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    Meantime, they're trying to rush as many EU immigrants into Britain as possible before we leave ...



    And all this is going on while Sajid Javid's uncles back home in Pakistan are running a fake passport scam ...

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/622132...scam-pakistan/

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    Professor: Rory stewart is an establishment “spy” tasked with destroying brexit



    Potential next UK Prime Minister recruited by MI6 at Oxford University


    A history professor at the London School of Economics asserts that Conservative Party leadership candidate Rory Stewart is a “spy” who is being backed by the establishment to destroy Brexit.


    Stewart has denied claims he spied for MI6 after it was revealed that he was recruited by the Secret Intelligence Service after graduating from Oxford University. The London Telegraph reported, “Claims from a Whitehall security source, who said that Mr Stewart had spent seven years as a spy before entering Parliament.”


    However, according to Alan Sked, emeritus professor of international history at the London School of Economics, it is “very likely” that Stewart is an establishment plant who has been tasked with derailing Brexit.


    A history professor at the London School of Economics asserts that Conservative Party leadership candidate Rory Stewart is a “spy” who is being backed by the establishment to destroy Brexit.


    Stewart has denied claims he spied for MI6 after it was revealed that he was recruited by the Secret Intelligence Service after graduating from Oxford University. The London Telegraph reported, “Claims from a Whitehall security source, who said that Mr Stewart had spent seven years as a spy before entering Parliament.” However, according to Alan Sked, emeritus professor of international history at the London School of Economics, it is “very likely” that Stewart is an establishment plant who has been tasked with derailing Brexit.


    Professor: Rory Stewart is an Establishment “Spy” Tasked ... 19 Jun 2019.




    They always pick an exceptionally good public speaker. Anyway he’s out of the race to be PM.



    Remainer Darling Rory Stewart Out of Tory Leadership Race, Boris Strengthens Lead

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    The Tory leadership contest is more like a freak show.

    Boris Johnson, Rory Stewart, Michael Gove ... hardly any of the candidates look 'normal' to me!

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    Meantime, as far as the other bunch of misfits is concerned ...

    Labour MPs warn Corbyn not to commit to second Brexit referendum

    'Twenty-six Labour MPs have written to Jeremy Corbyn, warning him that embracing a second Brexit referendum would be “toxic to our bedrock voters”.

    MPs including Stephen Kinnock, Gloria De Piero, Sarah Champion, Jon Cruddas, Caroline Flint, Gareth Snell and Lisa Nandy sent the letter as the party’s shadow cabinet met on Wednesday to discuss Brexit policy.

    The meeting comes amid expectations that the Labour leader is set to announce a modest shift towards supporting a referendum.

    In the meeting, the Guardian understands MPs received a voting analysis written by party strategists.

    The document said it was “not obvious, from the evidence of local elections and Peterborough, that a more ‘pro-remain’ position from Labour would in itself win back voters currently lost to the Liberal Democrats, or in a numerical enough way that would offset leave voters in many of the key marginals, that [we] have lost both recently and over the last few general elections”.

    Though the document said there were target remain seats in and around London, such as Cities of London and Westminster, Putney, Watford and Wimbledon that Labour needed to win, the majority of target and defensive seats were in the Midlands and the north of England and voted leave.

    “The recent elections don’t suggest any change to this basic arithmetic, given the geographical distribution of leave and remain voters,” the analysis said.'


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    EU leaders ‘enormously hostile’ to another Brexit delay and will only give one for second referendum or general election

    Hmm, how convenient ... ... and what's the betting that Boris will call a general election as soon as he becomes PM?

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    Brexit Party’s Farage Ignites Twitter With 10YO Brexiteer's Letter on Pro-EU Brainwashing at School


    Nigel Farage has shared a hand-written note from a schoolboy, called Mathew, offering his most sincere and ardent support to the Brexit Party and slamming MPs for “ignoring democracy” by turning their backs on the results of the 2016 referendum on leaving the EU.

    The letter from a 10-year-old Brexiteer, Mathew, evoked strong emotion from the Brexit Party’s co-founder Nigel Farage, who posted the message on Twitter and branded it “amazing”, but sparked a wave of angry comments.

    The “fellow leaver”, as Farage described the young author of the letter, thanked the politician, saying: “Without you the Leave voters would have nobody to represent their opinions."

    Mathew accused the “majority of MPs in Parliament” trying “to ignore democracy and overturn the referendum result” and complained about anti-Brexit propaganda in his school.

    "At my school they try and brainwash us to be pro-EU but me and my friend Jim (fellow Leaver) know their tricks,” the boy wrote in the note.

