Why are SO FEW WP's pro-communist?

[Fraxinus Excelsior]

Why are WPs anti-communism?

Because "White Power People" do not wish to associate with filth like:
-RASH
-ARA

Most groups that identify themselves as "communist" are expressly anti-"White Power People".
-The South African Communist Party is is a partner in the Tripartite Alliance consisting of the African National Congress and the Congress of South African Trade Unions.
-Communist Party USA has link sections devoted solely to issues of "African-American Equality" (including "Black Radical Congress"), "Mexican-American Equality" (including la Raza), and more communist, anti-White garbage.

Maybe the question should be, "Why would anybody with an interest in White Preservation want to associate with 'communism'?".

[Deling]

And National Socialism doesn't really need any Marxism, even though I appreciate National-Anarchist/National-Communist streams if they have a clear Nationalist position.

Ideologically, and nowadays politically, Communism is the anti-thesis of nationalism and inequality. It got nothing to do with NS.

However, I admire some Communist states, like the Chinese and North Korean, and even Cuba in some aspects, but these states has little to do with the Left-wing/anti-globalisation movements in the Western world.

NS doesn't need merger with Communism, but dogmatics should go away and fresh-thinking resurface. This is a postmodern world, after all.

[Stríbog]

I'd like to hear LadyGoeth's response to this. Personally, I think economic and social equality is as much of a pipe dream as racial equality.

[Evolved]

Most White people do not want to associate with White Power because it is a black hole, a negative space created in the 1960s as a response to and mockery of Black Power movements, hippies and progressives. It is still to this day devoted to such negativity. Rather than positive representation of Whites people focus "otherism" and on negative representations of other races. Also the minority-dominated media gives it all a bad presentation, although some of the actual people involved make it look bad as well. (While looking at some of the images of obese, heavily tattooed and otherwise dysgenic people from a forum such as Stormfront, how can anyone be convinced that Whites should be supreme?)

My belief in regard to the pro-White (blanket term) movement is only one of White Love, meaning I love my ancestors and family members more than I love someone else's, as is natural. I personally do not believe in White Power (which I take to mean White Supremacy, which is not even a fact; White political/cultural domination over other races, which has been racially and culturally disasterous for all parties involved), White Pride or any notion that an individual can take credit vicariously for the accomplishments of his/her ancestors. Accomplishments are the product of both ability and circumstances. People criticise such and such a country/region for not producing as many geniuses, monumental works, etc as if this apparent lack of high culture is representative of the people's intelligence or ability. What they forget is any of the intelligent, able people had no creative outlet in the times of serfdom beyond folk crafts and such things, and that for most of European history literacy and higher education were reserved strictly for the most wealthy.

Furthermore, your race is a matter of biology and is completely out of your hands - it is either something ordained by creative forces of the universe or, if you prefer, of totally random chance. Had you been born a Negro you would be proud of that, had you been a Mestizo, you woud be proud of that, etc. It makes no sense, therefore, to hate someone for something they had no choice over. Just because you love your own people does not mean you must hate others. Truely pro-White people are anti-racist.

I am against racism. Racism is not the same as racialism. As I stated in another thread, I feel closer to normal working class blacks, mestizos, Asians than I do to White capitalists like George Bush, Dick Cheney, Kenneth Rice, Bill Gates, etc. So race is not the supreme and only criterion of value for me.

I broke with CPUSA their policy of support for affirmative action, federal hate crime legislation and other garbage. CPUSA is a heavily infiltrated organization of people whose ideology is based less on actual Communism and more on contravening whatever they perceive to be "right wing."

[Sword Brethren]

4) We support abortion rights and reproductive freedom. ARA intends to do the hard work necessary to build a broad, strong movement against racism, sexism, anti-Semitism, homophobia, discrimination against the disabled, the oldest, the youngest and the most oppressed people. We want a classless society. WE INTEND TO WIN!


http://www.aranet.org/about.php




Classeless society is a communist ideal!

Most of the people opposed to white racialism are simply communist swine.

