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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    Whist I voted FOR BREXIT in 2016, a word of caution. Leaving the EU will not stop immigration. In fact you will be swapping Europeans for yet more Africans and Asians. It is not a solution to the problem of mass immigration.
    But it sets a precedent. And I'm not sure that it wouldn't mean less Blacks, brown and yellow people. The EU is keen on importing more people of other races and distribute them on EU countries. Besides that, you need sovereignty to decide on who gets into your country and who doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theunissen View Post
    But it sets a precedent. And I'm not sure that it wouldn't mean less Blacks, brown and yellow people. The EU is keen on importing more people of other races and distribute them on EU countries. Besides that, you need sovereignty to decide on who gets into your country and who doesn't.
    The Conservative cabinet is on record as saying to the Third World that the United Kingdom is "open for business": open for non-European immigration in other words. Leaving the European Union will not make the slightest positive difference. Sovereignty will NOT be regained as it was given away decades ago to the BANKERS! The bankers govern the United Kingdom and determine government policy: no one else! What you will see however is the implosion and fragmentation of the United Kingdom (not in itself a bad thing). The solution is not to be found in leaving the European Union but in destroying capitalism. Only a revolution can achieve this.

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    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    BREXIT supporter and former Labour MP George Galloway has spelt out exactly why the UK cannot leave the EU under the terms of Theresa May’s Withdrawal Agreement.

    George Galloway claimed the UK needed to “become again a world centre for culture” which he suggested was unlikely to happen under the terms of Theresa May’s Brexit agreement. The Prime Minister’s agreement has been criticised by pro-Brexit Tory MPs and the DUP who have raged at the controversial backstop element of the deal which threatens to keep the UK tied to the EU’s customs union indefinitely. Speaking on RT , Mr Galloway spelt out how Brexit Britain can thrive once the UK leaves the EU, pointing out he favours the UK leaving on World Trade Organisation rules.



    Read full article: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/10...test-agreement

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    Ireland Admits It Will Need Emergency Aid to Survive ‘No Deal’ Brexit


    The European Union’s facade of confidence in the Brexit negotiations is beginning to crack, as the Irish government admits it will need “mega-money” in aid to survive the fallout of “No Deal”.


    British Brexiteers have long argued that the United Kingdom should have been making serious preparations for a clean exit from the EU on World Trade Organization (WTO) terms — “No Deal” — to strengthen its hand at the negotiating table.

    They appear to have been at least partially vindicated now at the eleventh hour, as the Republic of Ireland — arguably the EU member-state which has been most belligerent towards Britain up to now — has begun to panic. The Atlantic-facing nation is now highlighting the hugely damaging impact No Deal could have on its own farmers and fishing industry, in particular.

    “There is a high level of awareness of Ireland’s unique exposure to the UK food market. But I think nobody wants to talk about it right now because there is still a hope and expectation that a level of sanity will prevail,” Minister for Agriculture Michael Creed toldthe Irish Independent. “I think we would get help. It’s all about the level of help,” he added with a hint of desperation.

    The United Kingdom has a massive trade deficit with the European Union, and will be its single-largest export market after Brexit — a fact Brexiteers believe should have given London a great deal of leverage in Brussels if it had negotiated with more confidence.

    Creed observed that some 50% of Irish beef exports are currently absorbed by the British market, and that around a third of fish caught by Irish boats are lifted from British waters — an arrangement which has proved highly damaging to the British fishing industry, and which would be terminated by a clean Brexit. In terms of the aid Ireland would require to sustain itself, Creed was blunt: “You’re looking at hundreds of millions here. Between the beef industry and the fishing industry we’re talking mega-money.”

    The panicked observations seem to have been prompted by the dawning realisation that, should Theresa May’s “worst deal in history” be rejected and Remain diehards fail in their quest to derail Brexit entirely, No Deal will become inevitable.

    “In racing parlance the odds are slashed on a hard Brexit,” Creed observed.

    “A ‘good Brexit’ would not be as good as what we have right now – but a ‘hard Brexit’ is a beast of a different colour altogether,” Creed warned, saying he would be lobbying hard to his country to save emergency aid from the EU in the event of No Deal. The bloc may struggle to support the Republic to the extent Mr Creed would prefer, however, given the
    parlous state of the Eurozone and the impending loss of billions of pounds in British contributions to its central budget.

    Ireland Admits It Will Need Emergency Aid to Survive ‘No Deal’ Brexit 04 Jan 2019.

    Changed days, Irish Nationalist Republicans have morphed into blind ardent European globalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagdmesser View Post
    Changed days, Irish Nationalist Republicans have morphed into blind ardent European globalists.
    The United Kingdom should have threatened to exit immediately 2.5 years ago without asking for a deal and the EU would have offered them one on a golden plate. May has been weak and ineffectual as the United Kingdom always had the potential stronger hand. In more enlightened times a gun boat would have been sent to Johnny Foreigner and they would have been told what to do.

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    Ireland loves exactly what Britain hates about Europe


    London and Dublin’s mental geographies have embarked on different trajectories


    Although Ireland will be deeply affected by Brexit, we have to an extraordinary extent been unaffected by the Brexit debate. The main arguments and fears of the Brexiteers are essentially alien to us. We don’t share their wish to return to an imagined past. Unlike the UK today, we are confident about our ability to promote our interests in the modern interdependent world. Xenophobia in Ireland is not on anything like the scale we have recently witnessed in the UK. Nor do we share the insularity of the Brexiteers. Quite remarkably, today it is the UK rather than Ireland which, in the words of the song, 'thanks God it’s surrounded by water.'


