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    Post Do you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    Everybody knows the struggle of the Basque, Catalan and the Flemish people for their national freedom, as the same way like Scottish, Corsicans, Britons et alteri.

    By the way, the most important movements of the stateless nations in Western Europe are the fight of the Catalan, Basque and the Flemish people.

    Are you agree with the independence of these countries?. Explain why yes or not if you want.

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    Post Re: Are you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    I am against, but the best for Europa.

    Catalonia have a identity, their origin and more as the half of their history is common whith Spain, but sometimes there are folks whit a need to independence.

    I dont speak about Catalnonia, but the Basques could be independent.

    I think, that the "Nouvelle Droite", a identity movement in France, a land whit a very great jacobin tradition was against the idea of States and for the idea of nations and they spoke about the partition of France. -But the great identity movement in France - Le FN of Le Pen, is a total jacobine movement.

    In France, a periferic nationalism could be against the work and party of Le Pen.

    le "nouvelle Droite" say: We dont agree whith le Front Nacional but whe are not against it and we say that everyone must vote for Le Pen.

    In Spain, the nationalism of Catalonia (and the pseudo nationalism of Castilla, Andalucia, etc...) are a very bad think.

    I was in Castilla this sommer, i have seen the painst on the walls of the young people: the one wrote: "Castilla es Nación - Puta España" (Castilla is a nation, fuch Spain" and the other " Viva españa" and a celtic cross. That's the problem, the identity movements are in a constant fight and thas is the lost of every hope.

    This questions are no good. Are the perdition. Nobodi will be the winner, only the globalization.

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    Post Re: Are you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    Spanish now is a very wealth country...stop this grievances!!

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    Post Re: Are you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    Quote Originally Posted by Combatent
    Everybody knows the struggle of the Basque, Catalan and the Flemish people for their national freedom, as the same way like Scottish, Corsicans, Britons et alteri.

    By the way, the most important movements of the stateless nations in Western Europe are the fight of the Catalan, Basque and the Flemish people.

    Are you agree with the independence of these countries?. Explain why yes or not if you want.
    I agree with Catalan independence as long as you're not the president



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    Post Re: Are you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro
    I am against, but the best for Europa.

    Catalonia have a identity, their origin and more as the half of their history is common whith Spain, but sometimes there are folks whit a need to independence.

    I dont speak about Catalnonia, but the Basques could be independent.

    I think, that the "Nouvelle Droite", a identity movement in France, a land whit a very great jacobin tradition was against the idea of States and for the idea of nations and they spoke about the partition of France. -But the great identity movement in France - Le FN of Le Pen, is a total jacobine movement.

    In France, a periferic nationalism could be against the work and party of Le Pen.

    le "nouvelle Droite" say: We dont agree whith le Front Nacional but whe are not against it and we say that everyone must vote for Le Pen.

    In Spain, the nationalism of Catalonia (and the pseudo nationalism of Castilla, Andalucia, etc...) are a very bad think.

    I was in Castilla this sommer, i have seen the painst on the walls of the young people: the one wrote: "Castilla es Nación - Puta España" (Castilla is a nation, fuch Spain" and the other " Viva españa" and a celtic cross. That's the problem, the identity movements are in a constant fight and thas is the lost of every hope.

    This questions are no good. Are the perdition. Nobodi will be the winner, only the globalization.
    Why do you think the Catalan nationalism is bad?.

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    Post Re: Are you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vojvoda
    I agree with Catalan independence as long as you're not the president
    Thank's for your support

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    Post Re: Are you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    Yep.

    And I add, return Erdély aka Ardeal (they stole the land and the name) in România & Kárpátalja aka Закарпатська in Україна to the Magyars.

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    Post Re: Are you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    As a general rule, I'd say Balkanization is a bad idea.
    hail Arminius

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    Post Re: Are you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    I'm not against the independence of Catalonia, instead I'm against the 98,55% of people who are looking for it.

    You know why I'm saying it, not?
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    Post Re: Are you agree with a Catalan, Basque and a Flemish state?

    I voted 'no' because I hate Combatent
    Before meeting him, I was supportive of their independence.

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