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    Classify German Regatta Members

    From the German Olympic Regatta Team.

    Predominantly Faelid (male)? Predominantly Hallstatt (female)?
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    Post Re: Classify German Regatta Members

    Last female has some alpine features

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    Post Re: Classify German Regatta Members

    The guy looks a bit like me , the girl looks like Norda's 'Arya type'.

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    Post Re: Classify German Regatta Members

    Faelish for the male. The second female I think is towards Hallstat, though a small bit about the nose reminds me of Noric: just not that extreme. And the last reminds me more of a Keltic Nordic: a very blonde example. I'll have to cheer for her

    However, I'll only be staying up on Aug. 25th to cheer for my cousin in Weighlifting.
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    Good classification. I´m sure they come from the coast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop
    Good classification. I´m sure they come from the coast.
    They do, indeed, come from the coast. From the Marmara coast, Istanbul, Turkey.

    The gentleman is an ethnic Turk and was the flag carrier for the Turkish Olympic team in Athens, 2004. The lady is 50% Turkish and 50% Yugoslavian by ethnic origin.

    In case you watched the opening ceremony, there were quite a lot of types commonly considered "Central Nordish" in the Turkish team.

    How would you explain the presence of "Hallstatts" and "Faelids", and other "Central Nordish" types in modern Turkey (and South-Eastern Europe in general)? How could they have survived for hundreds and thousands of years, in the midsts of non-Nordish types around them, without an isolated breeding pool composed of predominantly Central Nords?

    In my view, we are here dealing really with phenotypical resemblance due to recombination of various types. Depigmentation exists, of course, amongst all Europid races. What would mean that the Nordish physical anthropology concept of the SNPA is rather worthless when judging individuals whose genealogic history one doesn't know.

    They are not Northern European ("Nordish"), far more likely than not. I also do not consider AWAR Nordish (contrary to others here), which has then been confirmed by his DNA.

    Where does this leave the Nordish physical concept, in particular the pseudo-scientific attempts of some members here to make their aesthetic and sexual depigmentation fetishism the primary criterium for sub-racial definitions?
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    Post Re: Classify German Regatta Members

    Quote Originally Posted by Tryggvi
    In case you watched the opening ceremony, there were quite a lot of types commonly considered "Central Nordish" in the Turkish team.
    Different than in Kreuzberg and Neukölln.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryggvi
    The gentleman is an ethnic Turk and was the flag carrier for the Turkish Olympic team in Athens, 2004. The lady is 50% Turkish and 50% Yugoslavian by ethnic origin.
    Interesting thing is that the people thought the two pictures of the same lady were different people.

    In case you watched the opening ceremony, there were quite a lot of types commonly considered "Central Nordish" in the Turkish team.
    I remember Volksdeutscher mentioning this on other topics, that how the upper classes -in any population- are more refined looking than the socio-culturally unfortunate classes in general. That is true for Turkey too, of course. To be competing in a sport like sailing and windsurfing one has to have the means. If you look at the weightlifting and wrestling teams in general though, you are bound to see much different types.

    In my view, we are here dealing really with phenotypical resemblance due to recombination of various types. Depigmentation exists, of course, amongst all Europid races. What would mean that the Nordish physical anthropology concept of the SNPA is rather worthless when judging individuals whose genealogic history one doesn't know.
    I agree. Depigmentation alone doesn't mean anything, however, for most people before knowing anything about physical anthropology- "blondeness" (and fairness of skin) means possible Northern ancestry. What's surprising is that there are "experts" of this subject who still think the same way.

    They are not Northern European ("Nordish"), far more likely than not. I also do not consider AWAR Nordish (contrary to others here), which has then been confirmed by his DNA.
    I agree on this one. And AWAR was right on it when he said "the guy looks kind of like me". They do indeed resemble each other partially, in fact. Southeastern Europe does have indigenous types such as this. Anyone would agree that, even though there is a lot of ethnic mixing in Turkey, especially between the European proper types in the west, the mixture is hardly ever with Northern Europeans such as Swedes, Norwegians, Germans etc. Such blondeness is usually attributed to Black Sea (Lezgi), Pomak, Bosnian or Circassian ancestry in Turkey -not to Germanic; speaking from personal experience.

    Where does this leave the Nordish physical concept, in particular the pseudo-scientific attempts of some TNP members to make their aesthetic and sexual depigmentation fetishism the primary criterium for sub-racial definitions?
    I will post yet some more photographs taken from a Turkish equaivalent of the website "Am I hot or not" (so they will be generally females). I don't know which part of Turkey most of them are from but those who have stated location were from Istanbul, Izmir (Smyrna), Ankara and a couple of Aegean region towns. I did not choose any pictures over the others and I will post them all -and not just the "Nordish" ones, but you will notice the relatively high number of those who would squeeze in for the depigmented "Nordish" type -which is rather outrageous, of course.

    I think it would be hysterical to claim possible Northern European ancestry for this many number of people:

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    Post Re: Classify German Regatta Members

    Some more

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    And yet some more. The last three are from Smyrna (Izmir) as the filenames suggest. Granted, some of the "blondes" here are surely bleached blondes, but you get the idea. If some of these individuals were posted on Skadi, TNP or any other forum for classification, I'm pretty sure they'd be "classified" as Nordish or having Nordish admixture or whatever and would be placed in Central European countries. Well, they are not.

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