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    Post Ruins of 15,000 Year Old Town in Western Sahara

    Has anyone heard anything more detailed about this find?


    Ruins Of 15,000 Year Old
    Town In Western Sahara

    Aljzeera.net
    8-20-4

    The remains of a prehistoric town dating back 15,000 years have been discovered in Western Sahara.

    The Moroccan state media on Thursday said a team of scientists stumbled across the sand-covered ruins of the town Arghilas deep in the desert of the Morocco-administered territory.

    The remains of a place of worship, houses and a necropolis, as well as columns and rock engravings depicting animals, were found at the site near the town of Aousserd in northeastern Western Sahara.

    Significant find

    The isolated area is known to be rich in prehistoric rock engravings but experts said the discovery could be significant if proven that the ruins were of Berber origin as this civilization is believed to date back only some 9000 years.

    "It appears that scientists have come up with the 15,000-year estimate judging by the style of engravings and the theme of the drawings," Mustapha Ouachi, a Rabat-based Berber historian said.

    Berbers are the original inhabitants of North Africa before Arabs came to spread Islam in the seventh century.

    The population of Western Sahara, seized by Morocco in 1975 when former colonial power Spain pulled out, is mostly of Berber and Arab descent.

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    Post Re: Ruins of 15,000 Year Old Town in Western Sahara

    I think the age is too old, for a town to exist at that time. The dating mignt be for an older archeological level before the town. Or either the date is wrong, or the town is really a Paleolithic community.

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    Post Re: Ruins of 15,000 Year Old Town in Western Sahara

    Indeed, the date the article assigns to the site would put it firmly during the last Ice Age, which I believe was still in progress c. 13,000 B.C. If it actually were a town with permanent stone-walled structures etc., that would be very inconsistent with established archeaology. Hopefully someone will attempt to carbon date the site, and determine its actual age.

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    Post Re: Ruins of 15,000 Year Old Town in Western Sahara

    Quote Originally Posted by atlanto-med
    I think the age is too old, for a town to exist at that time. The dating mignt be for an older archeological level before the town. Or either the date is wrong, or the town is really a Paleolithic community.
    I agree. For this date to stick they are really going to have to come up with alot more proof.

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    Post Re: Ruins of 15,000 Year Old Town in Western Sahara

    The sites in Palestine, where circular stone-walled houses agglomerated in villages, like Nahal Oren and Eynan(Natufian) are dated after calibration between 12000-10200 BC, despite the beginning of a sedentary life-style, there was seasonal migration within the ecological zone, prefering valleys, hill slopes and high-terrassed sites.

    North Africa was stricken by aridity in the last ice age, but desertification occured much later; in some respects, it was an intermediary bio-climatic habitat as found in epipaleolithic Palestine, creating the conditions were pemanent settlement en agriculture could dawn.

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    Post Re: Ruins of 15,000 Year Old Town in Western Sahara

    That suggests it's important to carbon-date the structures on the site. If they were actually as old as they are alleged to be, then they would be of considerable archeological significance. But without carbon-dating, the evidence for their age seems rather inconclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telperion
    That suggests it's important to carbon-date the structures on the site. If they were actually as old as they are alleged to be, then they would be of considerable archeological significance. But without carbon-dating, the evidence for their age seems rather inconclusive.

    Stone momuments are these days dated by the thermoluminiscent
    method.
    It's beyonf my capacity to explain the techniques and processus of TL-dating, but this link brings you to a page where the subject is fully set out in details:

    http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~qtls/flint.htm

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