Nordic Physical Characteristics With Dark Hair?

**Ljót-fulfr** · Thursday, September 2nd, 2004

I have very dark brown hair -- almost black when I was younger. Yet, I have always been much fairer than many of the blonde / "Nordic" types. I notice many blondes tan much better than I do and typically tan a very bronze color. However, I have never been able to sustain or tan in a real sense at all -- I only freckle and turn red / or burn -- when the burn goes away I am whiter than most so-called "Nordic" whites I know. I am the whitest of the whites!

In many of the books I read on this subject their exist an assumption that "Nordic" blonde hair is the primary indicator of Nordic ancestry. I feel quite certain if I dyed my hair blonde and posted a picture I would automatically be labeled "Nordic." Yet it is my own personal conviction that one can be almost purely Nordic in physical and facial characteristics and yet have contrasting dark hair -- yet in this case I am most always identified as Med. or Alpine.

Is there a contradiction here?

**Phill** · Friday, September 3rd, 2004

Well, I know your probably already know this, but there's more to being Nordic than just pigmentation. Maybe you should just try dying your hair and posting your piccie, maybe you won't get nordic. Maybe you'll get East-Baltic.

But, personally... I'm blonde, and I don't hardly tan well at all. I usually burn, then go back to my normal pasty-white color, but just barely a noticable shade darker. Other blondes I know are pretty much the same way, though some keep a more red color, and some others start to form freckles but that seems to be after some serious tanning or burning (or those could have been there before and I just somehow never noticed them.)

Plus... Are you sure all those blondes are natural blondes? I'm not saying all could have been fake, but still. And are you sure they're.... "nordic" ?

**Awar** · Friday, September 3rd, 2004

Dark-haired people who can't tan are pretty common in Britain and Ireland.
I've read about and witnessed often that blonde people tan much better than dark-haired or red-haired people.

I myself have reddish brown hair, and I can only burn.

**Dr. Solar Wolff** · Friday, September 3rd, 2004

Originally Posted by Ljót-fulfr

I have very dark brown hair -- almost black when I was younger. Yet, I have always been much fairer than many of the blonde / "Nordic" types. I notice many blondes tan much better than I do and typically tan a very bronze color. However, I have never been able to sustain or tan in a real sense at all -- I only freckle and turn red / or burn -- when the burn goes away I am whiter than most so-called "Nordic" whites I know. I am the whitest of the whites!

In many of the books I read on this subject their exist an assumption that "Nordic" blonde hair is the primary indicator of Nordic ancestry. I feel quite certain if I dyed my hair blonde and posted a picture I would automatically be labeled "Nordic." Yet it is my own personal conviction that one can be almost purely Nordic in physical and facial characteristics and yet have contrasting dark hair -- yet in this case I am most always identified as Med. or Alpine.

Is there a contradiction here?

What I get our of your description is that your pigmentation is more of Upper Paleolithic inspiration. I don't know what your head measurements are or your height or body build so it is hard to type you.

Many Nordics tan well and have blond hair. Many UPs have trouble tanning yet have darker hair.

**Ljót-fulfr** · Friday, September 3rd, 2004

Yes, I am probably a UP

3 years

As you can see -- while I have dark brown balding hair -- I also have a very reddish brown beard. I have very freckly skin (very freckly as a child

) and green eyes.

At 23

I always felt my facial features were quite Nordic in contrast to the dark hair -- any disagreements? This brings a question.....

Does UP describe a nose, ears, ect....?

Am I UP?

If I had blonde hair would I be a pure Nordic?

It just appears that a great deal of emphasis is placed on head hair color.

I read a book that said the Normans were pure Nordics but with dark hair -- Can this be true?

Lots of questions.....