    Some commenters, however, expressed doubts that the message was genuine and used it to trash Farage.

    Others mocked the letter itself.


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    3 Years Ago We Voted Brexit. Here’s the Real Reason We Haven’t Yet Got It…

    Today is the third anniversary of the EU Referendum. Like all Brexiteers, I can remember exactly where I was when I heard the result. And more importantly, I remember exactly how it felt.



    It felt as people must have done on VE Day. (Quite appropriate, really, given what the E in VE Day stands for…)


    It felt how that preeminent knight of the Crusades Reynald de Chatillon must have felt on his release after years in the lightless, airless, foetid dungeons of Aleppo.


    It felt like that time I chatted up a Norwegian barmaid well above my pay grade and instead of being turned down I got lucky.


    It felt like lots of other things too, all of them good, and I expect it was just the same for you. Brexit Day — Independence Day, as we told ourselves we would soon come to call it — was perhaps the greatest political event of our lives because it was so momentous and so unexpected.



    Momentous because — unlike general elections for parties so samey there was little to choose between them anyway — the result really would make a genuine difference.


    Unexpected because — as we’d seen in the fractious, ugly campaign leading up to it — the Remainer Establishment had done everything it conceivably could have done, both by fair means and foul, to try to ensure that the people of Britain did not vote the way all their instincts urged them to vote.


    The outcome, despite the Remainer Establishment’s best efforts, was:

    17,410,742 for Leave

    16,141,241 for Remain


    Ever since, Remoaners have tried to persuade us that this 52% margin was so tiny that frankly we should either ignore the result or run the Referendum over and over again until the right decision is reached.


    But I suspect that the margin would have been considerably larger if the Establishment had not put so much money and muscle into trying to thwart the popular will by frightening people with Project Fear. The Bank of England, the International Monetary Fund, the Civil Service, the BBC, the universities, the City of London, the Confederation of British Industry, the President of the USA, etc — the Remain Establishment threw everything it possibly could into its battle against democracy. And still it lost.


    After all that blatant cheating, you’ll forgive me for not being terribly sympathetic to the notion that we should bend over backwards to ensure that both Remainers and Leavers are kept happy by whatever happens next.


    No, we shouldn’t.


    Brexit was a binary decision. We voted Leave and there’s an end to it. No more can you be half in and half out of Europe than you can be half pregnant.


    The idea that somewhere out there is some ingenious fudge whereby Britain gets Brexit but in such a way as to keep all the Remoaner losers on side was always one so stupid and dishonest that only a Remainer could have thought of it.


    That’s because Remainers did think of it.


    Every bad idea about Brexit that has emerged since the EU Referendum is essentially the product of Remainer holdouts who don’t merely disagree with the Brexit result but who actively want to overturn it.


    Hard Brexit? A dishonest concept, fomented by the BBC, to conjure up the false notion that leaving the EU Single Market and Customs Union is so radical, nay extreme, that the sensible course is to water it down and make it softer.


    No Deal? A deliberately negative phrase — the clue is in that first word — cooked up in order to suggest, falsely, that instead of simply telling Brussels we’re leaving, like it or lump it, it’s far better to go cap in hand to Michel Barnier, Jean Claude-Juncker, and Guy Verhofstadt and beg them for permission.


    The Backstop? An imaginary problem, conjured from thin air, by Remainer Civil Servants in cahoots with their mates at the EU, to derail Brexit by exaggerating border tensions between Ireland and the United Kingdom.


    Withdrawal Agreement? A form of Brexit betrayal, secretly put together by a Remainer prime minister and her Remainer civil servants, in the fond hope that if you dip a turd in glitter everyone will go “Ooh! Shiny! Shiny!” and completely not notice what’s lurking underneath.


    When you understand this, it releases you from the state of planet-struck befuddlement in which the majority of Brexit voters have spent the last few years.


    That befuddlement can be summed up in the question that all the Brexiteers I know have been asking themselves again over the last three years: “How come — given that we were given a democratic vote on Brexit, and given that we promised that our decision would be honoured — we still haven’t got Brexit?”


    Well, let me tell you the answer. It’s really very simple.


    Britain in 2019 is a Third World country. It’s a Banana Republic. It’s a corrupt oligarchy. It’s Albania. It’s Russia. It’s Burkina Faso. It’s Venezuela. It’s all those countries in the world that we used to point at smugly congratulating ourselves that we’re not like them because Magna Carta, because English common law, because international transparency index, because the Queen — but which we can’t any more because we are like them.


