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  • They must be assimilated, to make loyal Lebensborn Germanics out of them. Take their mothers, sisters, daughters to make Germanic Lebensraum.

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  • They are Honorary Germanics and fine tributary peoples in satellite states. Their proxy participation is key for indirectly advancing Germanic interests.

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  • They must be partitioned and recombined between proper metaethnic Celt, Roman and Uralic collectives, keeping purity in Germanic separatism.

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  • Other--Explain your position: i.e. Yes or No for this or that non-Germanic metaethnos and why, or have an opinion on other metaethnic relationships.

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Thread: Mixed Germanic States Poll

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    Mixed Germanic States Poll

    Germanic occupies mixed states with Celtic, Romance, Uralic:

    Ireland, Belgium/Luxembourg/Switzerland, Finland

    What ought to be done about them?

    The uploaded map shows Red for Germanic, Purple for Germanic and Centum or Uralic, Blue for Centum and Uralic, Gold for Satem and Georgian, Grey for Turkic. It's obvious that there is no Orange, for there is now no overlap between Centum & Satem. There are instead, overlaps between Centum & Turkic, Satem and Turkic, which occasions lighter shades of Turquoise and Yellow.

    Centum & Satem ought to overlap more than either with Turkic separately. It appears that Turkics have driven a wedge between West & East. We must fight back by coordination of efforts.
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    Belgium, Luxembourg and Switzerland are artificial, multiethnic/multicultural states. They aren't real nations. However their system kept the ethnicities fairly separate for a while. Only the Swiss Germans, Luxembourger Germans and the Flemish are Germanic and should each ideally join their motherlands. The Flemish as far as I know most of them consider themselves irredentists and really Dutch. Luxembourgers are, like Austrians and Swiss Germans just another regional variety of Germans. Luxembourgers, like Swiss Germans and Austrians have this strong regional pride but unfortunately it conflicts with pangermanism because it is based on rejecting German identity. It's stronger in Swiss Germans, they are often anti-German. They consider themselves "superior" and discriminate against Germans. This artificial mentality would need to change if they want to be part of a German alliance.

    Finland is not Germanic except for the area inhabited by the Finland Swedes. Obviously, the Finland Swedes should ideally join Sweden.

    Ireland is not Germanic, any Germanic element inherited from ages ago is minute there. They have a strong Celtic identity which is also anti-Germanic. There are only a few Germanic people in Northern Ireland, who are really ethnically Scots.

    From the options I chose the partitioning according to ethnic lines. So for example the Flemish part of Belgium would join the Netherlands while the Walloons join France. What should not happen however is the assimilation of non-Germanics. The first option in the poll is actually against the principles of this board.

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    Thanks! The American approach is quite similar to what SpearBrave says about being pan-Germanic, however, there are different levels of interest involved between 1st quasi-Celtic English, 2nd quasi-Romance Dutch and 3rd quasi-Uralic Swedish. Basically, all types of Germanic can fit within this spectrum, but whether or not those whom are associated with the non-Germanic types can be dealt with along those options in the poll, largely depends on the individuals. Because America is mostly English, Irish follow, afterward the Dutch may be followed by Belgians, Luxembourgers and Swiss, thereafter, Finns trail Swedes.

    The challenge is to push for more German and Danish, Ingaevonics central to British identity, although Austrians and Liechtensteiners, Norwegians and Icelanders, more peripheral, definitely have a role to play. Since the Celtic issue is largely under control in the centre of metaethnic identitarianism, all of the more peripheral Germanics ought to outweigh the invasions by Romance (such as Italians and Mexicans, Filipinos, etc) and Uralic (Estonians and Hungarians hardly feature) nations. Furthermore, while America doesn't have a big Satem population to match the Alaska Purchase, we do have a large amount of Negroes to ward off. If not Slavs, there are Slaves.

