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    AW: Re: German North America

    Quote Originally Posted by Georgia
    My question is: What are y'all doing about your problems?
    I don´t know if this is meant as a critic of the National Resistance in Germany or a serious question. I can tell you that, besides America-bashing on internet forums, there are many initiatives that are aimed at recreating a national consciousness among Germans again, often carried out under serious personal risk.
    So far much of what I have read in the forum, especially in the German posts, is a "hatred" against everything that is "American." And this hate is directed not just toward the U.S. government, but against the Bevoelkerung as well, since we are, among other things, nothing but a "Dreckvolk."
    Those who identify with the US. No one else.

    There are millions of people living in what is known as the U.S., descendants of the Germanic people and others, who do NOT agree with what the U.S. government has done in the past nor what it is doing today.
    Then why do they still identify with the system and wave its flag?

    I do not wish for America to be reduced to another Third World country nor do I wish for America's destruction. Becoming a Third World country would of course be our demise.
    So you think calling back your worldwide occupation troops, puppet governments and plastic culture would turn the US into a Third World country?
    Tolerance is a proof of distrust in one's own ideals. Friedrich Nietzsche


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    Re: German North America

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    Re: AW: Re: German North America

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop
    Quote Originally Posted by Georgia
    There are millions of people living in what is known as the U.S., descendants of the Germanic people and others, who do NOT agree with what the U.S. government has done in the past nor what it is doing today.
    Then why do they still identify with the system and wave its flag?
    As a US citizen of Germanic ancestry, who strongly identifies with the United States' governmental system and proudly waves its flag, but who does not agree with many of the actions of the government, I feel qualified to answer this question.

    I have a great deal of faith in the system and structure of the United States as established by our 1787 Constitution (and as appropriately amended). I believe that that system and that structure are most conducive to liberty, which is one of the things I most value. I believe that we can return to the fundamentals of that system. I am optimistic that such a return will occur.

    I believe that most of the ill we have done us a country is due to betrayal of those fundamentals — betrayals that began as early as the first decade of the Republic, and that have steadily continued. That does not mean that the fundamentals are ruined or worthless because of the traitors' actions — it means the traitors are ruined and worthless.

    I believe that the name of the United States of America and the flag of the United States of America rightly belong to the system established by the 1787 Constitution. I honor and cherish that political system, so I honor and cherish its emblems.

    I believe it is the traitors who are wrong to use those emblems for their own twisted purposes. I hate seeing the destroyers of our system use the flag or the name of the United States of America to further their own sick ends. I believe they have no right to use those emblems when they spend all their time trying to dismantle the beautiful system that those emblems represent. They do not even understand the concept encoded in the name the United States of America — how can they be justified in using it?

    I do not believe that I should be forced to abandon my love for my country and its founding principles simply because people who command a larger television audience abuse my country and its founding principles. Should I stop using my name and the name of all my fathers if I become a victim of identity theft? Better to keep the name and rid myself of the criminal. Let them work their hardest to destroy our country — I will continue to work my hardest in its defense. It is my fervent hope that, in the end, they will show themselves not to have broken the firm foundation of the country, but only to have broken themselves upon it.

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    AW: Re: AW: Re: German North America

    Quote Originally Posted by Leofric
    I believe it is the traitors who are wrong to use those emblems for their own twisted purposes. I hate seeing the destroyers of our system use the flag or the name of the United States of America to further their own sick ends. I believe they have no right to use those emblems when they spend all their time trying to dismantle the beautiful system that those emblems represent. They do not even understand the concept encoded in the name the United States of America — how can they be justified in using it?
    Okay, where are the German-Americans who publicly protest against these traitors? Aren´t you guys always pointing out the freedom of speech over there? Political prosecution is extreme in Germany but still there are many pro-German demonstrations each year, for example Dresden, Halbe, Wunsiedel etc. Never heard of anything like this happening in the land of the free.
    If you don´t go against them, you go with them.
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    Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: German North America

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop
    Okay, where are the German-Americans who publicly protest against these traitors? Aren´t you guys always pointing out the freedom of speech over there? Political prosecution is extreme in Germany but still there are many pro-German demonstrations each year, for example Dresden, Halbe, Wunsiedel etc. Never heard of anything like this happening in the land of the free.
    If you don´t go against them, you go with them.
    For you to have heard of such a thing, not only would this thing have to occur (which it does, in my experience, though assuredly more is desirable) but you would also have to learn of its occurence through personal and/or mediated experience. It is this last which apparently does not happen. This may be the fault of our own infotainment, or yours, or both. Indeed, the ownerships of mediabusiness do not seem to be restricted to national borders these days.

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    Re: German North America

    Zyklop
    I don´t know if this is meant as a critic of the National Resistance in Germany or a serious question.


    When it comes to matters of importance I am dead serious!


    Zyklop:
    I can tell you that, besides America-bashing on internet forums,


    America-bashing has become the number one "Sport" by many. I don't think I have to spell out the name of the group which is mostly responsible for this character assassination. They have learned well from their enemy.


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    there are many initiatives that are aimed at recreating a national consciousness among Germans again, often carried out under serious personal risk.


    Good! Perhaps they need to do more so they wont have so much time wishing for the demise of America. One could say that those who laugh last have the best laugh. I happen to believe that 'They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.'




    Zitat from Georgia:
    So far much of what I have read in the forum, especially in the
    German posts, is a "hatred" against everything that is "American." And
    this hate is directed not just toward the U.S. government, but against
    the Bevoelkerung as well, since we are, among other things, nothing but a "Dreckvolk."

    Response from Zyklop:
    Those who identify with the US. No one else.


