears as their main weapon in battle, hence they were basically called "spear men". There was also an ancient tribe of Germanics who called themselves "German", located around the southern border between France and Germany, I believe. And this is probably how the term ended up in the Latin language, through contact with the Romans, and made into a broader term to apply to all Germanics. Much like how the Alemannic tribes came to give their name to the Spanish and French term for all Germans.

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    Far better, in our opinion, is to choose a term that was once used by the people themselves as their name: Frisian. According to the Oera Linda Book, all the "Germanic" peoples were once Frisians (Fryas, in ancient Frisian).
    I find that notion very hard to believe. And that's not taking in consideration that 'Oera Linda' is widely seen as a hoax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    The term is derived from the old Germanic word 'ger' ('geirr' in Old Norse), which means 'spear'. The ancient Germanics were known for using spears as their main weapon in battle, hence they were basically called "spear men". There was also an ancient tribe of Germanics who called themselves "German", located around the southern border between France and Germany, I believe. And this is probably how the term ended up in the Latin language, through contact with the Romans, and made into a broader term to apply to all Germanics. Much like how the Alemannic tribes came to give their name to the Spanish and French term for all Germans.

    I find that notion very hard to believe. And that's not taking in consideration that 'Oera Linda' is widely seen as a hoax.
    It may indeed be true that "Germanic" is ultimately derived from a native word, or even a tribe, but it was never used by the people as a common name for themselves.

    The Oera Linda Book is dismissed as a hoax because it completely overturns the Judeo-Christian historical paradigm. It states very clearly that the "Germanic" peoples were all once Frisians.

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    On a purely practical level, the fact is that you're not going to be able to supplant a well-established term like 'Germanic' with something that few people recognise.

    It's far too late for that, but I do agree that 'Germanic' leads to some confusion and many English people think that it only applies to Germans (..there have been endless discussions about this on forums I've visited over the years!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    On a purely practical level, the fact is that you're not going to be able to supplant a well-established term like 'Germanic' with something that few people recognise.

    It's far too late for that, but I do agree that 'Germanic' leads to some confusion and many English people think that it only applies to Germans (..there have been endless discussions about this on forums I've visited over the years!)
    You may be right, but we can at least try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    You may be right, but we can at least try.
    What for? Are you that desperate to be disassociated with Germans?

    I worry about the Anglo-American world... so absolutely controlled by (((the Rothschild family))) and their minions for two centuries in England and one in America. If Brits and Americans had not been mind-controlled to see Germans as enemies, the world wars would never have happened as they did, to the detriment of us all. So many of our thoughts are misgiven...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    What for? Are you that desperate to be disassociated with Germans?

    I worry about the Anglo-American world... so absolutely controlled by (((the Rothschild family))) and their minions for two centuries in England and one in America. If Brits and Americans had not been mind-controlled to see Germans as enemies, the world wars would never have happened as they did, to the detriment of us all. So many of our thoughts are misgiven...
    Not at all, Germans are my kin. But I would rather use a term to describe that kinship that was actually used by our ancestors, and is not susceptible to misinterpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    Not at all, Germans are my kin. But I would rather use a term to describe that kinship that was actually used by our ancestors, and is not susceptible to misinterpretation.
    What should we call the Frisians then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    What should we call the Frisians then?
    Frisians. Note that the modern Frisian term for Frisians is Friezen, whereas the ancient term, as used in the Oera Linda Book, is Fryas, the ancestors of all the "Germanic" peoples.

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    I don't think this would be a major priority of mine at this point in our history, with possible extinction on the horizon.

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