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    Folks, let's get back to the original topic, and leave the personal and ideological differences for private messages or the correct, corresponding topics. Any more off-topic posts will be removed. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    I don't care how Eurosnobs with a long history of ruling over the English Folk in Britain and America feel about how they are affronted by casual and open communication. How dare Saxon peasantry address our liege lords with such liberty? Don't we know our place? Why should they respond favourably to our upright and rebellious nature? The truth is, Britons and Americans are considered bottom of the totem pole among French and Germans, who all look at themselves as aristocrats compared to us "simpletons". The overly sophisticated fops have as little interest in Anglophones as they value our money for their overpriced goods and services. That's what Brexit and Remain are about!
    Not sure how you reached that conclusion, that paragraph simply advocated "treat others how you'd like to be treated", i.e. with respect. The person who wrote that blog has a point, actually sometimes tourists (not only Americans, but tourists in general) have this attitude of entitlement, as if natives exist to serve them. The fact that they aren't received with a red carpet doesn't mean that natives perceive themselves to be above them. In many cases it's just a question of lack of time (the person stopped by the tourist might have to hurry for work), they are not native or acquainted with that particular area and they don't want to give the wrong directions, or, as Schmetterling mentioned, they aren't fluent in the language of the tourist.

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    Germans are just more blunt and don't beat around the bush. I'm American, but I much prefer the German way in this respect. Less sugarcoating. If someone looks fat in a dress and they ask me if that dress makes 'em look fat, I'm gonna tell 'em the truth. No point in false niceties and political correctness. But let's get somethin' straight, bluntness ain't rude or impolite. It's just calling a spade a spade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmetterling View Post
    Yes, it is a matter of cultural misunderstandings. What Siebenbürgerin posted was pretty spot on. Germans aren't "rude" or "cold", they just don't share the same kind of values Americans do. Another article which explains the differences: 17 cultural clashes this European had in America

    I've lived both in USA and in Germany, and culturally they are worlds apart. Americans like to talk a lot, make small talk with strangers and tend to be oversensitive towards opinions and criticism, while Germans talk less, only when they feel they have something to say. Another thing is that not all of them speak English, so they might be feeling shy or unconfident to engage in random conversation with a stranger. However, most of them will help with basic things like directions, etc.
    Sieben's blogger illustrated correlations between Britons and Americans on one hand, Germans and French on the other. These alignments have several eras behind them, going back to the time before Charlemagne, even to Augustus in Germania, as opposed to Jutland and Britain. It's all about proximity to Rome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    My poor attitude? Very funny! How about your own attitude? Look on the mirror "yankee".

    I see ... how about "jenkki" then?
    He said/she said, rarely end well. This is where rudeness flourishes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe Jens Lornsen View Post
    Go away ! Typical Nigroe Behaviour !

    You have not entertained anyone here , go play feetsball , if you feel to entertain .

    I don't know if I should shed some tears or laugh about your existence !
    FooSSball happened to be my favourite game, along with Galaga, when I used to compete on the YMCA swim team after school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Resist View Post
    Folks, let's get back to the original topic, and leave the personal and ideological differences for private messages or the correct, corresponding topics. Any more off-topic posts will be removed. Thank you.
    Funny how a debate started by an American about German social attitudes quickly turned into American-bashing by those who have only ever been supported by me on Skadi until this thread. I'd say that Germans are far more polite than the reception I received by them, so don't I feel foolish for having bothered caring for those with disadvantaged positions relative the dominant position of German great power influence upon their regional identities?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winkelried View Post
    Not sure how you reached that conclusion, that paragraph simply advocated "treat others how you'd like to be treated", i.e. with respect. The person who wrote that blog has a point, actually sometimes tourists (not only Americans, but tourists in general) have this attitude of entitlement, as if natives exist to serve them. The fact that they aren't received with a red carpet doesn't mean that natives perceive themselves to be above them. In many cases it's just a question of lack of time (the person stopped by the tourist might have to hurry for work), they are not native or acquainted with that particular area and they don't want to give the wrong directions, or, as Schmetterling mentioned, they aren't fluent in the language of the tourist.
    I'm as willing to get down to the national psyche, based on historical precedent, as much as the blogger and the OP in this thread and the anti-American members have seized upon stereotypes. I have very little use for anti-German and anti-American stereotypes, unlike everyone else here not dispelling the falsehoods or exaggerating them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gefjon View Post
    Germans are just more blunt and don't beat around the bush. I'm American, but I much prefer the German way in this respect. Less sugarcoating. If someone looks fat in a dress and they ask me if that dress makes 'em look fat, I'm gonna tell 'em the truth. No point in false niceties and political correctness. But let's get somethin' straight, bluntness ain't rude or impolite. It's just calling a spade a spade.
    I have nothing against, but everything for, this as my own communication approach. I've never criticized Germans for being just like me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmetterling View Post
    Americans like to talk a lot, make small talk with strangers . . ..
    That is what is rude. It's rude for a perfect stranger to interrupt someone who is shopping, etc., to talk about nothing of any importance. Put another way: Minding one's own business is more polite than bothering strangers.

