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Thread: Do you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

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    Post Re: Are you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    Quote Originally Posted by Combatent
    Our independence is necessary as the same way as Croatia
    Jugoslavia was an invented State created after 1918, i agree that Croatia was a part of Asburgical Empire and so it's wideley different by Bosnia Erzegovna or Kossovo. They haven't much in common if not the language, maybe but nothing else. Neither religion nor ethnic origin.
    But Spain is different situation and i don't know if an indipendentist movement is a reality with an historical root or just an eco-political issue.
    Today some nationalities have right to be more free and self decided in the patterns of local interest. But not certainly witn an unique state, a state is a different issue and i don't know if majority of those populations want to be cutted away from mothercountry.
    For me is unuseful and antieuropean.

    If some has self determination but still is part of a bigger state with which it has a deep relationship since centuries i think is more fair.
    In Italy non of ethnic minorieties which the catalan separatism has pointed out to be "enslaved" has a minimum substance neither in historical nor in number for being "a State".
    A group of some thousands of person today is not able to build a state and a conseguent burocracy.If it does the resultation is weak.
    And we have to preserve Europe's culture and sociopolitical importance in a way which can gives good to all, not to some's unique wim.
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    Post Re: Are you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    and anyway..


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    I'm not sure why the Catalans, who are ethnically indistinct from Castilians--not even as removed as Portuguese, ought to dismember the body politic of Spain. It's a given that their recent attempt at secession would fail, but Basques could be one country of their own, if only Paris and Madrid agreed to it. If Belgium disbanded, it would be equitable to all but the Royals and the EU. Wallonie is French, just like Flanders is Dutch. There's no reason to force a marriage like this. If Spain and the EU were serious about helping the Muzzies set up shop, then they would reconstitute Granada out of Jihadist (or is that Yehudi? ) demands. Forget about installing Mohammedans everywhere in Europe; just put them back in Spain, France, Italy, Greece and the Balkans.

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