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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreidar
    Although that's a bit of a sad story, it also goes to show there's a way out of inceldom, even at an advanced age.
    Yes, but probably just in the nick of time. In five years from now his chances of achieving normiedom would diminish rapidly. It's more than a little sad though: he's a truecel, a genuinely heavy incel case, but not a nutter nor irrationally lashing out at the world. And that makes him likeable. I also posted it to contrast his testimony with that of the more lulzworthy, vengeful and perhaps trollish incels which outsiders usually equate incels with - I've always maintained that that was wrong - and that most incels are not like that, not like the guys who have dedicated their entire lives to posting on incel fora and who are active in incel chatrooms. And presenting incels that way as well as shaming and ridiculing them, and using them as cash cows on the internet (so their money is still transferred to women despite these men not being in a relationship and not having a chance of entering a relationship - which is a component of my disgust with virtual pseudo-prostitution), is nothing but another attack upon men and our nations by the feminist, leftist hate machine we call 'media'. On a different note: an angry but red pilled incel is in my eyes still preferable over the clueless guys who date feminists, which is nearly all guys who date today - it's they who keep feminism and a sick culture of female entitlement going, the culture which gave us Belle Delphine. "Shower me with money, for I am a woman on the internet." Angry incels don't facilitate feminism, guys who are part of the "pick up a feminist" movement do.

    The guy from the screenshot clearly has not solved his issue entirely though - the woman he courted left in the middle of making out and he doesn't fully understand what he did wrong - and we can't be sure what it is he did wrong because he doesn't know the answer himself and we weren't there spying on him. But if you use your imagination a little and envision the situation, you can come with up a scenario. I would think he wasn't assertive enough, but how can he be if this is his first time? He'll sure learn from what went wrong - the fact that he was at least able to make out with her shows that his biggest problems are probably behind him. If he was incurable I would think he'd never make it that far to begin with. It's likely at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreidar
    You can work on that, or just be flat out honest about being inexperienced, and she might be understanding and look past it.
    He's gonna have to massively compensate somehow or find a femcel or a unicorn or a not too bright, not too slim lady or a girl with a heart of gold and patience who can look passed his issue and is willing to work on him and invest in him - which is asking for a lot in the current year of the Tinder. His lack of experience as a 29 year old is a major turnoff for Beckys and Staceys, which is certainly the majority of women. It's not something he can broadcast while still hoping to attract a woman. Honesty is probably one of these things which tends to kill (potential) relationships.
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    Here's an example of a guy who was brainwashed by incel & MGTOW material. Apparently he broke up with his gf out of the blue (despite there being no problems in the relationship, & her being supportive and visiting in hospital, when he was at his worst), but regretted it later and admitted being brainwashed by MGTOW propaganda:

    The ban ironically was perhaps the greatest thing happened to me. Well, after I got banned, I had a very long talk with my big brother and mother on my fucked up beliefs about MGTOW, Christianity and so on. Well, they were right that I get easily brainwashed by others exactly like my dad. Yes, I was one of these people who believed that the world was going to end in 2012 back in 2008 which had greatly devastated me and so on. I thought about it for a really long time for me to realize that, and I was extremely appalled by it. My father, unlike my mother, isn't a good parent to begin with, and yes, he is extremely misogynistic and very gullible to a point that whenever someone tells him something he believes it without any forethought whatsoever. He's someone that I really despise in becoming and yet I am like him unconsciously. I guess it's based on genetics or something but that's no excuse for me not to change myself other than him. Yes, most of the MGTOW community have extreme hatred for women, and I had no negative experience with women at all. I have an excellent mother and a loving girlfriend who stood by me which is true for my brothers as well. After all of that, I felt great shame and anger at myself for being a extremely weak willed person for allowing others to dictate me what is right and wrong. Again, I began watching MGTOW content for the fuck of it till I began to believe that everything they said were true and so on. Most of the content they create are based on pseudo-science and intellectualism which is no different than those people that believed the world was gonna end at 2012. Now, some things that they have said maybe true in regards to divorce rates and the justice system in the western world that are really fucked up but the rest are simply based on hatred for more than half of the total human population and so on which is no different from feminism despite on the fact that they deny this. Unlike most of them, I don't have mommy issues and so on, and I had a great life despite the hurdles that me and my mother and brothers had with my father and so on. So the point that I'm trying to make here is that I'm truly am sorry for what I have said and done, and really, the ban made me self reflect my actions and behavior against those that I loved and so on. I had explained all of this to my girlfriend and we're back together again(I have apologized to her and so on), and I am very thankful for having such a loving mother that most of these cultists in the MGTOW community will never have. After all of that, I began sleeping a lot more better, and honestly, It feels really good for once to think for yourself rather than allowing yourself to be used like a sacrificial lamb. I was a fool but not a narcissist that is not capable of self reflection and improvement. Anyway, it's good to be back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nachtengels
    Here's an example of a guy who was brainwashed by incel & MGTOW material.
    It's red pill philosophy, not incel/MGTOW philosophy. The red pill holds just as much true for pick up artists as it is for the rest of the manosphere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nachtengel
    Apparently he broke up with his gf out of the blue (despite there being no problems in the relationship, & her being supportive and visiting in hospital.
    That's just idiotic of him. The message of MGTOW is not "break up with your girlfriend", least of all when things are fine. Even feminists don't say "break up with your man", not unless they're the most radical lesbian feminists out there. The problem lies with this character, whoever he is, not with the Red Pill. And you can tell he still has not learned anything, because he's now right back at the point where he started. Back to being a cuck.

