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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Rentz View Post
    The Nürnberg Laws should be adapted to the US and the minorities found here.
    This is sheer fantasy! White European descended people in the USA in 2012 were reduced to just 63% of the national population (US Census Bureau). Bearing in mind that was 6 years ago it will now be below that figure, possibly below 60%. 60% of the population cannot enforce racial laws on everybody else. It is way too late-you have gone past the tipping point. What awaits you now is further decline where you will just be another minority. Apart from that there is no political will for such extreme measures, nevermind the capacity to bring your fantasies to fulfilment. Daydreaming about another country (Germany) in another age (1933-1945) will not go anywhere to solving your problems in 21st century USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wuotans Krieger View Post
    This is sheer fantasy!
    No shit Sherlock. Think I don't know that? We are way past the point of no return with issues such as this. I'm glad I won't be around for the latter part of this century to see how this mess plays out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Rentz View Post
    No shit Sherlock. Think I don't know that? We are way past the point of no return with issues such as this. I'm glad I won't be around for the latter part of this century to see how this mess plays out.
    Then perhaps you need to pull your socks up, shake off your obvious depressive mood and do something positive in your life because you project an extremely negative persona which accomplishes absolutely nothing.

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    This makes a lot of sense and with the population boom, this could soon be a very serious discussion. But if you analyze the whole population conundrum, it is the post colonial countries, majorly Asian (rabidly in South Asia), African and Middle East facing overpopulation. Population in Japan and Europe is already on the decline. How will these post-colonial countries divided on religion, sects, caste, language and some with authoritarian tendencies have a rational, just, and effective license system? Those in power would definitely try to use this as a reason to improve the population of their sects causing more violence and bloodshed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoey View Post
    This makes a lot of sense and with the population boom, this could soon be a very serious discussion. But if you analyze the whole population conundrum, it is the post colonial countries, majorly Asian (rabidly in South Asia), African and Middle East facing overpopulation. Population in Japan and Europe is already on the decline. How will these post-colonial countries divided on religion, sects, caste, language and some with authoritarian tendencies have a rational, just, and effective license system? Those in power would definitely try to use this as a reason to improve the population of their sects causing more violence and bloodshed.
    I would admit that for a long time I would have introduced forced sterilization of drug addicts and alcoholics who do not lend themselves to rehabilitation, sociopaths and pedophiles. Children in families where such individuals are present are exposed to systematic violence in 95%. It breaks the psyche, it's generally bad. The child is not guilty that he is born in such a family, he does not ask for it. But if the state knowingly allows such people to give birth and torture children, this should not be so.

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    lol no, very terrible idea, especially in these times. This sounds like a very Judisch thing to suggest, and I'm surprised that even they haven't come up with this yet (at least to my knowledge). It just goes against Nature and would undoubtedly backfire on you. Overpopulation is a danger, because of the sheer number of non-whites; give these licenses to them if you can (like that'll ever happen or work).

    Here's an excerpt from Uncle Adolf's Mein Kampf, in which he writes about overpopulation (I'm not 100% sure if this correlates to the topic, but still an interesting read):


    It was possible to adopt the French example and artificially restrict the number of births, thus avoiding an excess of population.

    In certain circumstances, in periods of distress or under bad climatic conditions, or if the soil yields too poor a return, Nature herself tends to check the increase of population in some countries and among some races, but by a method which is quite as ruthless as it is wise. She does not impede the procreative faculty as such; but prevents the further existence of the offspring by submitting it to such tests and privations that all but the strongest and healthiest are forced to retreat into the bosom of the Unknown.

    Whatever survives these hardships has been tested and tried a thousandfold, hardened and rendered, fit to continue the process of procreation, so that the same process of selection will begin all over again.

    By thus, dealing brutally with the individual and recalling him the very moment he shows that he is not fitted for the trials of life, Nature preserves the race and the species and raises it to the highest degree of efficiency.

    The decrease in numbers therefore implies an increase in strength as far as the individual is concerned, and this eventually means the invigoration of the species.

    The case is different when man himself starts the process of numerical restriction. Man is not made of the same stuff as Nature; he is ‘human.’ He knows better than the ruthless Queen of Wisdom; he does not impede the preservation of the individual but prevents procreation itself.

    To the individual who always sees only himself and not the race, this line of action seems more humane and just than the opposite way, but unfortunately, the consequences are also the reverse.

    By leaving the process of procreation unchecked and by submitting the individual to the hardest preparatory tests in life, Nature selects the best from an abundance of single elements and stamps them as fit to live and carry on the conservation of the species.