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    Belgium, Luxembourg and Switzerland are artificial, multiethnic/multicultural states. They aren't real nations. However their system kept the ethnicities fairly separate for a while. Only the Swiss Germans, Luxembourger Germans and the Flemish are Germanic and should each ideally join their motherlands. The Flemish as far as I know most of them consider themselves irredentists and really Dutch. Luxembourgers are, like Austrians and Swiss Germans just another regional variety of Germans. Luxembourgers, like Swiss Germans and Austrians have this strong regional pride but unfortunately it conflicts with pangermanism because it is based on rejecting German identity. It's stronger in Swiss Germans, they are often anti-German. They consider themselves "superior" and discriminate against Germans. This artificial mentality would need to change if they want to be part of a German alliance.

    Finland is not Germanic except for the area inhabited by the Finland Swedes. Obviously, the Finland Swedes should ideally join Sweden.

    Ireland is not Germanic, any Germanic element inherited from ages ago is minute there. They have a strong Celtic identity which is also anti-Germanic. There are only a few Germanic people in Northern Ireland, who are really ethnically Scots.

    From the options I chose the partitioning according to ethnic lines. So for example the Flemish part of Belgium would join the Netherlands while the Walloons join France. What should not happen however is the assimilation of non-Germanics. The first option in the poll is actually against the principles of this board.
    1) Celtics are worth the Lebensborn Germanic program, because even the Ghaeltacht in Ireland is mixed country and all that's left of the resistance, while it is within written historical records that Celtics and Germanics have a joint ethnic origin in the Rhineland, among the Belgian tribes who ended up leaving for Britain to get away from Caesar, before leaving there once again and founding Brittany. There is too much overlap on all levels, to extricate one from the other and would actually just be defeatist, letting the Celtics win and the Romans take over them instead--one more enemy to deal with.

    2) Uralics are worth the Honorary Germanic status, as perpetual tributaries and satellites of our metaethnos, going back to Antiquity and recorded by Tacitus--who also said Caledonians were kin to Germans and Britons to Gauls, when Estonians, Finns, Kvens and Lapps lived in Germania. I would like to dislodge the Balto-Slavic ingrained power structure in the Northern world and the key to do that, is by a Germanic alliance with their demands for autonomy in all the lands from Scandinavia to Siberia. I would concede Finnmark/Lappmarken to them in exchange for a permanent alliance.

    3) Romance have to be partitioned, so the status quo ante-Empire, ante-Völkerwanderung can be restored. Had Caesar & Augustus not invaded the Celtic & Germanic homelands, Karl & Otto would not have become corrupted by the tribes who fused with Roman society. If metaethnic cleavage can be enforced, Flanders, Elsass-Lothringen and Brittany could be sliced off of the French map. If Luxembourg is "Germanic", that sidesteps how the Grand Dukes are French and 1/3 of the languages are French; the Channel Islands are stuck in the same Limbo. Greeks, Romans and Basques belong together.

    4) Gypsies belong in their Iron Curtain homeland of Satem Indo-Europeans, which includes Georgia. Turkics can be defeated in Anatolia by a pincer move coordinated by Greek Cypriots on one hand, Russian Kazakhs and Russian Kyrgyz on the other, against Turks and Azeris, Turkmen and Uzbeks. Georgians, Armenians, Iranians, Afghans and Tajiks can attack them from behind. Knights of the Hospital ought to resume rule of Semitic Malta in order to bring it back to the Vatican and Italy, just as Andorra belongs to the Vatican and France. Whites deserve free reign to enforce the peace out there.

    Yiddish Ashkenazim & Ladino Sephardim ought to be deported to Israel and maybe even Carthaginian Tunisia--Lebanese are just Arabs. Satem I.E. probably would want to dissolve the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. I did not realize this until last week, but Kurdish is now co-official with Arabic in Iraq, thereby making it mixed Aryan and potentially assimilated by Iran, although any one of those options 1-4 may be elected to deal with that issue by them also. I remember that Iraq was going to be divided between Kurdistan, Sunnis and Shiites, but this must have been the practical result in 2004.

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