    In Ireland and Britain, we increasingly perceive reality in quite different ways. The reasons a majority in the UK voted to leave the EU are, paradoxically, the very same reasons that an overwhelming majority in Ireland want to stay. This is true of each of the six main arguments of the Brexiteers.


    An attachment to sovereignty was the first and major reason put forward for Brexit. We in Ireland, however, understand sovereignty in the 21st century as something to be judiciously shared rather than as a tribal token to be protected from the sunlight like Gollum’s ring in The Hobbit. Gollum’s plaintive words, as he looks for the ring, could almost be those of Jacob Rees-Mogg speaking about British sovereignty: “We wants it. We needs it. Must have the precious. They stole it from us. Sneaky little hobbitses.”


    Ireland’s desire to be as global as possible, on the contrary, is one of the very reasons we remain committed to the EU

    Second, many Brexiteers want to leave the EU because they believe that it will enable Britain to “go global”. Ireland’s desire to be as global as possible, on the contrary, is one of the very reasons we remain committed to the EU. We understand that there is no contradiction between, on the one hand, developing the closest relations with our natural neighbourhood and market and, on the other hand, developing deeper links with the wider word. Indeed we recognise that the EU has the essential negotiating heft to make global reach effective, as reflected most recently in the EU’s major trade deal with Japan.


    ‘Taking control’

    Third, the Brexit slogan about “taking control” was at the heart of the Leave campaign and has echoed across the British public debate ever since. The immense success of that policy has been on daily display at Westminster. Funnily enough, we in Ireland, in common with our other EU partners, are opting to stay in the EU precisely because we want to have control over the issues that affect us. Many issues, from education to health to policing, will, of course, continue to be controlled largely at national level since the EU can only exercise the powers which all member states have agreed to confer on it. But in Ireland we understand that if we want to maximise control over the important issues which by definition do not stop at borders – from trade to energy to international crime – these must be addressed on a cross-border basis; and we know the EU remains the most effective cross-border mechanism in the world.

    We know the EU remains the most effective cross-border mechanism in the world

    Fourth, many Brexiteers are driven by the idea that they are putting their country first. But so, of course, do we. The real issue is whether national interests are to be defined narrowly and pursued as if the aim is to be masters of our own little world; or whether, as we believe in Ireland, those interests should be defined broadly and pursued in the knowledge that the real world is necessarily one of interdependence, compromise and shared interests.


    Welcome for foreigners

    Fifth, the most emotive argument for some, though not all, Brexiteers has been about keeping foreigners out. In Ireland, we support the principle of free movement of people and welcome the “new Irish” who are building up our economy, enriching our culture and making us proud to be Europeans.

    Finally, many Brexit voters were influenced by the notion of the UK becoming more “independent”. Some even went so far as to call June 23rd, 2016, “Independence Day”. It requires myopia, when one thinks of say Finland or Lithuania, for any of our British friends to believe that they alone truly value independence. But it reaches full historical amnesia for any British person to believe they need, as Nigel Farage absurdly has done, to remind Ireland of the meaning of independence. Independence for us is not something to celebrate in lonely isolation; rather it allows us, to use Robert Emmet’s phrase, to take our place among the nations of the earth.


    It has become clear that many Irish and British people now have quite different understandings of the world. The sad reality is that our mental geography is increasingly different and that we are now set on different trajectories. The mature Irish response to Brexit may prove to be the most important assertion yet of our psychological independence.


    Bobby McDonagh is a former Irish ambassador to the EU, Britain and Italy


    Ireland loves exactly what Britain hates about Europe 05 Jan 2019.
    “The reasons a majority in the UK voted to leave the EU are, paradoxically, the very same reasons that an overwhelming majority in Ireland want to stay. This is true of each of the six main arguments of the Brexiteers.” The author of this article is: Bobby McDonagh is a former Irish ambassador to the EU. Naturally he is going to push a strong EU line. Something the whole bought Irish establishment has pushed hard for the last 25 years.

    The whole object of MSM is to think for the masses. Irish MSM does that and very successfully too. The whole populace of the Rep. of Ireland is ardent liberal cultural marxist and proud of being so.

    Severing ties with Britain will have major serious consequences for exports and migration. Something that little attention has been paid to.

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    I would be interested to know if people think that the predominant Catholic faith of Ireland has anything to do with its gravitating towards the EU or is it perhaps spite, some kind of payback for all those protestant who where settled in their area?
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    I would be interested to know if people think that


    1. the predominant catholic faith of Ireland has anything to do with its gravitating towards the EU



    1. or is it perhaps spite, some kind of payback for all those protestant who where settled in their area?


    Bitterreinder.
    The predominant Catholic faith of Ireland has very little to do with Ireland gravitating towards the EU. By and large Ireland is a post Christian country (gay marriage referendum and abortion referendum proves this). Some Protestants and most Catholics are convinced post-Christian liberal cultural Marxists. The Education system, MSM and 45 years of EU membership have accomplished this.

    Other factors played along as well. From the outset of the 1968 ‘troubles’ (War) nationalist marxist Sinn Fein played their hand extremely well and morphed into a European globalist party with all along good tacit support from Brussels whose interest was ownership of the country and the surrounding ocean.

    Partition of the island of Ireland was always going to be a problem Britain had to put up with it and pay financially for it. Britain has always been obsessed about external affairs and politics to the cost, neglect and determinant of Britain and the British people. Look at the state of the UK and the post-colonial problem of migration. In Ireland ‘Brits Out’ and replacing them with muslims and coloureds then signing the country over to Brussels is treachery not nationalism.

    Irish have been naively stupid,
    EuroRats crafty and sly
    and the British outplayed - hammered (for the time being). EU will collapse sooner than we think.

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