    Not exactly like them, obviously. No, what we’ve done is adopted many of their worst vices — the venality, the lack of democratic accountability, the utter disregard for ordinary people, the financial corruption, and so on — but then dressed them up in a pinstripe suit and a bowler hat and a furled umbrella from Swaine Adeney Brigg in the pretence that everything is still OK.


    But everything is not OK.


    The Establishment in this country is as scheming and sinister and mendacious and self-serving and hateful and contemptuous and intransigent as the Establishments in all the more obviously corrupt and evil and dangerous countries in the world to which we used to feel superior. It’s just much better at masking its vileness.


    Just as a brief thought experiment, ask yourself how we’d view it if China had given its people a referendum and then executed a complete reverse ferret when the people gave the wrong result. Or if Iran had behaved similarly badly. Or the Democratic Republic of Congo.


    We’d all condemn it (presuming that we’d been made aware of it) as just the kind of dodgy behaviour you’d expect from Communist dictatorships/Islamic republics/African sweatboxes. We’d be disgusted; appalled; aghast that the regime in question could get away with such crimes against democracy.


    Yet somehow, mystifyingly, bizarrely, when our own government does it gets pretty much a free pass from our mainstream media, which for decades we’ve told ourselves is robust and fearless but which is in fact so compliant in might just as well be Soviet-era Pravda or Radio Pyongyang.


    Other, less subtle countries might have nixed their own versions of Brexit with say, death squads, or disappearances in the night, or massive bribes to influential figures or tanks mowing down a few dozen student protestors. But that’s not the British way.


    No, when the Remainer Establishment — our Deep State — wanted to kill Brexit, all it had to do was come up with that weasel excuse “Well you see, the thing is, it’s much, much more complicated than you think. And that’s why we can’t give you Brexit. Because procedural complexity and ‘the numbers’ and stuff you proles are simply too, erm, unsophisticated to understand…”


    And our tame media, to a greater or lesser degree, and a good many parliamentarians and commentators who really should have known better, accepted this line on our behalf.


    But we 17.4 million Brexiteers — and also, quite a few of those 16.1 million Remainers who have since changed sides having noticed just how appalling the EU and its supporters have been behaving these last three years — haven’t bought this fancy-pants slime ball nonsense.


    We don’t watch the BBC. We’ve given up on the newspapers. We don’t trust the Westminster politicians. And quite a few of us have been lucky enough not to benefit from a university “education”.


    We voted Brexit. We knew what the Brexit we voted for would look like when we got it. And so far, we definitely haven’t got it — or anything close.


    It’s just as well that one or two people in Parliament seem to be waking up to what’s going on — because until they do there is never going to be peace and stability in this land.


    Boris Johnson, in the likely event he becomes Prime Minister, is in the fortunate position of entering the role with no difficult choice.


    Either he delivers swift, full Brexit. Or he delivers swift, full Brexit.


    There really are no other options. The people decided this three years ago. The people must prevail.


    Three Years Ago We Voted Brexit. Here’s the Real Reason We Haven’t Yet Got It… 23 Jun 2019.


    Fake Democracy, Fake Leaders, Fake Political Parties, Fake Media News, Fake Education is how ‘Globalism’ is delivered. Opposition will end the UK. Two World Wars were fought for less.

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    Boris Johnson, in the likely event he becomes Prime Minister, is in the fortunate position of entering the role with no difficult choice. Either he delivers swift, full Brexit. Or he delivers swift, full Brexit.
    On the contrary, Boris is in a very difficult position because he has to 'accidentally' sabotage the Brexit and make it look convincing!

    I think he'll resort to an act of gross stupidity, such as calling a general election that the Tories lose.

    He already has a reputation for being a stumbling buffoon and this will be his next cock-up. Better to be seen as incompetent rather than treasonous ... it maintains that facade of 'democracy' for just a little a bit longer

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    Poll suggests MORE people now want to leave the EU than after the referendum

    The majority of British voters still want the UK to leave the European Union and just shy of a third want a No Deal split, according to a new poll.

    A YouGov survey of more than 1,600 people revealed that some 28 per cent of the electorate is in favour of a No Deal divorce from Brussels.

    And 13 per cent of people support a split on the terms secured by Theresa May while 16 per cent want a softer Brexit.

    The poll, conducted for The Times, suggests that some form of Brexit is favoured by 57 per cent of voters.

    However, remaining in the EU received more support than any of the other single options.

    Some 43 per cent of people want Britain to continue with its membership of the EU.

    The EU referendum in 2016 was won by Leave by 52 per cent to 48 per cent for Remain.

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    https://www.prisonplanet.com/poll-su...eferendum.html

    Full Daily Mail article here

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