Astrology

[SaxonPagan]

What do you think to astrology?

I certainly don't dismiss it. It may not be the most unerringly accurate science but I'm sure there's at least a scientific basis to it. As with many other disciplines, it's only as good as its practitioners and there probably aren't too many of these around nowadays, truth be told.

I wouldn't call myself an expert by any means but I've studied the principles involved and they make some kind of sense to me. I tend to focus mainly on my own zodiac sign (Aries) and I know that I have a lot of the characteristics associated with this.

[Astragoth]

Astrology is Biblical symbology.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/hedgero...nal-horoscope/

The next twelve articles will explain the biblical meaning behind each of the twelve signs of the Zodiac, their star groupings, and their part in telling the gospel story. The constellations are categorized into three groupings.Person, work and triumph of Jesus Christ:
Virgo: Seed of the Woman, Jesus Incarnate
Libra: Redeemer
Scorpio: Sufferer
Saggitarius: Conquerer
The Fruit of His Work and Mediation, the body of people spiritually born to Him through faith:
Capricorn: Sacrifice
Aquarius: The Pouring Out of the Holy Spirit & Living Water
Pisces: Fishers of Men and the Persecuted Church
Aries: Glorious Lamb
The final consummation of the Redeemer who is reunited with His Redeemed:
Taurus: Judge
Gemini: King
Cancer: Protector
Leo: Victor

[SaxonPagan]

[SaxonPagan]

Astrology is Biblical symbology.

Astra, I'm not quite sure what you're saying here but you do realise that astrology predates Christianity by several millennia, right?

[Astragoth]

What you refer to Christianity is when they finally started writing things down. "Christianity" is a modern term.

[SaxonPagan]

Regardless, Christianity cannot be older than Christ or that would be absurd, whereas astrology was already around 3-4 thousand years B.C.

[Schatzy]

I was taught at a very young age all about personality traits of the zodiak signs and have used it all my life to guide me in my relationships. I know exactly who I can get along with, who are my enemies, who I can trust, and who to stay away from. It has been very very helpful.

[Víðálfr]

This sounds interesting, Víðálfr ...



... could you possibly elaborate on this in the Astrology thread?

Yes. First of all, I've been reading astrology books since I was a child. They were more interesting than literature and I was abusively using them very often. I didn't go too deep into that, though. Nowadays I am more familiar with it and I use it for personal things and explanations for my own life. And it does make a lot of sense.

What can I say... many things found on internet, and also in many books, are very superficial. There is some science and also some spirituality beyond it, but nowadays I guess it takes some time to find a good book or a good practitioner on the topic.

Personally I know a good book on astrology, but it is in Romanian, not sure if it was ever translated into another language, but it would be useful to be translated into English, maybe. The author is Dan Ciupercă and its title is "Astrologia în Noua Eră". Actually it can be found here. It is a very good manual and it has many chapters on astrology, including medical astrology, or relational astrology, for example.

About what I wrote in the other thread, if you want me to elaborate, it's all about relational astrology and the above mentioned book is very useful for that. You just compare your natal chart to another person's natal chart and see what's there. There are two ways of doing that, as explained in that manual, I go for the more simple one, which is just comparing the two natal charts and see the interactions between planets, for example. There are some planets and astrological points in the charts that indicate karmic relationships, or soul mates, and other things like that which have to do with previous or future lives. I am amazed each time I feel a connection with someone and then check out our natal charts and see there clear indications that confirm what I was feeling about that person. Dan Ciupercă's book is really accurate on that, at least in my case.

For example, I met someone many years ago and there were very interesting facts about that. Before going to a festival, I was undecided if to go there or not, and I finally took the decision to go in the last moment. The night before I couldn't sleep well and I had a sort of vision of a guy. When I finally woke up I had the feeling that I had to go and meet that person. The way to the festival was long, meaning more than 12 hours by train, also a night spent on the train. But in the morning, when we had to change trains in a railway station, I just went to a group of guys about whom I was sure they were going to the same festival I was going. I asked them if they were going there, and then we introduced ourselves one to each other. When I was holding hands for the first time with that guy I felt like a thunderstrike, but I was too tired to pay attention to it. We were suddenly very attracted one to each other and we became very intimate very quickly. I mean it was something like love at first sight, but much more than that. We had lots of things in common and we also became very good friends. I felt like he was like a brother to me, and we were saying that we were like brother and sister. It was a very intense and deep relationship of friendship, and even beyond that. After some time I just remembered that vision I had and how events were in the beginning and I was freaked out a little bit. After many years I had this idea to compare our natal charts and guess what, according to the interpretations Dan Ciupercă gives to the astrological aspects, there was an aspect in our comparison between our natal charts that indicates that we possibly were in a relationship like siblings, brother and sister, in a previous lifetime. I was really amazed by that discovery and then I started to compare my natal chart with those of other people that played an important role in my life at one point or another. And it was and it is fantastic to see how accurately his interpretations fit with what I feel about some of my relationships. In many cases the interpretations from the book explained things to me.

Well, this is only about one chapter of astrology, but there are many more... Medical astrology, for example, can explain lots of things about someone's health. But I didn't go too much into it.

About relationships, what I found out from my own experience, and analyzing natal charts according to the above mentioned manual, is that the most important and meaningful encounters we have in our lifetimes have to do with karma and things remained unsolved in other lives... or are about common further spiritual evolution. It is all about spiritual evolution, in fact, this is why other books, which don't consider this, are very superficial, in my opinion. Some of the persons we meet give us lessons, from which some can be hurting. Some relationships are not meant to be forever, no matter how strong they were in the beginning.

With that guy, who was like a brother for me and whom I still love, everything just ended at some point. Now we don't even keep in touch. It was his decision, what can I say... some things are just like that.

Also... marriages... Parents and their children... These are almost always, if not always, karmic relationships, things to solve from previous lifetimes. In some cases things can go very wrong, especially in marriages, and here comes the difficult part of astrology. For some people it is better to break up, while for others not, but it's best to take the decision by themselves and not being influenced by the astrologer.

To sum up, for me astrology explains a lot of things. I think it is very useful to study it and try to go deeper, it can be really helpful in many cases, if you want a broader view on life and how things work. I also calculate my own solar return each year and use this book for interpretations, even though for that are many many websites which offer information, but I usually find information on internet to be very shallow and mostly for commercial purposes, so I try to be very careful with all information I get and to feel which is good and which is not. For this intuition is also important.

I'm a water sign, by the way, the sign of Krebs (in German), so intuition should work better and also intuition connecting to previous lives. That case I mentioned happened just once, but sometimes I had other intuitions about persons with whom I felt a strong connection or to whom I felt a strong attraction.

[Herr Rentz]

I never thought much of it, but my characteristics to seem to be those of Taurus. People familiar with the sign generally seem to agree. I can't argue that I'm a stubborn, exacting, precise, judging, SOB.

[SaxonPagan]

I never thought much of it, but my characteristics to seem to be those of Taurus.

It's surprising how many people say this, even the 'non-believers'

Víðálfr, that's a fascinating tale. I have one of my own, which is that of a Hindu man with whom I used to work and he was a real expert in astrology.

He didn't so much predict things but he could tell everyone about their lives with unerring accuracy, once you gave him the data (such as the exact time of your birth etc..)

Some of the stuff he knew could not possibly have been guesswork and he once showed me about 3 pages of mathematical calculations he'd done for one of the other blokes. I've had a keen interest ever since, but not at that kind of level