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    Quote Originally Posted by Nachtengel View Post
    No, it's not. Pregnancy is a much higher risk for women and that's not merely due to the pregnancy-related side effects and birth pains. The higher risk is the possibility of getting dumped by an irresponsible man and not only having to raise that child on your own for 18 years+ but also essentially being rendered undatable because which man wants to raise another man's child. Hence it makes perfect sense for women to be picky and reject the men they don't trust. And like others said, dating automatically comes with rejection. The point behind dating is to assert each other's suitability as a prospective partner. It's a trial. It doesn't have to lead anywhere, nobody owes you a relationship just because you went on a date.
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    Pregnancy is a much higher risk for women and that's not merely due to the pregnancy-related side effects and birth pains.
    A much higher risk than what? Than not being able to find a partner or having to settle for a crappy choice? No. Pregnancy is nothing in comparison. I would very happily carry the weight of a fetus for 9 months if that meant I got to breed with a top tier woman.

    The higher risk is the possibility of getting dumped by an irresponsible man

    Hence it makes perfect sense for women to be picky and reject the men they don't trust.
    Is that why women treat nice, nerdy and reliable guys like Robin Andblom like shit? If women wanted the most reliable men, they would go for the most unpolished, nerdy and fat guys, who are less likely to be attractive to other women while having plenty of genetic value and capacity to provide resources.

    Instead, we see the opposite: women want the men that they think other women want: celebrities, actors, millionaires, sport stars, thugs, muscle men.

    Then they complain when the man leaves them for another woman...

    essentially being rendered undatable because which man wants to raise another man's child
    To the man who is father to the child, you would not be undateable. Also, I am on some dating groups on social media and even single mothers get plenty of orbiters if they look decent. There are still plenty of single fathers around.

    And like others said, dating automatically comes with rejection.
    Not necessarily. If you were meeting compatible members of the opposite sex on a regular basis, and could read their hints, you could easily avoid most of the rejection. The problem is that the quality and proportion of single women out there is too low, which forces men to take big risks. Also, women don't give enough hints/make enough advances, because they have so many choices already, which causes guys to risk rejection anyway.

    The point behind dating is to assert each other's suitability as a prospective partner. It's a trial. It doesn't have to lead anywhere, nobody owes you a relationship just because you went on a date.
    Actually, considering how damn hard it is to even get a date, you would think so. But regardless, I think it is fair to say that it should take several dates to properly judge a person, plus that I have all the right in the world to complain if the criteria used by the women is seriously flawed. Examples of that are often not wanting children, wanting to travel to third world countries, and rejecting racial preservation.

    I repeat what I wrote above: our view as nationalists/racialists on what the future of Europe should be, will be what makes us stand out the most from other people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    Why would someone to whom nationalism is an important value date non-nationalists? Not only are they setting yourself up for rejection but even if they found a woman who overlooked the ideology, there could still be so many things that could go wrong. If the couple has children, she might be teaching them conflicting, anti-nationalist views. Plus non-nationalist women are more likely to embrace ideologies like feminism/childfree, liberalism and hedonism. It shouldn't surprise you that a woman who is against nationalism doesn't want to settle down.
    Because I have no other choice. Never in my entire life have I turned down a nationalist woman. Also, if I managed to "convert" a normie, I would both make nationalism gain adepts and get myself a high value partner. If a girl likes me enough to date me, that is already a good start, and a good indication about where her heart lies, after all.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: nationalists should date and marry other nationalists. And don't give me the excuse that there are no nationalist women growing on trees. To meet other nationalists, you obviously have to go to nationalist meetings and events. It's logical. If you wanted a partner who likes exercising, you'd go to the gym. If you wanted a partner who likes to read books, you'd go to a book club.
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    What events are you talking about? There have never been such events where I have lived. I once attended an SD demonstration (needed to travel for that), but it was basically all old people, most of them male. I'm too old for SDU and the local SD unit gatherings look like pensioner homes.

    Anything to the right of SD, for example NMR, is devoid of women and highly persecuted by the police, not to mention too small to have any presence where I would live anyway.

    More importantly: Why would these events be much different from fora where nationalist women are vastly outnumbered?

