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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    No man in his right mind is going to commit to a marriage nowadays. Its just going to cost you half your income at the minimum.
    One thing men have started to notice is the only place to get a woman you can marry is to go to church.
    They'll make you sit there for six months to a year before you can even talk to the women though.
    With this kind of attitude you never will get married or like the idea of marriage or find a mate and that is anti-preservationist. I have been married and divorced, married again and divorced again and I still like the basic idea of marriage which is just really a partnership where two people of the opposite sex agree to be there for each other.

    Personally I would like to end this battle of the sexes, women and men are just folk women have their own personalities good and bad just like men. By continuing the battle of the sexes you are playing into the hands of the very feminist that you oppose. Yes, its true men and women have different roles and behavior patterns that are natural, but you still have to look at women as part of the folk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gefjon
    which he calls his "man cave" lol
    I have always hated this term and it sounds gay in itself. A man does not need a designated area to be a man in, he should act like a man at all times and all places. If you have to have a "man cave" you are a cuck in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    With this kind of attitude you never will get married or like the idea of marriage or find a mate and that is anti-preservationist. I have been married and divorced, married again and divorced again and I still like the basic idea of marriage which is just really a partnership where two people of the opposite sex agree to be there for each other.

    Personally I would like to end this battle of the sexes, women and men are just folk women have their own personalities good and bad just like men. By continuing the battle of the sexes you are playing into the hands of the very feminist that you oppose. Yes, its true men and women have different roles and behavior patterns that are natural, but you still have to look at women as part of the folk.



    I have always hated this term and it sounds gay in itself. A man does not need a designated area to be a man in, he should act like a man at all times and all places. If you have to have a "man cave" you are a cuck in the first place.
    I'd like to see the battle of the sexes end too but its not going to happen until women reject feminism in all its forms. I simply don't see that one happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gefjon View Post
    P.S. Chicks have always controlled sexuality in some way. Even in patriarchal societies, where dudes make the first step, chicks send cues to the dude they like, hinting him to court them.
    You have to admit that the level of female control over their sexuality has shifted dramatically. Not even 60 years ago, If women were sleeping with several men different men out of wedlock, she would be shunned by her family and community. In the time of my grandparents, a woman would be frozen out and forced to move to a different part of the country if she got pregnant and her partner refused to marry her. And considering this was prior to the invention of paternity tests, if she was known to have been sleeping around, that was probably a wise move by the man involved.

    Compare that to today's situation, where women are allowed to sleep with as many men they like, with no social repercussions what so ever. And if a male partner is repulsed by her sexual history, it's considered a sign of weakness, insecurity and fragility on his part. A comparable culture of female sexuality has never been known to exist in previous times, not among Europeans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gefjon View Post
    The reason polygamy wasn't allowed were prudish Christian/Abrahamic morals.Has nothing to do with women "whoring around", since polygamy would be a family and have the same rules as any other family. Besides, monogamy wasn't realistically enforced, it was for many folks just a facade they kept, since at some point in time, either one or both partners had an extramarital relationship. Most kings had countless mistresses for example, which can't really be called monogamy lol.
    From 'Germania' by Tacitus:

    Their marriage code, however, is strict, and no feature of their morality deserves higher praise. They are almost unique among barbarians in being content with one wife apiece - all of them, that is, except a very few who take more than one wife not to satisfy their desires but because their exalted rank brings them many pressing offers of matrimonial alliances. The dowry is brought by husband to wife, not by wife to husband. Parents and kinsmen attend and approve the gifts - not gifts chosen to please a woman's fancy or gaily deck a young bride, but oxen, a horse with its bridle, or a shield, spear, and sword. In consideration of such gifts a man gets his wife, and she in her turn brings a present of arms to her husband. This interchange of gifts typifies for them the most sacred bond of union, sanctified by mystic rites under the favour of the presiding deities of wedlock. The woman must not think that she is excluded from aspirations to manly virtues or exempt from the hazards of warfare. That is why she is reminded, in the very ceremonies which bless her marriage at its outset, that she enters her husband's home to be the partner of his toils and perils, that both in peace and in war she is to share his sufferings and adventures. That is the meaning of the team of oxen, the horse ready for its rider, and the gift of arms. On these terms she must live her life and bear her children. She is receiving something that she must hand over intact and undepreciated to her children, something for her sons' wives to receive in their turn and pass on to her grandchildren.


    By such means is the virtue of their women protected, and they live uncorrupted by the temptations of public shows or the excitements of banquets. Clandestine loveletters are unknown to men and women alike. Adultery is extremely rare, considering the size of the population. A guilty wife is summarily punished by her husband. He cuts off her hair, strips her naked, and in the presence of kinsmen turns her out of his house and flogs her all through the village. They have in tact no mercy on a wife who prostitutes her chastity. Neither beauty, youth, nor wealth can find her another husband. No one in Germany finds vice amusing, or calls it 'up-to-date' to seduce and be seduced. Even better is the practice of those states in which only virgins may marry, so that a woman who has once been a bride has finished with all such hopes and aspirations. She takes one husband, just as she has one body and one life. Her thoughts must not stray beyond him or her desires survive him. And even that husband she must love not for himself, but as an embodiment of the married state. To restrict the number of children, or to kill any of those born after the heir, is considered wicked. Good morality is more effective in Germany than good laws are elsewhere.
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    A 'man cave' sounds as though you have to ask permission in your own house to have or do something someone else doesn't agree with. Fuck that. My mortgage, my house, and I'll do with it as I please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schatzy View Post
    Women who have one night stands, almost always grieve when they realize that the man is not coming back and feels cheated that she was told all these lovely things, when it was only to get her into bed.
    I believe you are painting an overly sanctimonious picture of modern young women.
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    According to the Völuspį, as Ragnarök approaches ...

