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    Well, Žoreišar, if you apply this logic then the generations before the Boomers got themselves into two insane wars against Germany and the Millennials all have gender issues.

    The Hart–Celler Act to which you refer was in 1965 when I was 7 years old. Most Boomers would have had no idea what it entailed and if you asked them today I'm sure that barely 5% have ever heard of it. I certainly hadn't until now!

    The www is a great place to dig up obscure stuff like this and then then advise everyone on what they should have done. As the recent (non-)Brexit shows, governments don't listen anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    Well, Žoreišar, if you apply this logic then the generations before the Boomers got themselves into two insane wars against Germany (...)
    Yes, they did. If we're talking about the average soldier, I can't really blame them much, considering the information that was available to them, and the freedom of choice they were presented with. As for the elites in charge, they certainly should be regarded with great contempt.

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    (...) and the Millennials all have gender issues.
    I think it's important to make a clear distinction between all and pointing out general trends within that group. Sure, a lot of Millennials do have gender issues, and they should own up to that and sort their shit out. Likewise, I don't hold individual Boomers responsible for the large socio-political upheavals during their time. But it's hard to not notice the general trend.

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    The Hart–Celler Act to which you refer was in 1965 when I was 7 years old. Most Boomers would have had no idea what it entailed and if you asked them today I'm sure that barely 5% have ever heard of it. I certainly hadn't until now!
    People might not have heard about the specific act, but they must have noticed all the millions of brown people suddenly showing up at their shores?

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    The www is a great place to dig up obscure stuff like this and then then advise everyone on what they should have done. As the recent (non-)Brexit shows, governments don't listen anyway!
    And as the Yellow Vests have shown, the answer is large scale protests and some elbow grease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    And as the Yellow Vests have shown, the answer is large scale protests and some elbow grease.
    Hell, you Englishmen even have experience with this yourselves, when you held the streets for days (and weeks?) to free Tommy Robinson. Now keep doing it again, and again, and again.
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    As a millennial I don't place much thought into this. I see the far majority of people as unintelligent followers period and boomers are no exception. You also cannot change the past, only here and now.

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    As a generation boomers really messed up and they refuse to admit it. They double down, because god forbid you reject their values, it would be like a personal rejection to them. And they're never going to take responsibility for ruining western civilization. For boomers it's our civilization which has to be wrong, not them. They vilify a past we can sadly only enjoy now by watching black and white movies, a past which we'll never experience in the presence. Boomers are permanently stuck in an Oedipean tragedy, forever rebelling against their fathers - they're a bit like Satan in that regard.

    A handful of all the things wrong with Boomers:

    They're the first generation which is not truly wiser than its children, they are bad mentors, they remained too much like children themselves. They broke with a tradition of hierarchical parenting and of course that doesn't work. Children and parents are not equal - your children are not your friends - you can't approach them like that when they're young.

    Boomers didn't get the brainwashing right the first time with gen X, which is a quiet generation which refuses to rock the boat, not unlike the silent generation which preceded the boomers, but they found the right template by the time millennials came along - the dumbest generation of all time, yet boomer media will call them the most educated ever. It's much more pleasant to talk to a silent and easier to convince them of supporting the radical right than a millennial, they grew up in a society which was in practice rather ethnonationalist and definitely conservative. You're basically suggesting a vision of their youth to them. Boomers on the other hand have issues with the way they were brought up. Sure, there are slightly rightwing boomers - but they're overwhelmingly cuckservative - apparently they don't have a problem becoming a persecuted minority in their own country as long as it happens legally. The videos they watch are those of the likes of Ben Shapiro - and the stale, old, cringeworthy dad and mom memes they keep dumping on your Facebook timeline are known as "boomer memes"!

    They became home owners early on in life, when jobs were plenty and competition both on the job market and especially in the work space were hardly an issue - boomers filled their pockets when their hair turned grey, then received a golden handshake and retired early - thus abandoning the rest of the community.

    The only redeeming trait boomers have as a generation is that they at least stood/stand for something ...we can't even begin to muster their youthful enthusiasm, but we did inherit boomer's cynicism - cynicism that came partly about after their own disillusionment with flower power.

    Ultimately their legacy is black as the night - whatever they believed in caused all of us to live on isolated islands of our own, alienated from normalcy - without God, community, soul or purpose - and surrounded by hostile foreigners in our own towns.

    However, I think it's important to always keep Spengler in mind when we talk about the decline of our civilisation, boomers nor Jews nor feminists or whomever caused it - the decline of the West didn't start in the Sixties but half way the 19th century, when the first signs of decay emerged, and for which our growing comfort and living standards were to blame. Europe was at the zenith of its power though, so the decline could still be masked until WW1.
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    Chlod, I agree with some of that but there are a lot of misconceptions about Boomers and their era - especially by those who don't know them!

    One such misconception is that they were all hippies but I was born in ’58 and obviously (as with about 40% of other Boomers) had nothing whatsoever to do with the hippies, flower power and all that stuff. In fact, this didn’t last for very long and by the time I hit my teens it had disappeared completely – I don’t even recall seeing a hippie!

