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  • East Prussia should be Returned to Germany,and the Prussians Returned from Exile

    40 72.73%
  • East Prussia should Remain a Russian Holding

    3 5.45%
  • East Prussia should Be Gaven to Lithuania

    4 7.27%
  • East Prussia should be Made an Indipendant Nation,and the Prussians Returned from Exile

    7 12.73%
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    1 1.82%
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Thread: What Should Be Done With East Prussia?

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    Question What Should Be Done With East Prussia?

    I would like to know what everyone s opinon on East Prussia is,and more specfically what the future of east prussia should be.I feel as an East Prussian,and as east prussians being the only reminants of the once prosperous Baltic Pruszi People,that naturally the land should be returned to them,and them alone.

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    Post Re: East Prussia

    East Prussia is a territorry that historicaly belongs to German People.I don't know if they still live any German population there!But ,yes ,East Prussia belongs to Germany !
    ME NE FREGO

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    Post Re: East Prussia



    Unfortunatly there are less than 1000 Prussians remaining in the "Kaliningrad Oblast".We were the victim of a russian genocide aginst us.the rest of us are living in exile Around the world.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Holocaust
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    The Evacuation of East Prussia refers to the events that took place in East Prussia, especially evacuation of German population from that area as well as from other Prussian lands in 1944 and 1945.
    When the Soviet army invaded the German province of East Prussia, a war crime is reported to happen in August 1944 in two East Prussian villages called Nemmersdorf (now Mayakovskoye, Kaliningrad) and Goldap. According to German side, all the inhabitans (men, women, and children) were slaughtered, as well as French prisoners-of-war. Many women were raped before they were murdered, and in at least one farmyard the women were stripped naked and nailed through their hands in cruciform position. To each of the two doors of a barn near the village inn a naked woman was crucified. At least 72 women with children were slaughtered, while their babies had their heades smashed in. This genocidal pattern would in the following months repeat itself across entire East Prussia, and then spread to West Prussia, Pomerania, Brandenburg, and Silesia — in other words the lands east of the Oder-Neisse Line that were to be taken away from Germany in light of Potsdam conference agreements.

    These events were widely spreaded by German propaganda to increase motivation of German soldiers in their efforts to stop the Soviet Army. However, the main result was eruption of panic amongst the German civilians. Fleeing from the advanicing Soviet forces, the German refugees trudged in great columns through the snow at -25°C, while Soviet aircrafts performed shellfire raids on them. Possibly, more than 2 million people in eastern provinces of Germany died, great majority of them with frost, starvation and fightings but some were killed in massacres commited by Soviet forces. One of the symbols of those events was the tragedy of German cruise Wilhelm Gustloff, which had been sunk by Soviet submarine with more than 9,000 people (majority of them civilians) abroad.

    The name of Nemmersdorf is considered to be a symbol of the war crimes of the Red Army. Others consider it a symbol of propaganda aimed at shifting the attention away from Nazi's crimes by equalizing Wehrmacht and Red Army in terms of war crimes.

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    Post Re: East Prussia

    I think East Prussia should become an independent nation.

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    Post Re: East Prussia

    I think that if it were ever possible, the land should be bought up by Germany and what inhabitants were left should be able to move back. Many of the original Baltic Prussians were killed in the middle ages or were absorbed into the new German population. Also for economic and environmental reasons i think this would be the best solution since the current government in Kalinigrad has let the situation become the worst in Europe.

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    Post Re: East Prussia

    Quote Originally Posted by Prussian_Mystic


    Unfortunatly there are less than 1000 Prussians remaining in the "Kaliningrad Oblast".We were the victim of a russian genocide aginst us.the rest of us are living in exile Around the world.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Holocaust
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    Less than 1000?

    Why should East Prussia be independent? I would like to see Kant's Koenigsberg reunited with the rest of Germany.
    Last edited by Stríbog; Tuesday, September 7th, 2004 at 08:45 AM.

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    Post Re: East Prussia

    Quote Originally Posted by Stríbog
    Less than 1000?

    Why should East Prussia be independent? I would like to see Kant's Koenigsburg reunited with the rest of Germany.
    East Prussia should be given (back) to Lithuania. Germanics would have had nothing to do with it anyway in the event Lake Peipus was located further west.

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    Post Re: East Prussia

    Quote Originally Posted by The Blond Beast
    East Prussia should be given (back) to Lithuania.
    Do you feel the same way about Belarus?

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    Post Re: East Prussia

    Most young Germans don't care one way or another about the Eastern provinces, so it doesn't make much sense to give the stolen provinces back if the people don't care to have them back. On the other hand, to not give them back would be to vindicate Stalin
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    Didn't Germany have to accept the Oder-Neisse border in order to go ahead with re-unification 15 years ago? It wasn't a matter of Kohl not wanting any of the Eastern provinces back, it was politics. England and France and others wouldn't agree to German re-unification unless West Germany agreed to the Oder-Neisse as the permanent border. It was a "take it or leave it" type of deal
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