    Man restricts the procreative faculty and strives obstinately to keep alive at any cost whatever has once been born.

    This correction of the Divine Will seems to him to be wise and humane, and he rejoices at having trumped Nature’s card in one game at least and thus proved that she is not entirely reliable.

    This little ‘masterpiece’ made by the Almighty does not like to be told that, although he has succeeded in limiting numbers, his system leads to degeneration in the quality of the individual, for, as soon as the procreative faculty is thwarted and the number of births diminished, the natural struggle for existence, which allows only healthy and strong individuals to survive; is replaced by a sheer craze to ‘save’ feeble, and even diseased, creatures at any cost.

    Thus are sown the seeds of a human progeny which will become more and more enfeebled from one generation to another, as long as Nature’s will is scorned. If this policy is carried out, the final result will always be that such a nation will eventually terminate its own existence on this earth; for, though man may defy the eternal laws of procreation for a certain period, vengeance will follow sooner or later.

    A stronger race will oust that which has grown weak, for the vital urge, in its ultimate form, will burst asunder all the absurd chains of this so-called humane consideration for the individual and will replace it with the humanity of Nature, which wipes out what is weak in order to make room for the strong.

    Any policy which aims at securing the existence of the German nation by restricting the birth-rate robs it of its future.

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    For me to trust a system like this, there would have to have already been such a total shift in politics and culture that it was no longer necessary.

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    The young chairman of the Flemish social-democrats has recently contoversially argued for prohibiting (sterilizing?) certain dysfunctional parents, after they've proven themselves to be useless parents. I can think of arguments against implementing such measures, but would it really be so bad to sterilize the criminally insane, the mentally deranged or the worst of lowlifes? Those whom are by definition unfit to have children?

    Of course, if you're the (adult) child of such parents yet happy and well today, you may feel very different about this matter. You'll say the gift of life was still worth it for you and others - and such a policy of sterilization is a way of saying people like you shouldn't even have existed. And that can be hard to stomach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    The young chairman of the Flemish social-democrats has recently contoversially argued for prohibiting (sterilizing?) certain dysfunctional parents, after they've proven themselves to be useless parents. I can think of arguments against implementing such measures, but would it really be so bad to sterilize the criminally insane, the mentally deranged or the worst of lowlifes? Those whom are by definition unfit to have children?
    This is a sane idea. such creatures simply cannot give children a happy and fulfilling childhood. Most children grow up to be alcoholics and drug addicts, or follow the path of their parents. only a few, having gone through 9 circles of hell, are able to break this vicious circle and start life anew.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    Of course, if you're the (adult) child of such parents yet happy and well today, you may feel very different about this matter. You'll say the gift of life was still worth it for you and others - and such a policy of sterilization is a way of saying people like you shouldn't even have existed. And that can be hard to stomach.
    This is a great success and, as for me, heroism on the part of these people - to survive hell and become a full-fledged member of society. But it was enough for them to make the wrong choice once - and they would repeat the life of their unlucky parents. As for me, it is better not to be born at all than to suffer all childhood and try to escape from these circumstances.

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    Overpopulation is a real problem especially in Third World countries. A South African woman, Sithole, just gave birth naturally to 10 babies, decuplets, who all survived in good health. The other two records of women came from Africa, with octuplets and nonuplets. These cases did not involve IVF or fertility drugs supposedly. Whites do not need fertility reduction laws since we've naturally brought down the birth rates as we relocated to cities and introduced birth control. Whites usually have a higher investment in their children and prefer smaller families with pressuring economics.

    About alcoholics, there are many well adjusted adults who lived with an alcoholic parent and end up contributing to society and families in productive ways. They still want to be born. Unfortunately, adult children of alcoholics learn difficult lessons early on, but that does not make them "defective' or develop a personality disorder. Alcoholism can "skip" a generation too. If you have a family with 8 children, one may develop alcoholism, yet the other seven children did not. In one home, I have also seen two alcoholic parents with 4 children who all suffer now from alcoholism. Once a child of an alcoholic parent leaves home, they can enjoy a higher quality and fulfilling life as they control alcohol or abstain completely by choice. More severe alcoholics tend to have less children because of not marrying, serving prison time, being homeless, or dying earlier from accidents. Years ago, US did sterilize the criminally "insane" and severe mentally ill or mentally challenged, usually wards of the state.

    In Europe, Russian, Estonians, Lithuanians, Hungarians, Belarus, and Norway tend to have higher rates of alcoholism. Our rates have been dropping in Western Europe, maybe with less children born, tougher laws and expenses, and higher standards of living.

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