    Despite the odds, I managed to meet with a couple nationalist girls across the years (decades) online:
    *IRC: (NS) met her through a common friend. Obese. Stopped replying after a while.
    *Tinder: (Sweden Democrat) sort of overweight and she stood me up with a lame excuse, and she was already in her late 30s despite claiming to want children
    *OK cupid: (Alt right) 10/10 waifu in looks but ended up ghosting me. Was never serious at all, apparently. I was really sad after this happened, and I get ghosted daily, because this girl was saying all the right things about how she wanted to have a traditional family, etc. Maybe the whole thing was a parody or an experiment.

    So, if you ask me, these unicorns are pretty spoiled and not necessarily more reliable than a normie.

    That said, nationalist women are usually old fashioned and traditional. Some of them want to be housewives and stay at home mothers and ideally raise their children in a healthy, sustainable, natural environment like a house on the outskirts, a rural area or gated community, away from the multiracial slums and cultural decadence, ideally with a patch of land where they can grow their own food. For this they need a responsible, reliable husband. If she's going to be fulfilling traditional gender roles then she needs a man who will do the same. They're unlikely to dream of marrying someone on welfare or have children out of wedlock.
    In most cases, having a job or not doesn't depend on you. It depends on contacts, certifications, recruiters, the economy, etc. Very few people are truly lazy.

    Not least, the vast majority of jobs today involve working with nonwhites in one way or the other, even in Europe, so don't be surprised if nationalist men are not too enthusiastic about the idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    Nationalism in males is family values in females. Strike a deal somewhere down the middle and you have a match made in heaven.
    Most women who have traditional family values are religious. Many nationalist men, including me, are not. So a Middle Eastern belief is another possible point of disagreement. Remember also that the religious men will normally have more in common with these women, and they can meet at the church, religious groups etc. I have a brother who is religious and he met all of his girlfriends in this way. They ended up dumping him. But at least he got relationships despite looking nowhere near as good as I do.

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    Unlike some of the mouth breathers whining about not finding any women, I have my own standards. For instance, being a metalhead and into folk as well as neoclassical, I have preferred a female simply appreciative of the arts and not metalhead females. Why? I don't want to be with someone who smokes tobacco or pot, has tattoos and piercings, who dyes hair and wears goth make-up, who puts on studded bracelets and wears vinyl or pleather. Least of all, I wouldn't put up with any girl on my shoulders at a metal concert flashing the band, being groped in the moshpit, or a god-damned groupie.

    Hence, I'm with a wife who isn't primarily a creature of the extreme music scene, but a conventional so-called "band geek" with far better aesthetics of civilized normalcy and yet, we also share common views on Heathenry and race, with similar ancestry and we met randomly online when I wasn't even looking for anyone there, just passing the time between school and work. So, yes, just because there are those of the opposite sex out there who may be into the same subcultural trappings, doesn't make them compatible or any better than low quality males stereotyped by females as disreputable.

    For real, I had to leave the school library when 18 because some random goth girl sat on my lap without knowing her name (never knew for sure) or even asking my permission (lol, no), just because she had the hots for me and I was already engaged with my future wife since 16. Maybe I'm in the same camp as Thoreider and certainly not like Gegenschlag, although I can imagine some people from the reject table in the school cafeteria would fit the criteria (again, lol). Yes, I also turned down girls from the retard table, "flattering" though it was, but rather disturbed me. I also turned down popular girls who were untrustworthy. Seriously, why is anyone entertaining the borderline furfag and brony crowd crybabies?

    They should get a clue of how retarded it is to be obsessed with Magic cards and Pokemon when they're supposed to be learning how to drive and get a job, moving out and putting their supposed smarts to practical use. I moved on from video games and comic books because it wasn't really age appropriate or rather unsustainable for one actually making his own money for once and so my parents' budget changed to my own and that meant musical instruments, amplifiers and all sorts of stuff related to engaging academically and semi-professionally with my friends and co-workers out in the big wide world.

