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    Post Naughty Popes

    Christ's representatives on earth!:

    Pope Adrian II (also known as Hadrian II), pope from 867 to 872, was the last married pope. He had married before he was elected pope, and refused to put away his wife Stephania when he became pope. For a while he, his wife, and a daughter lived in the Lateran Palace together. Interestingly enough, several subsequent popes, though unmarried, fathered children.


    POPES WHO FATHERED CHILDREN AFTER THE CELIBACY LAW OF 1139

    Innocent III (1484 - 1492) Several children.
    Alexander VI (1492 - 1503) 2 grandchildren were Cardinals.
    Julius (1503 - 1513) Three daughters.
    Paul III (1534 - 1549) One daughter, three sons.
    Pius IV (1559 - 1565) Three sons.
    Gregory XIII (1572 - 1585) One son.


    Leo V (903) had been pope for only a month before being imprisoned and tortured by one Christophorus, who then enthroned himself. Both men were killed in 904 on the orders of Pope Sergius III (904-911). Sergius later had a son by his teenaged mistress Marozia who became Pope John XI (931-935). In 914, according to one chronicler, Marozia's mother Theodora installed her lover on the papal throne as John X (914-928). (Theodora and Marozia effectively controlled the papacy through their menfolk and may be the source of the Pope Joan legend.) John XII (955-963), who ascended to the papacy at 19, was accused, perhaps falsely, of sleeping with his father's mistress, committing incest with his niece, and castrating a deacon.


    Perhaps the worst pope in history was Octavian, the Count of Tusculum, who was consecrated Pope John XII on December 16th, 955. On November 6th, 963, Holy Roman Emperor Otto I summoned a council, levelling charges that John had ordained a deacon in a stable, consecrated a 10-year-old boy as bishop of Todi, converted the Lateran Palace into a brothel, raped female pilgrims in St. Peter's, stolen church offerings, drunk toasts to the devil, and invoked the assistance of Jove, Venus, and other pagan gods when playing dice. He was deposed, but when Otto left Rome, John returned as pope and maimed and mutilated all who had opposed him. On May 11th, 964, he was severely beaten by the husband of a woman with whom he was having an affair, and died three days later without receiving confession or the sacraments.


    Pope Paul II (1467-71) allegedly died while being sodomized by a page boy.


    The most infamous pope in history was probably Pope Alexander VI (1492-1503) who had seven illegitimate children as a cardinal, which he openly acknowledged. As the newly-elected 61 year-old pontiff, he had an affair with the 19-year-old Giulia Farnese, who was herself a married woman.

    Pope Alexander's manners were agreeable and his appearance fascinating, but, like many other prelates of the day, his morals were far from blameless, his two dominant passions being greed of gold and love of women, and he was devoted to the children his mistresses bore him. An excellent example of the extreme levels of corruption and immorality then present in the papacy was the Banquet of Chestnuts, an episode famous in the history of pornography. The banquet was thrown in the apartment of the apostolic palazzo with, it is said, upwards of fifty prostitutes or courtesans in attendance. After the food was eaten, candles were lit and placed on the floor and chestnuts strewn about, which the prostitutes, naked and crawling were encouraged to pick up. According to the diarist Johann Burchard an orgy then ensued.

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    "Let (s)he who is without sin cast the first stone" - The Big Man

    Anyway, wouldn't you just regard them as being "progressive" Popes?

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    Post AW: Naughty Popes

    The "holiest" people are often the perversest sub-humans.
    It's not rare that priests of the church rape little boys or have gay sex with each other.

    There is only one solution: do it like they did!
    Burn them all to the ground until nothing is left but ash!

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    Post Re: AW: Naughty Popes

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr
    The "holiest" people are often the perversest sub-humans.
    It's not rare that priests of the church rape little boys or have gay sex with each other.

    There is only one solution: do it like they did!
    Burn them all to the ground until nothing is left but ash!
    There has been a consistent effort for the last couple of centuries to discredit the Church, not least of all by infiltrating it with anti-Christians.
    A woman who worked for the American Communist Party reported her role in recruiting young Communists to infiltrate the seminaries. I'm sure the rise shortly after in scandals of various kinds (sexual, theological, financial, etc) is not simply a co-incidence.

    I agree somewhat though....there should be tough penalties.
    I have always maintained that a Holy Inquisition is long overdue

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    Post Re: Naughty Popes

    Quote Originally Posted by lg
    Perhaps the worst pope in history was Octavian, the Count of Tusculum, who was consecrated Pope John XII on December 16th, 955. On November 6th, 963, Holy Roman Emperor Otto I summoned a council, levelling charges that John had ordained a deacon in a stable, consecrated a 10-year-old boy as bishop of Todi, converted the Lateran Palace into a brothel, ... stolen church offerings, drunk toasts to the devil, and invoked the assistance of Jove, Venus, and other pagan gods when playing dice.
    A rock'n'roll pope!!

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    Post Re: Naughty Popes

    Weren't there a few female Popes as well? :p

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    Post Re: Naughty Popes

    I wonder why is a Catholic confession the most attractive for assaults of scattered sects and exotic religions.
    Last edited by Übersoldat; Tuesday, September 21st, 2004 at 09:30 AM.

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    Post Re: Naughty Popes

    Quote Originally Posted by Zvaci
    I wonder why is a Catholic confession the most attractive for assaults of scattered sects and exotic religions.
    The Children of Darkness don't like the light.
    Anyway, I'm looking forward to the Naughty Ayatollahs, Naughty Rabbi's, Naughty Dalai Lamas and Naughty Athiests threads
    Last edited by Milesian; Tuesday, September 21st, 2004 at 10:15 AM.

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    Post Re: Naughty Popes

    Do not worry about this little attacks, remember the words of Napoleon:

    Advisor: I recommend you to destroy the [Catholic] Church.
    Napoleon: Impossible, nobody can destroy the Church. Even the inside members have not been able to do it.


    By the way, is very very very preferible a Pope with ten sons and twenty granchildren and a dog cosecrated as bishop, but respectful with the catholic doctrine, than a Pope without childrens, dogs, secret wife, etc, but who corrupted the catholic doctrine with his "modernist" and "liberal" ideas and destroyed the ancient traditions.
    It is better 10 Popes like Alexander VI than a only John XXIII

    Ah! The rock'n'roll Pope is Pius IX ! against all ! down with liberalism! Syllabus rules!
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    Post Re: Naughty Popes

    Quote Originally Posted by Von_Skorzy
    Do not worry about this little attacks, remember the words of Napoleon:

    Advisor: I recommend you to destroy the [Catholic] Church.
    Napoleon: Impossible, nobody can destroy the Church. Even the inside members have not been able to do it.
    Very true!

    By the way, is very very very preferible a Pope with ten sons and twenty granchildren and a dog cosecrated as bishop, but respectful with the catholic doctrine, than a Pope without childrens, dogs, secret wife, etc, but who corrupted the catholic doctrine with his "modernist" and "liberal" ideas and destroyed the ancient traditions.
    It is better 10 Popes like Alexander VI than a only John XXIII
    Again, I'm in agreement.
    A Pope like Alexander VI will be judged on his own actions. But at least he didn't condemn everyone else along with him

    Ah! The rock'n'roll Pope is Pius IX ! against all ! down with liberalism! Syllabus rules!
    I still like St Pius X, but even he looked up to Pius IX. Perhaps his coat of arms should have had "F*ck the world" as the motto
    Nice choice
    Last edited by Milesian; Thursday, September 23rd, 2004 at 01:33 PM.

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