    Brothers will fight and kill each other, sisters' children will defile kinship. It is harsh in the world, with whoredom rife
    ... so, not long to go now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    I'd like to see the battle of the sexes end too but its not going to happen until women reject feminism in all its forms. I simply don't see that one happening.
    It won't end unless males quit calling every woman a feminist and there are many forms of "feminism" even a female that is traditional can be a type of feminist in her own right. If a woman likes to be a homemaker or mother is that not practicing a form of feminism? I always get a chuckle and sometimes a good laugh at some of the men on here when they start bashing women and wonder why they can't get a decent woman. There are plenty good decent women, but you never get one by constantly bashing women.
    Life is like a fire hydrant- sometimes you help people put out their fires, but most of the time you just get peed on by every dog in the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    It won't end unless males quit calling every woman a feminist and there are many forms of "feminism" even a female that is traditional can be a type of feminist in her own right. If a woman likes to be a homemaker or mother is that not practicing a form of feminism?
    No. Feminism is a socio-politically defined term, and has been so the last century or so. A traditional housewife may very well call herself a 'feminist', but she is embodying the very antithesis of what feminism is about. It's like an anarcho-capitalist calling himself a 'socialist', simply because he likes to go out to socialize with other people and have a beer at the local pub.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    I always get a chuckle and sometimes a good laugh at some of the men on here when they start bashing women and wonder why they can't get a decent woman. There are plenty good decent women, but you never get one by constantly bashing women.
    No offense, but I suspect your target group isn't Western females between 18 and 30 years old. That's not to say women in this age bracket can't be nice, friendly and intelligent, but try talking with them about women's natural, primary role as child-carers, the non-sense of egalitarianism, the immorality abortion, the destructiveness of promiscuity, or any other subject vital to a healthy, traditional relationship, and see the vast majority of them running for the hills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    No. Feminism is a socio-politically defined term, and has been so the last century or so. A traditional housewife may very well call herself a 'feminist', but she is embodying the very antithesis of what feminism is about. It's like an anarcho-capitalist calling himself a 'socialist', simply because he likes to go out to socialize with other people and have a beer at the local pub.
    This is where most are wrong, we need to take back words and there original meanings. These cultural marxist that call themselves "feminist" need to be called out for what they really are...cultural marxist. When I hear the word "feminist" it sounds like all things concerning women, not the destruction of culture which most of these people are so into. In essence we need to start calling a spade a spade and not allow them to borrow words that sound nice a case in point is using "progressive" when they really mean leftist or marxist.

    No offense, but I suspect your target group isn't Western females between 18 and 30 years old. That's not to say women in this age bracket can't be nice, friendly and intelligent, but try talking with them about women's natural, primary role as child-carers, the non-sense of egalitarianism, the immorality abortion, the destructiveness of promiscuity, or any other subject vital to a healthy, traditional relationship, and see the vast majority of them running for the hills.
    Well I have a serious girlfriend and yes she younger than I and she is very much a "Western female" with reddish blond hair and striking blue eyes, so really I am not targeting any female. True in the past I was always with women my own age or maybe older, that is not the point I'm making here. Life is fun, be yourself and not so uptight and eventually if this advice is taken younger males will find a mate.

    You would be surprised at how many younger 30s and 20s women/girls go for older more stable men. Ask yourself why these women are attracted to older more secure men. Basic instinct is the key here, young men need to start acting more like men and grow up, take the first step and the young ladies will follow that is nature.

    Finding a woman to have a good time with is not a problem. Finding a suitable mother for one's children is a different matter.
    That is a different subject altogether and should be a different thread, if that is what some guys here are looking for, but don't expect me to post anything serious in such a thread and I would use it for laughs and entertain value only.

    **Edit added the part about "Western Female"
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    Another scene affiliated with the incels are the 'nice guys', also known as 'fedoras' or 'neckbeards' - nice guys are de facto incels, but don't use the incel label - and it's a different crowd, it consists of clueless 'blue pill' virgins. they probably represent that segment of men which is the most ignorant on the nature and desires of women. Their complaint is that nice guys like them are ignored while bad boys get all the women, hence their conclusion is "women don't want nice guys". This in turn leads to plenty of drama, with the more frustrated amongst them losing their cool and dropping their nice guy act, openly talking about the mistreatment of women as "it's what they want". Autism also runs rife in these circles - with many of the autists being atheist extremists.

    This specimen is the archetypical nice guy:



    Of course, nice guys are not necessarily nice, in fact, they're known for not being nice at all. They think them being "nice" to women should ultimately lead to having sex with them. It doesn't dawn on them that anyone can be 'nice' and that it can't be a basis for romantic relationships - no matter how repulsing they themselves may be and how little they have to offer. And when they try to be witty or flirty, they inevitably sound spectacularly desperate and creepy. Plenty of them identify as 'male feminists'; it's just one more attempt at being 'nice' - of course leading nowhere. Feminist nice guys are known for their rather anti-feminist outbursts when they don't get their way with women. Far from being master manipulators, these guys become eternally stuck in the friend zone, or more like the avoid zone.




    My favorite nice guy is Joseph Strickland. Be cautious, Joe "The Beast" is known for endlessly repeating himself. He thinks a guy (him) being ugly, boring and poor doesn't matter, because his niceness levels are still the same, no matter what.
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