    As an adult responsible for myself and having worked since 14, when I see virgin retards in costumes outside Halloween and at gaming dens in town or places referred to online for all the "Cons", I get a visceral reaction to animosity in my spirit at the very existence of those losers. I can get a fanboyish argument about whether this or that hero or villain would win a fight, or what's quality fantasy and sci-fi, but I don't want anything to do with these scum who blame everyone else for failing at manhood and who expect sensitivity to pad every room for them over their undescended testicles. "Get A Life" was a funny sitcom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nachtengel View Post
    And women with nationalist or traditionalist tendencies aren't as super-rare as some people assume, however you might not find as many as men at gatherings and online communities because they might prefer traditional women's activities like homemaking, crafts, gardening, reading, etc.
    Okay, so they don't want to be found?

    Do nationalist men have to seek out knitting clubs and ask if anyone there just so happens to believe in the 14 words?

    If this is the case, it seems like there's one party who's making all this a lot more difficult than it needs to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nachtengel View Post
    Plus some of these nationalist gatherings have been hijacked by drunken skinheads and hooligans, which is not exactly a healthy medium for a single young woman to be in.
    The nationalist gatherings and events I've attended have been nothing of the sort, but quite intellectual and orderly, yet men still outnumber women around 10 to 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nachtengel View Post
    Not to mention all these misogynists like Anglin and thirsty incels who don't behave much better than those immigrants who sexually harass women.
    Anglin and incels are always brought up in this regard. But Anglin is only one guy, probably living in Asia somewhere, who just shitposts on the internet. And actual incels are likely too nervous and alienated to even think about moving themselves outside of the web. They are all non-actors in the real World, for all intents and purposes. But somehow, their existence is supposed to explain why women largely fail to be active in the movement or meet other nationalists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nachtengel View Post
    If you're wondering about the age, he's not some dreamy teenager, but a 31 y.o.
    That's really disgusting. If some 31-year-old man was going after my 14-year-old daughter, I would chase him away with a broom and my husband would probably do worse things to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nachtengel View Post
    According to incels, Stacies are a perfect 10 and vastly superior to Beckies, who are only a 6/10 and "basic bitches". Most incels will post pictures of Stacies when describing the type of woman they're attracted to or would like for a partner. Yet they act as though they're owed attention and sex from Beckies. Yes, many incels will say they hate Stacies, but this is because of the sour grapes theory. They hate what they can't have.
    Perfect women deserve perfect men. No shy, fat, ugly incel has the right to have a "Stacy". It would be a waste of her superior genes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Even more so, women are not even seriously considering an online relationship, unless you happen to live close to them. And why should they? All they need to do is walk around the block and choose a guy.
    That's not true, I met my husband online in a nationalist forum. However, we met personally shortly after and we are together till this day. We were living about 250 kilometers apart, when we met.

    Quote Originally Posted by leRoux View Post
    Brilliant picture. This shows jewish nature just like it is, on point. It is a Germanic tradition to truly live the Volksgemeinschaft and to take care of each other and have a healthy view on gender relationships and NOT to fall for jewish destructive ideologies that set men against women and women against men and children against their parents and adults against having children at all, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gefjon View Post
    Social awkwardness is unattractive in the dating game. There's dudes and chicks I know with double masters degrees and high paying jobs who don't get lucky when it comes to dating precisely cause of their social awkwardness. Social interaction is what oils relationships. For example, many chicks like it when a guy makes them laugh.
    Exactly. Funniness is also associated with high testosterone. My husband is a funny guy, he often makes good jokes, imitates other people and sometimes I could just laugh my ass off about him. He also teases me sometimes (but still in a kind of loving way) and often even that makes me laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Most women don't care if you are intelligent. Being intelligent is actually a negative in dating, as it makes you less likely to be neurotypical.
    That's not true. No woman wants to be with a really dumb guy, unless she's really dumb and trashy herself. Okay, too much intelligence like an IQ over 150 might eventually be a turn-off, because that often comes along with a really nerdy and unsexy personality. But in general, an IQ between 120-130 is great for guys and I would never have seen a man as a potential husband, if he had had less than a three-digit-IQ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    If that's the case, why did he end up with an aged French autist and not with a 20 y/o Norwegian virgin?
    Aged?! Marie Cachet was born in 1988, so she's 31-32, but she already has 6 children with him. She had her first child with him in 2007, when she was 19. Even younger than 20, you see?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gefjon View Post
    Judging by the pics I've found of this dude & video that Žoreišar posted, the dude looks like a soy boy.