    The 'Boomers' I knew back then (although this term didn't come into force until years later) all had a right-wing mentality and in my hometown of Leicester the National Front was hugely popular. The NF, even to this day, still speaks of reviving the 'glory days of the Seventies' so I just don't see where these perceptions of everyone being a laid-back leftie come from It was mainly the Boomers who voted to leave the EU as well!

    As for the economic conditions ...

    They became home owners early on in life, when jobs were plenty and competition both on the job market and especially in the work space were hardly an issue - boomers filled their pockets when their hair turned grey, then received a golden handshake and retired early - thus abandoning the rest of the community.
    WRONG!!! (..in the majority of cases).

    I left school to work in a hosiery mill but the Pakis - who didn't have unions and whose 'sweat shops' were illegal (but largely ignored!) - undercut the local workforce and closed down the whole knitting industry in Leicester. Because of the unemployment rates I cleared off to France and spent 3 years selling donuts (summer) harvesting grapes (autumn) hotel work during the winter and I even had a stint on a nightclub door in Toulon at one point so anyone who tells me you could just pick a job for life and wait for your pension to arrive is way off the mark!

    I won't even mention the house that I lived in until I was 11, except to say that today it would be considered unfit for human habitation!

    One thing I will concede is that houses were cheaper back then and I think this is where a lot of resentment comes in from younger people. You still needed to pay mortgages for 25 years (or longer!) but they were at least affordable, whereas now they're inviting in millions of third-worlders just to keep prices artificially high for the big investors and that's regrettable, but are the Boomers uniquely responsible for this? Like I say, we got lucky with the timing re. property but millennials (for example) have had the Internet from birth and nearly all of them drive a car because these things now come as 'standard', along with cable/satellite TV and many other 'essentials' ...

    Believe me, Chlod, I hate some of the smug, selfish b*st*rds of my own generation as much as you do but they're not all well-off and the youngsters I see around here seem to be outspending most of them quite comfortably

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    I think it's counterproductive to point fingers of blame at entire generations. What's true enough is that both boomers and "the greatest generation" were utterly without any form of immunity to the subtle propaganda being fed to them to make them what they were. You will find the dying "greatest generation" soldiers STILL hating the Germans as they were told to do.

    You will also notice that the "boomer" generation began at the same time as television descended upon us with its unfiltered Jew-think. Children are sponges... they soak up what they are exposed to. If they or their parents don't know any better, they will watch what appear to be wholesome TV shows but be subtly poisoned by the subtexts and the manner in which ideas are framed. And they will become unwitting zombies employing critical theory to trash all traditional culture. All it took was a little nudge from (((prominent figures))) given their prominence by other (((prominent figures))) who worked behind the scenes, and all the social conditioning went into effect. Sure, not EVERYONE was affected, but in a "democracy," you only need 51%...
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    In 1949, my dad and I watched a television set in a store window, needless to say that the pictures were full of "snow" flakes. He said to me a 13 year old, son this is no good this generation will be guided into a new direction who knows where. Looks like he was right. He died the following year. I'm 82 and seen it all. What's next? The digital world has done a lot of damage already. Sheople no longer think for themselves..................

    The "Woodstock" generation is now in charge..........I keep saying it over and over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan
    WRONG!!! (..in the majority of cases).
    It depends on where you lived and when you came of age as a boomer, my boomer mother had a harder time finding a job because of the oil crisis of 1973 than the Flemish young adults from the Sixties whom took part in the rebuilding the country after two world wars - the U.K. was the sickman of Europe - I can imagine that times were harder for English boomers when compared to their American/continental counterparts.

    I know that most boomers were not fullblown hippies, just like most millennials aren't full blown SJWs - and that British boomers voted for the Brexit - I've credited them with that before on this forum - it's a great thing, but it happened in a specific context (the UK in general isn't fond of the EU and your nominally center right party has many otherwise cuckservative backbenchers who support a brexit, there is no other place in Western Europe where this is the case - so it's a British boomer exception) and Brexit is still served to us in a boomery PC-way - just think of how Farage, its prime proponent, will do anything in his power to prevent UKIP becoming more nationalist. My point is: supporting brexit was never outside the realm of the possible for English boomers.
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    Is Nigel Farage even a Boomer? I'm not sure when this period began and ended but he was born in '64 so he's borderline at best.

    Anyway, a nation should not be judged by its politicians because they seldom represent the real people and the British system is rigged in such a way that you have to choose the least mediocre of the candidates on offer. When 12.6% of the Brits (..that's 1 in every 8!) voted UKIP they got just one elected MP out of 650 so the whole thing is a complete farce

    But coming back to this idea of collective responsibility that some posters are trying to push (eg. 'it happened on your watch'), I wonder what they'll be saying in 30/40 years from now when all the Boomers are gone? I mean, in what practical and concrete ways are they resisting the tyranny of political correctness today and how successful has this been?

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