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    MPs say we will stay in Single Market following Brexit.

    Pro-Remain MPs are considering using their Commons majority to keep Britain inside the EU single market if there is a vote for Brexit, the BBC has learned.

    The MPs fear a post-Brexit government might negotiate a limited free trade deal with the EU, which they say would damage the UK's economy.

    There is a pro-Remain majority in the House of Commons of 454 MPs to 147
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36457120

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    So Tory MP Sarah Woolaston is jumping ship to Remain...I wonder if the party whip is doing his rounds...or was always a plant to begin with or some other brib£ has been offered?

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    Interesting video on the economic aspect of the devious EU..

    http://pro.moneyweek.com/FSR-0316-PC/WFSRS627/?h=true

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    I certainly hope the UK votes to leave the EU. Immigration should be everyone's biggest concern and the EU cannot control its own borders.
    Maybe, off in the future sometime, Europeans will evolve a spinal column and union with them will be possible.

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    Richard Spencer wrote an interesting critique on Brexit:

    http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/201...pe-great-again

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    Pretty shallow analysis. Sure, leaving the EU will not solve all our problems, but it's a good first step, and really, the first victory for patriots in the UK for a very long time.

    The current immigration problem is partly the fault of Germany and Sweden - but the EU has a big share of the blame. The EU is meant to control Europe's external borders in Italy and Greece, but has refused to do so, letting hundreds of thousands of illegals into Europe. EU open borders has allowed migrants to move unimpeded to their preferred countries in the north of the continent. Also, the author seems to see immigration as only involving non-whites moving to white countries, but also immigration from the countries of the former eastern block.

    The writer doesn't tackle any of the other reasons people are Eurosceptic - the failure of the EU economy and Euro since 2008 (cf the PIIGS), the ever-expanding reach of the EU and the violation of national sovereignty and democracy, the EU bullying of Hungary, Slovakia and above all Poland for electing conservative governments.

    Regarding his last point - I've already explained my reasons against a European federal state earlier, but there is no reasonable chance of the EU becoming pro-white. The EU is stacked with unelected politicians, mostly failed or former politicians from mainland Europe, who are not accountable to the public. We can see, in the recent treatment of Poland, and Juncker's threat against Hofer in Austria, that any nationalist government would face sanctions in the EU. At the best, the current EU needs to be torn down before a pro-European one is constructed - it simply cannot be reformed from the inside.

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    Brexit Odds Hit Record High After Biggest UK Newspaper Urges Brits To Vote "Leave"

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...its-vote-leave

    EU referendum: Leave campaign storms ahead in polls by seven points as Jeremy Corbyn finally makes the case to Remain

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...e-campaign-to/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    What else?
    If elections could change anything, they'd be illegal.
    Furthermore, I consider that the EU must be destroyed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    My granddad is a Leave supporter and will be manning the polls throughout Thursday. If there's rigging he'll know about it.

    Voter fraud can matter in very close elections, like that in Austria (currently being adjudicated in that country's courts), it's comforting to think everyone agrees with us, but i can tell you from talking to young and middle class friends there's a lot of support for the EU or fear of Brexit around. The pro-Brexit message hasn't convinced some groups and especially we haven't shown people who just want stability that Brexit isn't risky.

    Re: the polls: In 2015 Survation showed the Tories 6% ahead, as did Survey Monkey. What shocked people is not that the Conservatives won - but that the spread of votes was such that they gained an overall majority. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinio...neral_election

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