    He could take that earring out, change the hairstyle & go to the gym, put on some muscle. He's got a bit of a chubby chin which makes his face look feminine or baby-ish. And yep, he sounds like a grown kid, the kind that lives in his momma's basement & plays videogames all day. Not exactly a slayer, if ya know what I mean Plus judging by the message he posted, it seems like the guy is poor at understanding social cues. Like I said before, if ya don't understand essential social cues, you're gonna be losing in the dating game.

    Anyways, if Swedish chicks don't dig such dudes, but dig immigrants instead, ya gotta ask yourself why is that. Maybe it's cause Swedish men have also become brainwashed by the "gender equality" crap and play this emasculated/metrosexual/gay/soyboy/snowflake part. While sure, lots of chicks claim to be feminist these days since that's the trend, let's be honest here: most women haven't lost their primary, natural instincts. That means they're still innately attracted to features like masculinity. Chicks like "cavemen". Sure, they also want those cavemen to be nice and woo them with flowers & candy, provide for their family & such, but they also need to know that if push comes to shove and for example another cavemen tries to assert himself, their caveman will mop the floor with that other dude.
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    He comes across as a bit of a soy boy. He sounds like an 11-year old, and has no charisma. Doesn't matter if you follow all the right "rules" if you are completely devoid of masculinity. A year in the military and getting into a street fight would probably do him good.
    Absolutely correct. This guy looks just repulsive. Totally gay, feminine and unmanly and he has no masculinity at all. I adore masculinity and I could never be with a man who looked like this feminine, chubby soyboy. That would be just disgusting.

    As I said, I met my husband online almost 10 years ago. After a month or so, we met personally for the first time and spent a day together in Berlin. We walked around, ate ice cream and talked about everything and laughed. It was great. In the afternoon, we walked by a group of dirty, pink- and green-haired punks who were sitting on the street with their dogs and begging for money. Two of them came straight up to me and asked if I had money for them. I replied that if they want money they need to go to work. This answer made them instantly angry and they shouted insults at me. My later-husband didn't hesitate long and went towards them and gave both of them a good beating. He didn't hurt them in a life-threatening way, of course, but gave both of them a few good punches and didn't care about the many people walking by (this was in the middle of Berlin).

    Now this may sound primitive or archaic or something, but I can't deny that this experience was a bit of a major turn-on for me. And I wasn't even his girlfriend yet back then, we had just met for the first time personally. About half-an-hour later, we walked back that street and encountered them again but they looked away and didn't talk to us again, although they saw us.

    My husband has a friend who lives in Austria. And that guy has had a similar experience, even more dangerous. He was at a train station in Vienna and there was a young Austrian girl not known to him, who was threatened by three arabs. He went to them and defended the girl successfully against them and beat all three of them, until they ran away. As I said, this girl was not known to him before, but they became a couple soon after.

    I hope you don't misunderstand this. I'm certainly not recommending to the single men here "just beat up some idiots or criminals before your girl's eyes to win her heart" but I would say that you should work on your appearance and fitness, so you at least make the visual impression that you COULD defend her in a street fight, if it was necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    You mean truly unconditional? That you get to be as lousy as humanly possible and she would still not leave you? That just reeks of entitlement. Marriage comes with a load of responsibilities and dues, and isn't an excuse to rest on the laurels. Why would you even want a partner to feel obliged to stay by your side if you have nothing of value to offer and only drag them down? That doesn't speak to reciprocal love.
    I agree 100%. Unconditional love doesn't exist between men and women.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    2 hours physical exercise is overkill. Add to that how tired you get + the energy wasted + time to get there + washing afterwards. It's just unaffordable for a lot of people.
    There is no excuse to be fat, even if you don't exercise 2 hours per day (which I still don't consider "overkill", by the way). Humans are evolved to do light housework all day long. Such things like doing the laundry, gardening, vacuum-cleaning, tidying up rooms, picking berries, walking around, feeding the chickens, etc.. Or for men, things like plowing the fields, building stables and houses, repairing things, etc.. THIS is what we are supposed to do all day (with just some small breaks to sit down, mostly in order to eat something).

    Sitting on one's ass all day is highly unnatural and unhealthy and it's a modern phenomenon. So if you don't want to exercise, then at least do light physical work all day and keep being on your feet and moving, as it's intended for our species.