    This is NOT TRUE! And you know it!


    Zitat from Georgia:
    There are millions of people living in what is known as the U.S.,
    descendants of the Germanic people and others, who do NOT agree with what the U.S. government has done in the past nor what it is doing today.

    Response from Zyklop:
    Then why do they still identify with the system and wave its flag?
    For the same reason that Germans identify themselves as BRD citizens and fly the BRD flag. The results of years of indoctrination via the Public School System and the Talmudian Press.


    Zitat from Georgia:
    I do not wish for America to be reduced to another Third World
    country nor do I wish for America's destruction. Becoming a Third World
    country would of course be our demise.

    Response from Zyklop:
    So you think calling back your worldwide occupation troops, puppet
    governments and plastic culture would turn the US into a Third World
    country?
    You have taken my response totally out of context and are trying to
    misrepresent its meaning. Brings back memories about the Clintonesque style.


    The American forefathers gave "Americans," whether of German or other European ancestry, a constitutional republic.These united States of America began its national career on the stunningly elevated principle that men's rights come not from government, but from their God. No greater bulwark against political tyranny ever existed anywhere. This republic became a great country in a very short period of time.
    A constitutional republic HAS PROVEN TO BE the best form of government. I believe that most patriotic Americans would agree.

    Yet, the evil of this world would not stand for this!
    So the attacks started.....1861, an almost fatal blow.
    The second one was the 13th and 14th Amendment (neither one of them were ever legally ratified). They all but nullified the 9th, 10th and 11th Amendment.
    And I could go on........and on.........We are living in perilous times.

    Despite all of this, the spirit of liberty is still found among so many "American" people. America will survive despite all the ill wishes. I am sure of it.
    Georgia

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    AW: Re: German North America

    Quote Originally Posted by Georgia
    Good! Perhaps they need to do more so they wont have so much time wishing for the demise of America.
    Although I´m sure you´re an expert on the national resistance in Germany by occasionally peeping in the German section here, the suggestions by non-Germans may not necessarily be taken in consideration.

    One could say that those who laugh last have the best laugh. I happen to believe that 'They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.'
    I can´t make anything out of this oracle. Is it a threat?
    For the same reason that Germans identify themselves as BRD citizens and fly the BRD flag. The results of years of indoctrination via the Public School System and the Talmudian Press.
    I´m not talking about the average yokel but those who actually should know better. Especially among the so called "White-Nationalists", or Germanic preservationists.

    The American forefathers gave "Americans," whether of German or other European ancestry, a constitutional republic.These united States of America began its national career on the stunningly elevated principle that men's rights come not from government, but from their God. No greater bulwark against political tyranny ever existed anywhere. This republic became a great country in a very short period of time.
    A constitutional republic HAS PROVEN TO BE the best form of government. I believe that most patriotic Americans would agree.

    Yet, the evil of this world would not stand for this!
    So the attacks started.....1861, an almost fatal blow.
    The second one was the 13th and 14th Amendment (neither one of them were ever legally ratified). They all but nullified the 9th, 10th and 11th Amendment.
    And I could go on........and on.........We are living in perilous times.

    Despite all of this, the spirit of liberty is still found among so many "American" people. America will survive despite all the ill wishes. I am sure of it.
    Georgia
    Cool!
    Tolerance is a proof of distrust in one's own ideals. Friedrich Nietzsche


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    Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: German North America

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyklop
    Okay, where are the German-Americans who publicly protest against these traitors? Aren´t you guys always pointing out the freedom of speech over there? Political prosecution is extreme in Germany but still there are many pro-German demonstrations each year, for example Dresden, Halbe, Wunsiedel etc. Never heard of anything like this happening in the land of the free.
    If you don´t go against them, you go with them.
    Well, I can't speak for the German Americans, because I am not German. I also think from your response that you might be talking about a different kind of treason than the treason I was talking about. I was talking about betraying the Constitution — treason against a country. You seem to be talking about treason against a nation. I don't follow the internal matters of the German nation in all its locations very closely.

    I do, however, follow the struggle to protect and restore the Constitution quite closely. And in that struggle, there is a great deal going on. There are various political parties dedicated to restoring the supremacy of the Constitution (some of which I support financially and through volunteer service). There are many other organizations working toward the same end (which I similarly support). There are many rallies and meetings (which I attend). There are many publications (which I help distribute). There is a ground-swell of grassroots support — and by ground-swell, I mean millions of people — for the whole movement (of which I am a part, and which I seek daily to propagate). Even a few of the folks in the United States' Congress are active members of the movement to restore the supremacy of the 1787 Constitution.

    Some of this gets C-SPAN coverage (usually on weekends and on the 'extra' C-SPAN channels). None of it gets mainstream media coverage. From what I have gathered, most urban folks here in the States don't even know it's going on (even though it happens in the cities, too). I am not at all surprised that news of all this activity has not crossed the oceans.

    But I can assure you that there is a great deal being done to fight against the traitors, even if you happen to have not heard of it.

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    Re: German North America

    Zyklop:
    I can´t make anything out of this oracle. Is it a threat?
    Threat?
    Dictionary definition of the word threat:
    An expression of an intention to inflict pain, injury, evil, or punishment.

    I don't understand how a well-read man like you could come to such a conclusion. I have never threatened anyone in my entire life, though I have been threatened at times by others. But this is classified information just as my "peeping" (your word, not mine) "occasionally into the German section here."

    Greetings from the great State of Georgia - Georgia
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    I don't know what path your life took to bring you to the States at the tender age of 18. However, I have to say, that when my mother would talk about "Amis", I always knew that she never meant me. Yes, I was born in the USA.

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