    Americans also tend to place less value on personal space than northern Europeans do, which is probably related to the gregarious American personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Endgame View Post
    That is what is rude. It's rude for a perfect stranger to interrupt someone who is shopping, etc., to talk about nothing of any importance. Put another way: Minding one's own business is more polite than bothering strangers.

    Americans also tend to place less value on personal space than northern Europeans do, which is probably related to the gregarious American personality.
    I'm not like this and have only ever lived in America. I never cared for small talk. That's why I don't like chatrooms and social media sites. I was raised in an Ivy League social environment and my predilection is for academic discussions. I read textbooks, not gossip columns about the Kardashians.

    Furthermore, Americans are no less Nordic than Germans. Cut the crap already! What's so gregarious about me? What about the friendly, innocent and naive Nordic stereotype, contrasted with the cold calculation of cynical Machiavellian dictatorships and juntas in Latin Europe/America, or the Soviets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    I'm not like this and have only ever lived in America. I never cared for small talk.
    I did not say that all Americans are gregarious busybodies, howver, there are enough Americans who fit those traits that people are able to generalise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    Furthermore, Americans are no less Nordic than Germans.
    The Mediterranean portion of America's white population is considerable. This is obvious to anyone who has ever been to New Jersey, New York, or southern New England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Endgame View Post
    I did not say that all Americans are gregarious busybodies, howver, there are enough Americans who fit those traits that people are able to generalise.



    There Mediterranean portion of America's white population is considerable. This is obvious to anyone who has ever been to New Jersey, New York, or southern New England.
    Jersey Shore Guineas or Dago Wogs and Wops are not Americans but European foreigners on our soil. Maybe, since you claim "Britannic" ancestry, you wish to push a Roman agenda, with us as all merely backward provincial barbarians. You can claim Roman Britannia as the source of your own ethnogenesis, but leave the rest of us out of your identity crisis. Therefore, according to what Finnish Swede and others have stated, you fit the bill like some Mediterranean American, the Ugly American stereotype not belonging to the rest of us. You can't have it both ways. Have your cake and eat it too? Shall we too eat cake, Marie-Antoinette? Dig your own grave! Are you a Channel Islander or something? Maybe a Cornubian or Welchman. Who knows, but certainly non-Saxon.

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    "...It is true that Dutch are and overly sensitive individualists, compared to Germans. Amsterdam has a hustle and bustle absent from most of Germany, but Germans are far more efficient with their time...."
    Politically correct and overly sensitive individuals!?
    Are you taking the piss?
    Amsterdam is not The Netherlands...
    I wonder if you even know what you're talking about..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wychaert View Post
    Politically correct and overly sensitive individuals!?
    Are you taking the piss?
    Amsterdam is not The Netherlands...
    I wonder if you even know what you're talking about..
    Whilst Holland is a pioneer in freedom of speech, the Dutch also have a persecution complex and use this sensitivity to extend validation and acknowledgement of the absolutely ridiculous. Hence, concocting Pim Fortuyn as a martyr. This is the source of Milo as a spokesman for the Alt-Right, having homophiles as a politically correct mouthpiece, a human shield to make politically incorrect statements accepted. Everything perverted and disturbing about Amsterdam is only allowed because to do otherwise, was seen as infringement upon the individuality of persons. Hence, sex and drugs along with a massive foreign enclave resident there. It matters not that you want to disown the chief example of your own policies and society.

    If Americans want to be embarrassed over New York City, there's a common thread with Amsterdam of hedonism and outlanders in place of normal folks. Who can be blamed for this but the Dutch in both countries? Most other folks would not tolerate the Sodom and Gomorrah that characterizes old and New Amsterdams, but it had become the new standard for politically correct acceptance and the only thing making a wedge issue among Left-wing activists: hedonism or Sharia? They want both to get universal appreciation, but are being presented with the prospect of making a choice between them and they would rather not, thinking instead all or nothing. Perhaps Jews are involved, that too because of Dutch insistence on including all manner of abnormal society be welcomed in the cause of unfettered individualism that is a free-for-all.

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