    And isn't this whole post just trolling or pandering? "I am sorry for the women I hurt" is the title... and the poster is an Arab. And a not very bright Arab at that.
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    The INCEL Problem

    I watched part of a BBC documentary about INCELS the other evening. Here it is in full …


    The BBC was obviously doing some kind of a hit piece on them, it's maybe 50% fact and 50% propaganda, but there’s clearly a problem and now they’re being linked with the Dayton shootings.

    TBQH, I’ve never felt comfortable surrounded by INCELS, whether on this forum or elsewhere. It’s self-defeating on so many levels, not just splitting our own community down the middle but now also attracting the attention of the authorities, it would appear.

    How long before this becomes their main criterion when looking for potential “far-right terrorists”, or as justification for shutting down websites like this one as a “precautionary measure”?

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    Jeez, I thought almost everybody gets laid eventually...Have these virgin dickheads never heard of Tijuana?
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    I'll watch the rest of the video later, however it does make you wonder several things about Incels.

    How many of these mass shooters in the past have been Incel or even muslim terrorist looking for their 72 virgins or whatever when they become suicide bombers? The other question I have is more related to how these guys view women and is their a correlation to porn because they seem so frustrated to get something they never had.
    Life is like a fire hydrant- sometimes you help people put out their fires, but most of the time you just get peed on by every dog in the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    TBQH, I’ve never felt comfortable surrounded by INCELS, whether on this forum or elsewhere.
    I didn't know we had any self-professed incels around here.
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    The Incel problem to me is one example of a wider problem that has been plaguing the preservationist community for the last couple of years. The rise of the online 'alt-right' movement has made many people very optimistic and preservationists tried to go along with this wave, hoping it would finally lead to victory for preservationist ideas. In doing so, they have taken up a passive role, leaving the active role to the online alt-right movement. Now, the alt-right is a very broad category and there's a lot of good people and ideas to be found there. But it has always been tied to the 4chan, nerdy, nihilist types. Their agreement with some of the preservationist positions comes from resentment, personal failure and social isolation and not from ideological conviction. Although they're not the only people in the alt-right, quantitatively (and strategically, with all the meme stuff) they have been very dominant. The end result is that the wider preservationist movement is more and more taken over (either by merging or by copying by actual preservationists) by this kind of alt-rightism. 4chan type of communities are really not in tune with our goals. It's full of pedophiles, transsexuals, ISIS admirers, etc. This type of online culture has been around for quite a while and also in the past created school shooters, incels (perhaps not under that name) and so on. Since they have started to become 'right-wing', preservationists have thought that this was a good thing and started to collaborate. The end result is that we can no longer see the difference between preservationism and the kind of online community that creates school shooters, as if it were one and the same. Introverted and asocial nerds are not going to save us, on the contrary.

    I do think there are certain societal problems that give rise to something like incels. Of course it is true that a destruction of traditional role patterns leaves many confused and this is a problem that should definitely be adressed. I think that is also something preservationists have been doing for a long time, generally advocating more traditional lifestyles. But this problem should not be confused with the Incel community, that (even though adressing the same societal problem) is an offshoot of an online community that is not preservationist in its core, even though they might agree on some points with preservationists. If they take their personal incel problems as an incentive to come to us, that's fine. But we should definitely keep a distance from this bizarre community some of them created.

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    I didn't know we had any self-professed incels around here.
    I never mentioned ‘self-professed’ INCELS.

    Do you have any thoughts on the video by the way?

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