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    That's not true. No woman wants to be with a really dumb guy, unless she's really dumb and trashy herself. Okay, too much intelligence like an IQ over 150 might eventually be a turn-off, because that often comes along with a really nerdy and unsexy personality. But in general, an IQ between 120-130 is great for guys and I would never have seen a man as a potential husband, if he had had less than a three-digit-IQ.
    Thanks for admitting that women don't like very intelligent men. There is no such thing as an "unsexy personality" btw. It's just excuses women come up with against unpopular guys.

    As I said, I met my husband online almost 10 years ago. After a month or so, we met personally for the first time and spent a day together in Berlin. We walked around, ate ice cream and talked about everything and laughed. It was great. In the afternoon, we walked by a group of dirty, pink- and green-haired punks who were sitting on the street with their dogs and begging for money. Two of them came straight up to me and asked if I had money for them. I replied that if they want money they need to go to work. This answer made them instantly angry and they shouted insults at me. My later-husband didn't hesitate long and went towards them and gave both of them a good beating. He didn't hurt them in a life-threatening way, of course, but gave both of them a few good punches and didn't care about the many people walking by (this was in the middle of Berlin).
    Nice to read what dating nationalists looks like from a female perspective. Read above what dating nationalists online looks like from a male perspective. Also, the burden is on you: if there are so many women available online, why are there none/almost none here while there are plenty of single guys? Looking at this thread alone, we probably have something like 10 single men or so for every single woman.

    Finally, 250km is very close for this day and age. lol

    Now this may sound primitive or archaic or something, but I can't deny that this experience was a bit of a major turn-on for me. And I wasn't even his girlfriend yet back then, we had just met for the first time personally. About half-an-hour later, we walked back that street and encountered them again but they looked away and didn't talk to us again, although they saw us.

    My husband has a friend who lives in Austria. And that guy has had a similar experience, even more dangerous. He was at a train station in Vienna and there was a young Austrian girl not known to him, who was threatened by three arabs. He went to them and defended the girl successfully against them and beat all three of them, until they ran away. As I said, this girl was not known to him before, but they became a couple soon after.

    I hope you don't misunderstand this. I'm certainly not recommending to the single men here "just beat up some idiots or criminals before your girl's eyes to win her heart" but I would say that you should work on your appearance and fitness, so you at least make the visual impression that you COULD defend her in a street fight, if it was necessary.
    Low IQ behavior. Telling people to go to work for a corrupt system is also stupid. Like I explained in my previous post: not having employment is seldom the fault of an individual person. It's mostly about how a person functions in a particular society and how well connected he is. In der Gülle schwimmt die grösste Scheisse immer oben.


    There is no excuse to be fat, even if you don't exercise 2 hours per day (which I still don't consider "overkill", by the way). Humans are evolved to do light housework all day long. Such things like doing the laundry, gardening, vacuum-cleaning, tidying up rooms, picking berries, walking around, feeding the chickens, etc.. Or for men, things like plowing the fields, building stables and houses, repairing things, etc.. THIS is what we are supposed to do all day (with just some small breaks to sit down, mostly in order to eat something).

    Sitting on one's ass all day is highly unnatural and unhealthy and it's a modern phenomenon. So if you don't want to exercise, then at least do light physical work all day and keep being on your feet and moving, as it's intended for our species.
    How many young people nowadays own fields, stables and even houses? Very few. At the same time, we see an increasing shift to automation and an informatized culture where it is important to acquire knowledge to become even remotely competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Thanks for admitting that women don't like very intelligent men. There is no such thing as an "unsexy personality" btw. It's just excuses women come up with against unpopular guys.
    I didn't say that I don't like very intelligent men as such - only if it goes along with a nerdy, unsexy character, which these types often have. If a very intelligent 160 IQ guy isn't like that and is nevertheless a funny, cool, tough and good-looking guy, then everything's fine. Of course, there is such a thing as an unsexy personality - if a man is shy, nerdy, socially awkward, has no self-confidence, has no sense of humor, is always miserable and/or understands no fun, then that's a very unsexy personality.

