To Loki on Ancestry by DNA

[nemo]

You posted this on the Northern European forum, and I do not think you know what your talking about.
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This AncestryByDNA "revelation" that Northern Europeans are unique and separate from Southern Europeans, does not come as a surprise to me at all. It "vindicates" TNP and Nordish preservation (not that it ever needed vindication).
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The report does not say that at all, what it says is that their is no unique nord race or med race and that Europeans are a mixture between both nord and med.

Some are more nord and others more med, but none are a 100% of either and are a combination of both.

So get your facts straight and stop living in myths.

I cannot post at the northern European forum even though my phenotype is probably more nordish then the whole crew over there or I would have posted this there.

[Evolved]

I agree. It divides people on the basis of paleolithic and neolithic, not on the basis of hair & eye pigmentation.

[Awar]

How dare you!

According to the paragraph 14 of the Jawjuh convention and the 2nd Kaapstadt amendment, it is forbidden to question Loki's statements.

[Nordhammer]

LG and AWAR following behind Nemo.

[Nordhammer]

You posted this on the Northern European forum, and I do not think you know what your talking about.
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This AncestryByDNA "revelation" that Northern Europeans are unique and separate from Southern Europeans, does not come as a surprise to me at all. It "vindicates" TNP and Nordish preservation (not that it ever needed vindication).
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The report does not say that at all, what it says is that their is no unique nord race or med race and that Europeans are a mixture between both nord and med.

By your reasoning then there is no difference between Europeans and Middle Easterners/South Asians since we're all mixed?

[Awar]

Not mixed, but there are transitions. These are all Caucasoid genes.
You can't take it all for granted either, the results must be interpreted.

The Iberians, French, Irish, Brits and Scandinavians all belong then to the predominantly NOR group. Also, it seems that Scandinavians have the highest ammount of Middle-Eastern ancestry, while Spaniards have the highest ammount of South Asian ancestry ( which makes no sense, since there has been no presence of Dravidians in Spain ).

[Tore]

I agree. It divides people on the basis of paleolithic and neolithic, not on the basis of hair & eye pigmentation.

Although this may account for the relatively high "NOR" frequencies among Iberians and the Irish (as well as the high percentage of "Middle Eastern" markers among Northern Europeans), it does not account for why Northern Europeans are still in possession of higher "NOR" scores when compared to the afforementioned groups, both of which have a greater percentage of Paleolithic derived (sex-linked) markers than Northern Europeans.

[Nordhammer]

Not mixed, but there are transitions. These are all Caucasoid genes.
You can't take it all for granted either, the results must be interpreted.

The Iberians, French, Irish, Brits and Scandinavians all belong then to the predominantly NOR group. Also, it seems that Scandinavians have the highest ammount of Middle-Eastern ancestry, while Spaniards have the highest ammount of South Asian ancestry ( which makes no sense, since there has been no presence of Dravidians in Spain ).

Equating the Iberians and French to the Irish, Brits, and Scandinavians in this study is like equating the Turks to the Italians and Greeks. The Iberians have much less NOR than the Irish, Brits, and Scandinavians, being less than 50, and why they are not counted as part of the NOR group.

[Dr. Solar Wolff]

I have a suggestion. Loki, why not create a guest sub-forum at TNP, sort of a temporary membership so that people could gripe there, directly, rather than have to take out their frustrations here. A section could be set up for celebs in the cyber-world like Cosmocreator so that comments could be made directly to him and spare the remainder of us their whining.

[nemo]

How dare you!

According to the paragraph 14 of the Jawjuh convention and the 2nd Kaapstadt amendment, it is forbidden to question Loki's statements.

I'm an anarchist!