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    Originally posted by an american saxon
    Yeah i heard something along the lines of 90% or so of our presidents have been freemasons.
    its 90$ of the people who sighned the constitution were freemasons
    george w senior was in the skull and bones
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    freemasons are very pro jewish. alot of what their order consists of is a type of ceremonial magic tha ties in with the jewish kabbalah, and fringes into other types of ceremonial magical groups, like the illuminati, the golden dawn, and the o.t.o. yes alot of our nations presidents have been freemasons and i believe that the freemasons are one of the greatest conspiracies, along with the illuminati. they have a big part in the control of our money and i believe they too are part of the problem.

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    are there any good websites exposing the freemasons and what their ideas and goals are?

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    Freemasons are a strong force but not as strong as they were in the last century.

    They were a tight and highly controlled and controllable group of business people whose group , the Masons , was held together by a hybrid Christian / Pagan ideology.

    Currently in England they are strong in the Law ( cops and lawyers ) but outside of this they lost ground since the industry which supported them has gone to Asia.

    The loss of industrial power has killed the Masons power to influence they once weilded.

    They can no longer control business since most of it is either in Jewish hands , or Asian hands. Masons were in general wealthy and white.

    In America they have little power for the same reasons , they no longer pull the strings.

    Many Temples have closed over the last decades.

    They were a force of strength and unity in the White European community. I am not a Mason , most of the men in Family are and were Masons. I was never asked .

    Again they were an important element in the white community.x_cheers

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    You should try to read some Papal Encyclicals from the period of the 17th century - early 20th century.
    The Catholic Church suffered enourmously during these times (French Revolution, Italian nationalists exiling the Pope from Rome,etc) And also many spiritual conspiracies as well as temporal and political ones.
    The Church was under no doubt that Freemasonry was responsible and during this period issued countless condemnations regarding it.

    "Humani Generis" is one I remember from the top of my head.
    It details their methods and goals. How they start bt promoting tolernace and Liberalism, then to Socialism and Athiesm,etc.

    Freemasonry frequently talks of re-building the Temple of Solomon, which certain Jews also desire. The Jewish influence in the Masonic ceremonies are obvious when studied.

    That's not to say all Masons are bad people.
    The majority belong to the first 3 degrees and most don't know that there are a further 30 degrees above that.
    The first 3 degrees are basically a centre for novices to be brain-washed into unquestioning subservience by making them swear terrible oaths and partake in bizarre rituals without understanding the meaning of it all. Those who show promise are invited to the Royal Arch (degrees 4-33).
    In fact there are real meanings behind all these ceremonies but I'm not about to go into detail. Ultimately there is an underlying Luciferian principle behind it coupled with the Cathars (who were Christian heretics, influenced by the Jews, and persecuted by the Church).

    As for America. The dollar bank note tells a lot.
    The pyramid with the Masonic eye with the words "Novus Ordo Seclorum" (New World Order). The date given is the date of the founding of the USA. The date of the founding of the NWO.
    Also, the Catholic Church (despite the warnings of Pope St Pius X) eventually fell under Masonic sway, The changes since Vatican II, especially ecumenism, reconciling with the Jews,etc are all symptomatic. Traditional Catholics like myself cannot help but notice the name of the new Mass - Novus Ordo Missae. The New Order of the Mass (not a Mass at all) to go with their Novus Ordo Seclorum.

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    Cathars? LOL. How much do you honestly know about them? They weren't "Christians" in the sense we know. They were Gnostics - built on an entirely different perspective to the bible. The Catholics were the fakes - they took power in Rome and stomped out the Gnostics wherever they were. The Knights Templar and the Cathars were both Gnostic groups. Gnosticism, for its time, was perhaps one of THE most anti-Jewish religions/subreligions in existance - they hated the idea of the Chosen ****s. Perhaps you should do some reading...? And where's evidence the Cathars were influenced by Jews? I know this because I was a Gnostic for about eight months last year (and then I went to Nietzsche...).
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    The Cathars/Albigensians were peaceful, noble people. The Catholic Church launched a ruthless campaign of extermination against them. I don't have time to recount all the atrocities of the Church just now, but suffice it to say that Christianity has done tremendous harm to Europe, regardless of whatever minor benefits it may have had.

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    I suspect I know far less about the Cathars than you do, if you were actually a Gnostic yourself.

    I agree they weren't Christian. I don't regard any heretical sect as being Christian. But the Cathars passed themselves off as Christians. The Knights Templar were Cathars and yet they succesfully managed to keep up the pretence of being a Christian military order, till their practises were discovered and the order was suppressed.

    I know the Cathars did not believe in marriage. I know they considered humans as fallen angels who could either lead a good life and regain their place in Heaven or lead a bad life and be re-incarnated to try again. All very Un-Christian as we both agree.

    As for the Catholics being the "fakes", I'm not sure what exactly you mean by that. Fakes in what way? I assume you are suggesting that like the Cathars they were passing themselves off as something they weren't. In what way did they do that?
    The Catholics didn't "take" power. The Emperor Constantine had a vision of the cross in the sky before a battle and claimed he heard the words " In Hoc Signo Vinces" (sp?) which means "By this sign you will conquer". He used the cross as his emblem and his outnumbered army won the battle. Subsequently, he became a Christian (and as the Catholic Church was the only Christian Church then, obviously he became Catholic.) He changed the official religion of Rome from Paganism to Christianity, and the Christians were no longer persecuted.

    As for stamping out the Cathars, this happened at a much later date. The church considered the Cathars to be a grave threat.
    The Cathars were very much like many cults today. They didn't believe in marriage, they were violent, the sometimes engaged in mass suicide, and they were spreading rapidly. Obviously such things were intolerable for the Church and eventually it called the Albigensian Crusdade to stamp out those who not stop.

    Freemasonry is full of Luciferian and Catharian connections.
    As Masonry is very much connected with Judaism, perhaps I just assumed that Judasim was too. The Jewish study of Kabbalism is gnostic too however. In your much more knowledgable opinion, do you believe that Catharism or Kabbalism could have been an influence on the other?

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    William Joseph Simmons of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan was a Freemason.
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    As was Albert Pike: a prominent early Klan leader, and originator of the Masonic Creed.

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