    By the way, what do you mean by saying "unpopular guys"? My husband had been a virgin when I had met him and I'm the only woman he has ever been with. I guess that makes him unpopular among all women except me. So he may have been "unpopular", but he didn't have an unsexy personality - on the absolute contrary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Low IQ behavior. Telling people to go to work for a corrupt system is also stupid. Like I explained in my previous post: not having employment is seldom the fault of an individual person. It's mostly about how a person functions in a particular society and how well connected he is. In der Gülle schwimmt die grösste Scheisse immer oben.
    I'll tell you what low IQ behavior is: Not washing yourself anymore, dyeing your hair green, wearing ugly, stinky and torn clothes, sitting on the street with your dog and pestering people by urging them to give money. That's what low IQ behavior is. It's not about not having a job. Even unemployed people don't need to lower themselves like that. That was their choice. If my husband lost his job tomorrow, I would NOT divorce him, of course! It's not being unemployed that makes somebody unattractive. There's much more to it. So don't tell me, it was "low IQ behavior" to punch these idiots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    How many young people nowadays own fields, stables and even houses? Very few. At the same time, we see an increasing shift to automation and an informatized culture where it is important to acquire knowledge to become even remotely competitive.
    We own a house and a big garden in a rural area and there's always something to do there. Yeah, you're right, my husband is a software developer and writes codes for apps and other stuff on his computer. That's a good occupation for nowadays and he has a good normal middle-class income which is enough for us all to live. But even such a job isn't an excuse to be fat or unfit. He exercises and lifts weights every day, that's why he looks like a Greek god and he works around the house often, just as I do. By the way, if you are unemployed, you should have much time to exercise or to do sport. Where's the problem? What do you do all day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Low IQ behavior.
    More like high-T behavior. Have you checked your levels? It's only low IQ if you get yourself into stupid situations and end up in jail or the hospital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Angel View Post
    I didn't say that I don't like very intelligent men as such - only if it goes along with a nerdy, unsexy character, which these types often have. If a very intelligent 160 IQ guy isn't like that and is nevertheless a funny, cool, tough and good-looking guy, then everything's fine. Of course, there is such a thing as an unsexy personality - if a man is shy, nerdy, socially awkward, has no self-confidence, has no sense of humor, is always miserable and/or understands no fun, then that's a very unsexy personality.
    Or it's simply indicative that a high value, high IQ person has no time to squander on such gibberish. Likewise, humor that is not cheap or obvious is not so easy to come up with or produce. Taken to the extreme, better an absolute genius than an absolute comedian.

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    By the way, what do you mean by saying "unpopular guys"? My husband had been a virgin when I had met him and I'm the only woman he has ever been with. I guess that makes him unpopular among all women except me. So he may have been "unpopular", but he didn't have an unsexy personality - on the absolute contrary.
    Guys that most women don't like, like those that get labelled nerdy, weird, etc, after a poor scrutiny based on wrong criteria.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Angel View Post
    I'll tell you what low IQ behavior is: Not washing yourself anymore, dyeing your hair green, wearing ugly, stinky and torn clothes, sitting on the street with your dog and pestering people by urging them to give money. That's what low IQ behavior is. It's not about not having a job. Even unemployed people don't need to lower themselves like that. That was their choice. If my husband lost his job tomorrow, I would NOT divorce him, of course! It's not being unemployed that makes somebody unattractive. There's much more to it. So don't tell me, it was "low IQ behavior" to punch these idiots.
    Or... they were just born with bad genetics and then were brainwashed by the system. Besides, you told them to get a job. If you objected to their style choices, you could have used different words. Telling somebody who can't get a job to find one is offensive.


    Where's the problem? What do you do all day?
    I have a lot of projects, theories, abstract examining/analyzing of possibilities. A lot of it is frustrated by the multiculturalization of Europe. Some of it was recently brought to a halt by the corona madness. I need to think all day. It feels like such a waste to work out and tire me out with it. To work out bores me to death. I'm not fat though, mostly due to a careful selecting of foods.