[Sword Brethren]

I'd like to hear LadyGoeth's response to this. Personally, I think economic and social equality is as much of a pipe dream as racial equality.

The jewish communism and marxism failed to become very popular with the white working class. So instead of eliminating class, they made the goal eliminating race (our race) and spread communism throughout the non-white groups.

[Abby Normal]

A magnificent tour de force, lg, if I do say so myself! I wrote most of this last night but didn't have time to post it until now:



So, why don’t ‘WPs’ favor Communism? Well, did you ever notice how the biggest supporters of capitalism are unemployed bums? It seems the situation is similar, and to a more extreme degree, with the corporativist economy favored by Fascism and its sister-ideology, National Socialism (if you can't see where I'm going with this by now, you probably have the numbers 14 and 88 in your signature). By not supporting Communism, 'WP' people are just screwing themselves over, as they are typically the type to only be able to pay the rent on their double-wide through generous government welfare payments.

As I’ve said before, 'trash' is a stream that runs both ways when it comes to political fringe movements. Sure, you can post pictures of scummy-looking Communists, but I could easily do the same with pictures of 'WPs' (alas, Deconstructionist has already done this so well). Indeed, there are 'WP' people who I would not allow to step into my backyard to take out the trash - and speaking of taking out the trash, perhaps that's what your movement needs to be doing, in terms of its membership, rather than its usual incessant ranting about the Jews. No Jewish conspiracy is pervading enough to singlehandedly turn 'white pride' folks into 300-pound greaseballs who change their clothes once every three months. (Likewise, the capitalist class is not entirely to blame for the sorry state of some Communists - but the point is that as a 'white pride' supporter, you're not one to talk!)

Interesting theory: I've long suspected that many forms of Nationalism and racialism (as currently manifested as 'white pride') are merely a deception carried on by the elite (okay, to make it seem plausible to you, the Jews) to keep the focus of their generally lower-class supporters away from the economic matters which undoubtedly affect their lives more than the state of their ethnic identity. For an example, look no further than the nationalism combined with corporativist economics supported by Fascism.

[Deling]

"Favoring Communism" is rather vague, isn't it? By Communism, do you mean the economic system (which in reality only was 'poor man's tool' in forming non-European nations after the break-up of colonial empires), or the classwar/anti-Capitalist ideologies, or that Communist nations (even former) is ethnically homogenous?
On the other hand, one could wonder why Communism is seen as such a malice. Perhaps because Communism is just a word, defining all world evils, or because of the egalitarian principles inherent in Marxism and it's Enlightenment rationalism.

Perhaps it's just a question of values. A WN or nationalist who's obsessed with the idea of freedom, democracy and free enterprise; ideas originating in Rationalism, is perhaps not so fond of Communist totalitarianism, and of course he doesn't like Communism because it's mainly non-'White', and the 'Whites' who are Communists are multi-ethnical Rationalists.

Even Nationalists with ultra-conservative values doesn't like Communism, because of its Enlightenment/Rationalist nihilism. I guess the Western Nationalist thought and the global Communist thought are incompatable, except in the political real world.

Even though, the most NS-looking nations on earth is China and North Korea, and has there been more fierce nationalists in the second half of the 20th Century than the Vietnamese communists?

I've noticed that European nationalists are more willing to hold positive views on nations like China, North Korea. And supporting the Vietnamese resistance during the Vietnam war. All because of a disgust for America.

So I believe it's a matter of culture, world events, where you live and...values...that determine how Nationalists view (some) of the different shades of Communism (the ideological, the political, the historical realities of it).

Traditional corporativism is a sort of Communism, originating from a different historical aspect and different value traditions.

[Grimr]

Why should we have to involve ourselves with any other political structures other than White Nationalism?

[The Dagda]

Why should we have to involve ourselves with any other political structures other than White Nationalism?

White Nationalism is not a political structure, you can be a democrat, National Socialist, Monarchist, National Bolshevik or almost anything else and still be WN.
National Bolsheviks are just Communists that are racially aware.