Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 34

Thread: Why are WPs anti-communism?

  1. #1
    Account Disabled on Request
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Last Online
    Friday, January 8th, 2010 @ 08:32 AM
    Ethnicity
    Dutch
    Subrace
    Alpinid
    Country
    United States United States
    State
    Lappland Lappland
    Gender
    Family
    Married
    Posts
    3,345
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5
    Thanked in
    5 Posts

    Question Why are WPs anti-communism?

    What have White Power people against COMMUNISM? I am speaking not historically but ideologically.

    Forget for a minute WP types' love of Nazis (side note: is odd for WP Slavs or even people of partial Slav descent to have anything to do with Nazism, whether actively involved in National Socialist activism or sitting idly by while their people are ridiculed). I will never, ever be NS, NS-sympathizer and never care about Nazis beyond respect for their unique aesthetic (the swastika is not even German, the goosestep is not even German, the uniforms and such are just alterations of earlier designs, the HEIL posture is not specifically German and actually borrowed from the Italians..) and their abilities on the battlefield (at times), and my love for my boyfriend (who is a Nazi) that is a cold hard fact. I have totally different ideas from Nazis, I have discovered while looking deeper into different political ideologies over the years. Furthermore, the Nazis considered a big part of my ancestors to be inferior, worthy of nothing but slavery, deportation from their homelands and death. Another part they considered "non-European race on European soil" (i.e. the Lapponoid race, to which I peripherally have a phenotypical affiliation). So, I will never be a Nazi, I have no interest in it, as it is a short-sighted idea applicable only to a certain place (Germany) and time (1930s). It is in the dustbin, a total dead, useless ideology which is only meaningful in a historical context and never a modern one.

    So, besides the Nazi fetish of many WP types, what causes their hatred of COMMUNISM (which is not short-sighted, is well-thought out, and applicable to all people at all points in time)? Of course the connection to JEWS or people of some Jewish ancestry such as Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin (to my knowledge Friedrich Engels was not Jewish) is not a good selling point. However these people seem to overlook the Jewish connection to European culture in the form of Christianity which is much more Jewish in origin than Communism.

    Another problem many have with COMMUNISM is the unfortunate association with degenerates, bored teenaged yuppies, angry minorities (like the cocoa colored anti-white capitalists of Rage Against the Machine, for example) and assorted dirty hippies - people who have hijacked COMMUNISM to give themselves some sort of purpose in life, and in doing so drive away many normal working class people - of all races.

    Another problem facing both Nazis and Communists in their search for converted comrades: Who wants to be associated with losers?

    Many, including myself, take issue with the aforementioned hijacked so-called COMMUNIST organizations is their racist, transparent and insulting pandering to and coddling of minorities - especially their mind-boggling support for racist policies of Affirmative Action (which assume that blacks need extra help getting admitted to higher education institutions because their academic merits are not enough to do so, and the racist assumtion also that white people are in control of school admissions and that said white people are all automatically deemed to be racist).

    If there were a communist movement of the White working class, cooperating with that of other races, respectful of differences and seeking to maintain harmonious societies, how is this terrible? Why must WP be right wing?

  2. #2
    Senior Member Oskorei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Last Online
    Sunday, December 14th, 2008 @ 05:15 PM
    Ethnicity
    Swedish
    Subrace
    Tydal/Litorid/Nordid
    Country
    Sweden Sweden
    Location
    Gothenburrah
    Gender
    Politics
    Identitär
    Religion
    Indo-europeisk Traditionalist
    Posts
    2,172
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Post Re: Why are WPs anti-communism?

    Maybe because Communism emphasises class-unity before ethnic unity (well, to be honest I think you are right about many WP:s being Nazi-fetischists, and this being the primary reason though, but a "deeper" reason would be class- before ethnic- unity). Also, Communism is an egalitarian ideology, in which all have equal worth, and often this is not the case in WP ideologies.

    But then again I dont think its impossible to be left wing (economically) and racialist (culturally). Personally I'm rather close to Anarchism, since I think this is, in its pure form, the most worthy ideology for Aryans.

  3. #3
    Senior Member Oskorei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Last Online
    Sunday, December 14th, 2008 @ 05:15 PM
    Ethnicity
    Swedish
    Subrace
    Tydal/Litorid/Nordid
    Country
    Sweden Sweden
    Location
    Gothenburrah
    Gender
    Politics
    Identitär
    Religion
    Indo-europeisk Traditionalist
    Posts
    2,172
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Post Re: Why are WPs anti-communism?

    As far as I can remember, there were attempts to create different ethnic Communists organizations in Russia in the beginning, but this attempt was later stopped because of the "unity of the working-class". The Jewish Bundists comes to mind, trying to be both Communists and building and keeping their Jewish culture and identity.

    IMO this was a more honest strategy than posing as Russians, and leading Russian proletarians (when in reality it was a case of a Jewish clique taking over Russia). However, the Bundist strategy wouldnt have been as succesful from a power-realist point-of-view, so its obvious why it was stopped and the leading Bundists got in trouble.

  4. #4
    Account Disabled on Request
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Last Online
    Friday, January 8th, 2010 @ 08:32 AM
    Ethnicity
    Dutch
    Subrace
    Alpinid
    Country
    United States United States
    State
    Lappland Lappland
    Gender
    Family
    Married
    Posts
    3,345
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5
    Thanked in
    5 Posts

    Post Re: Why are WPs anti-communism?

    George W. Bush is a White man, I feel closer to normal, working-class non-niggerish blacks than I do to him. This is one of the many reasons I do not become active in pro-White organizations.