    Honestly, I also don't think working out would make much of a difference. I don't have much problem with attracting women physically. The issue is more finding young women who are single and have the right values/intellectual quality. My feeling is that it's mostly up to them, and from doing 75% of what is needed to 95%, it would steal too much time from my life that I need to get my finances going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    More like high-T behavior. Have you checked your levels? It's only low IQ if you get yourself into stupid situations and end up in jail or the hospital.
    Getting into fights with strangers on the streets who didn't attack you is just low IQ. It could have ended up with him or her getting injured, killed or arrested. Rationally, it could only made sense if it was done as a calculated risk to impress the woman, but then a woman shouldn't be impressed by such behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Getting into fights with strangers on the streets who didn't attack you is just low IQ. It could have ended up with him or her getting injured, killed or arrested. Rationally, it could only made sense if it was done as a calculated risk to impress the woman, but then a woman shouldn't be impressed by such behavior.
    Well, neither of us was there, so it's hard to say what was a reasonable response. If you've ever been in a street fight, you'd know that there's only a split second separating people throwing insults, to people throwing fists. Body language and tone might be the only thing you have to go by.

    I think 'rationality' is the key-word here. You're too hung up on it. Women (nor men for that matter) aren't bipedal computers who function in accordance to perfect mathematical models. A rational mindset is a good property to have, but only when it's tempered by passion. And vice versa. In the situation Nordic Angel described, the passionate act was for her man to stand up for her, and the rational act was to not put anyone in jail or hospital. I can't speak for N.A., but I would assume it would be a major turn-off if he was a completely violent psychopath, and the punks ended up handicapped for life.

    And who are you to say what women should and shouldn't be turned on by? If women's nature don't match your wants and expectations, wouldn't it be better to just turn gay or become a monk? You're not going to change female nature just because you want it to be different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Or it's simply indicative that a high value, high IQ person has no time to squander on such gibberish.
    Okay, no problem, it's their choice, but they shouldn't complain about getting no woman then. You reap what you sow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Likewise, humor that is not cheap or obvious is not so easy to come up with or produce. Taken to the extreme, better an absolute genius than an absolute comedian.
    Why not a healthy middle way between the two? You're right, it's not so easy to come up with really cool humor, so it obviously requires intelligence to be really funny, you see?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Guys that most women don't like, like those that get labelled nerdy, weird, etc, after a poor scrutiny based on wrong criteria.
    Sexuality is one of the most powerful instincts in human beings, this is just the way it is and you can't change that. You can't expect from women to sleep with guys whom they find totally unsexy and/or downright repulsive. What women find attractive has evolved over millions of years of evolution. It's foolish to think you could change this in the blink of an eye.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Or... they were just born with bad genetics and then were brainwashed by the system. Besides, you told them to get a job. If you objected to their style choices, you could have used different words. Telling somebody who can't get a job to find one is offensive.
    Their style choices are the reason why they can't find a job, so that's not offensive. And I don't care whether it's offensive to them or not, as I don't care about the feelings of obvious human trash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    I have a lot of projects, theories, abstract examining/analyzing of possibilities. A lot of it is frustrated by the multiculturalization of Europe. Some of it was recently brought to a halt by the corona madness. I need to think all day. It feels like such a waste to work out and tire me out with it. To work out bores me to death. I'm not fat though, mostly due to a careful selecting of foods.
    What projects? Did something useful come out of them? Have you reached some goals in your life, some success?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Honestly, I also don't think working out would make much of a difference. I don't have much problem with attracting women physically.
    So is it more your attitude and character that these women don't like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    The issue is more finding young women who are single and have the right values/intellectual quality.
    What are "right values" in your opinion? Being attracted to nerdy, boring, unathletic, unfunny guys with a 180 IQ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Getting into fights with strangers on the streets who didn't attack you is just low IQ.
    They did attack me, they shouted at and insulted me. This is reason enough to give them a good beating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    It could have ended up with him or her getting injured, killed or arrested.
    No risk, no fun. Of course, the risk shouldn't be too high, that would be foolish and indeed low IQ - he wouldn't have done that alone against 10 arabs or something. That should be clear. But two lazy punks should be easy for a young, trained, fit man to deal with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gegenschlag View Post
    Rationally, it could only made sense if it was done as a calculated risk to impress the woman, but then a woman shouldn't be impressed by such behavior.
    But I am. So what? It's nature and evolution. It's deeply ingrained in my DNA. Life is no picnic. You can't change human nature (or female nature for that matter) and instincts that have evolved over millions of years.

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