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    Vikings Were Not Nazis, Anti-racists Tell Swedish White Supremacist Groups

    A Live Action Role Play (LARP) group in Sweden is campaigning to halt the neo-Nazi appropriation of Viking symbols.

    Runes and other ancient Viking iconography have long been associated with the Nazism, by groups who use them to propagate the myth of white ethnic purity and supremacy.

    Larpers in Sweden have formed Vikingar Mot Rasism (VMR, or Vikings Against Racism) in order to combat the far-right hold over Viking heritage.

    "Viking enthusiasts get mistaken for racists and Nazis all the time, and we're very uncomfortable with that. White nationalists don't get to reinvent what Viking culture is," Solvej von Malmborg, a VMR member, told the Local.

    The group protested the neo-Nazi Nordic Resistance Movement (NMR) along with thousands of other counter-demonstrators as the group attempted to march through Gothenburg.

    The VMR spent time explaining to other anti-racists activists the difference between Viking heritage and neo-Nazi symbols.

    Ms von Malmborg continued: "When a symbol becomes too closely connected with a racist movement, it becomes theirs – it belongs to the racists and eventually, using it can be seen as a form of inciting racial hatred. Then the symbol is removed from common cultural use."

    The NMR uses an arrow-shaped ‘Tyr-rune’ against a green background as its logo.

    The rune represented the Norse god of war, Tyr, and its shape is believed to be related to the North Star. It was also used by a Nazi SS division.

    Other Viking iconography has been used extensively by the far right since the Nazis used them to express their fetishisation of perceived strong ancient and ethnically pure cultures, like the Vikings and Romans.

    The Odal rune was part of the Runic alphabet and used by Vikings to denote inherited estate. But it used by the Nazis to symbolise their central concept of ‘blood and soil’.

    The Waffen SS used runes extensively, including the ‘Sig Rune’ – originally representing the sun – which formed their logo.

    The VMR formed after they noticed more racists attending Viking-themed events several years ago. Ms von Malmborg said their presence was contrary to the inclusive atmosphere of Larp.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7987716.html

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    Vikings lived in a time when it wasn't all about ideology, I think times were a lot harsher than they are today. As such they will have been neither 'racists' nor 'anti-racists' at least by textbook definition.

    What is howevever clear: Any nation, any ethnicity, any people up until about the 1970s completely understood what it means to be a nation for its own sake. They'll have been respectful towards other nations but wherever they had a say, it will have been their culture dominating everyday life and they will have had ordinary, sensible defense-mechanisms in place to make sure it quite stayed that way.

    (Considering this very natural preservationist drive is these days construed as 'racism' perhaps Vikings were however 'racist' like every other documented folk in human history... )

    I actually find this multicult venom being spouted happening in a lot of 'Heathen' Facebook groups, too. People who will always stress how 'tolerant' Vikings supposedly were. Yea, perhaps they had a position to be 'tolerant' because they had an intact Leitkultur and weren't being replaced in their own countries.

    If every town had their 'quota' single Muslim family and perhaps another two mixed families, even most of us 'hardliners' wouldn't care as much because we'd be able swallow even that over the generations on a cultural level certainly and even possibly on a genetic level like we swallowed the odd Saracen in the medieval or the Dumas family later on. Fact is however, they're taking over fast and these really, really miniscule levels have long been overstepped.

    When the only Muslim or Negro you'll meet in a lifetime is a friendly tradesman on errand that neither settles nor brings half his continent with him, there is obviously much more scope to be accepting or 'tolerant' of his presence than when they're all quickly outbreeding us on our own soil and the more extreme thereof are bombing the whole place to smithereens to add to it.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

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    An archeologist acquaintance had to this to say in relation to the Swedish "archaeologist" who claimed that the vikings used kuffic, but also relevant here:

    "Another rabbit hole one can go down: hrímþurs is conventionally translated "Frost giant", a term I don't like as it stresses a sort of elementalism to Norse mythology which is otherwise by no means self-evident. However, that spectrum of the mythology is frequently associated with ugliness, darkness, primitivity and lack of technology. The word hrím has another meaning beyond frost: Soot. I'll leave others to do the math on that one...

    The expectations Norse society had towards individuals were hihgly "genetic" in some regards."

    Norwegian historian and writer Kim Njardar: ""In Richard Coles paper; Racial Thinking in Old Norse literature, he states that: "Dark complexions in general were often distrusted by Icelandic authors, being seen as ugly or suggestive of loutishness, impudence or malevolence." And that "...The proposition that dark skin had universally negative connotations in Old Norse seem to be in accord with the image of the blamaðr. A survey of Old Norse-Icelandic literature revals none who is particularly pleasant..."

    We must assume that some of this view of dark skinned people would have been common also among the Scandinavians in the Viking Age, although Snorri and his contemporaries are much influenced by European literature and "racial" thinking.""

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    "A Live Action Role Play (LARP) group in Sweden is campaigning to halt the neo-Nazi appropriation of Viking symbols. " - Maybe lefties should stop appropriating and bastardising their native tradition that they clearly don't actually care about.

    Perhaps we should be campaigning to halt the autistic larper appropriation of "Viking" i.e. tribalist i.e. "nazi" symbols so they can have an outlet for their ridiculous nerdy insecurities.

    Paganism isn't fantasy, it's culture, and it's our culture. If you don't like how "racist" our culture is go and larp as harry potter instead.

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    The use of Runes is not exclusively attestable to Viking. Runes have been used in the majority of European lands.

    To make a claim that NS misappropriated Runes from Vikings is a non-starter.

    The Runes have been used the longest in Skandinavia and most literature is based on knowledge given from Scandinavian sources. But that's all.

    Hitler himself for example used the name Wotan in his poems, not the Scandinavian version Odin.

    Same with German Balder versus Baldr

    One also has to understand that part of the Edda is based on German sources and is not Scandinavian in origin.

    In the end there is no clean cut division to keep the two version apart, they are closely related in culture.

    The whole drama about NS use of Germanic heritage comes from leftist heathen who practice same sex marriages, accept homo-sexuality and other gross misconception of Germanic ancient culture. Their problem is that ancient Germanic people haven't been multi-cultural and spread unconditional love around.

    That NS revived Germanic culture is a problem for them as NS did it in a most powerful way.

    From my point of view to combine ancient Germanic culture with cultural Marxism, which was created by non-Germanic people is preposterous. It is a very hostile corruption, to blend a traditional way of life with an ideology which wants to destroy it, is only working for people who are mentally challenged.

    And if NS would have used 'Scandinavian' Runes, then so what.

    Do the cultural Marxist had a copyright on them or what?
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    Symbols are constantly being adapted by organisitions - take the rainbow, once a symbol of beauty now a sign that you are homosexual.

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