  5. #5
    Senior Member Oskorei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Last Online
    Sunday, December 14th, 2008 @ 05:15 PM
    Ethnicity
    Swedish
    Subrace
    Tydal/Litorid/Nordid
    Country
    Sweden Sweden
    Location
    Gothenburrah
    Gender
    Politics
    Identitär
    Religion
    Indo-europeisk Traditionalist
    Posts
    2,172
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Post Re: Why are WPs anti-communism?

    I feel closer to niggerish blacks than I do to Bush. At least they are alive, while he is a spiritual Jew and a brain-washed robot.

    Then again Bush is hardly pro-White.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Last Online
    Tuesday, July 26th, 2005 @ 03:22 AM
    Gender
    Posts
    766
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Post Re: Why are WPs anti-communism?

    Quote Originally Posted by lg
    Many, including myself, take issue with the aforementioned hijacked so-called COMMUNIST organizations is their racist, transparent and insulting pandering to and coddling of minorities - especially their mind-boggling support for racist policies of Affirmative Action (which assume that blacks need extra help getting admitted to higher education institutions because their academic merits are not enough to do so, and the racist assumtion also that white people are in control of school admissions and that said white people are all automatically deemed to be racist).
    It is curious that such supposedly Communist groups promote the affirmative-action programs espoused by liberal multiculturalists, when they are supposedly anti-liberal themselves. In effect, their policies promote divisions and antagonism between working class groups, when you'd think that from their standpoint they would want to promote working class unity against the authorities.

    Many members of these Communist groups probably think that supporting affirmative action is a Communist ideal, since it involves promoting equality between groups, irrespective of unfairness to individuals. Still, if the leaders of these Communist organizations actually promote affirmative action for this reason, then they have a very weak grasp of political strategy and tactics.

    I think it's rather likely that so-called Communist groups were long ago infiltrated by the authorities, and are manipulated into implementing a divide and conquer strategy that pits those who might oppose the status quo against each other, alienates the average person, and thereby serves the interests of established power. The same is probably true of many WP groups.

    If there were a communist movement of the White working class, cooperating with that of other races, respectful of differences and seeking to maintain harmonious societies, how is this terrible? Why must WP be right wing?
    Strictly on the level of ideology, Communism adheres strictly to the idea that all races are inherently equal in their potential and capabilities, and that inequalities between them are due to environmental and cultural influences which will be eliminated in the future communist society. These ideas are incompatible with white supremacy, which (generally speaking) is one of the core principles of WP groups. WP groups might still otherwise adhere to economic programs that are more collectivist or socialist than market-oriented. If WP groups did not adhere to the notion of white supremacy, they would probably find a program of the sort you have outlined more attractive.

  7. #7
    Senior Member Oskorei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Last Online
    Sunday, December 14th, 2008 @ 05:15 PM
    Ethnicity
    Swedish
    Subrace
    Tydal/Litorid/Nordid
    Country
    Sweden Sweden
    Location
    Gothenburrah
    Gender
    Politics
    Identitär
    Religion
    Indo-europeisk Traditionalist
    Posts
    2,172
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Post Re: Why are WPs anti-communism?

    A note about Affirmative Action: a real Communist would base this sort of program on class and not on race. As it is now, it mostly helps an already advantaged colored bourgeoisie, and totally misses the White proletaryans.

    This would also be a good opportunity for real Communists to bring up the question of capitalism and exploitation, which is still controversial, instead of the accepted BS about "racism".

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Last Online
    Tuesday, July 26th, 2005 @ 03:22 AM
    Gender
    Posts
    766
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Post Re: Why are WPs anti-communism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oskorei
    A note about Affirmative Action: a real Communist would base this sort of program on class and not on race. As it is now, it mostly helps an already advantaged colored bourgeoisie, and totally misses the White proletaryans.
    That's a good point, which relates back to the point that affirmative action is a liberal project that supports the status quo.

  9. #9
    Senior Member Oskorei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Last Online
    Sunday, December 14th, 2008 @ 05:15 PM
    Ethnicity
    Swedish
    Subrace
    Tydal/Litorid/Nordid
    Country
    Sweden Sweden
    Location
    Gothenburrah
    Gender
    Politics
    Identitär
    Religion
    Indo-europeisk Traditionalist
    Posts
    2,172
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4
    Thanked in
    4 Posts

    Post Re: Why are WPs anti-communism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Telperion
    That's a good point, which relates back to the point that affirmative action is a liberal project that supports the status quo.
    True. The reason probably is to create ethnic bourgeoisies where such does not already exist, to help rule the different ethnic groups in a multi-culti corporatist society.

    They know from experience that when race and class overlaps 100%, the situation easily gets explosive.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Last Online
    Saturday, February 5th, 2005 @ 01:44 PM
    Subrace
    Nordid
    Country
    Other Other
    Location
    ?
    Gender
    Occupation
    ?
    Politics
    Progressive Aryan
    Religion
    Progressive Aryan
    Posts
    753
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Post Re: Why are WPs anti-communism?

    Why does White survival have to revolve around any form of politics? Don’t get me wrong I am not particularly against right or left I just think they are quite irrelevant.

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. National Communism
    By Taras Bulba in forum Political Theory
    Replies: 97
    Last Post: Sunday, October 18th, 2009, 10:02 AM
  2. Communism is anti-homo!
    By Evolved in forum Political Theory
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: Monday, June 21st, 2004, 10:36 PM
  3. Your Views Regarding Communism?
    By Ederico in forum Political Theory
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: Tuesday, December 30th, 2003, 08:03 AM
  4. Anarcho-Communism
    By Ederico in forum Political Theory
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: Tuesday, December 23rd, 2003, 07:36 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •