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    Hitler on "Great Russia" (from ch. XI of Hitlers Zweites Buch)

    Hitler on "Great Russia"

    from ch. XI of Hitlers Zweites Buch

    transcribed by Mr. Outis

    ...In general, it seems self-evident in national circles that we cannot very well ally ourselves with a Jewish-Bolshevist Russia since the result, according to all probability, would be a Bolshevization of Germany. Obviously, we do not want this. But we base ourselves on the hope that one day the Jewish character - and thereby the most fundamentally international capitalistic character of Bolshevism in Russia - might disappear in order to make place for a national communism, anti-capitalist on the world scale. Then Russia, permeated once more by national tendencies, might very well come up for consideration in terms of an alliance with Germany.

    This is a very great error. It rests on an extraordinary ignorance of the psyche of the Slavic folk-soul. This should not amaze anybody if we reflect on how little knowledge even politically-minded Germany had of the spiritual conditions of her erstwhile allies. Otherwise we would never have fallen so low. If, therefor, today the national politicians in favor of friendship with Russia try to motivate their policy by reference to Bismarck's analogous attitudes, they disregard a whole multitude of important factors which at that time, but not today, spoke in favor of Russian friendship.

    The Russia which Bismarck knew was not a typical Slavic state, at least insofar as it was a question of the political leadership of the same. In general, Slavdom is lacking in state-forming forces. In Russia especially government formations were always attended to by foreign elements. Since the time of Peter the Great there were, above all, very many Germans - Balts! - who formed the skeleton and the brains of the Russian state. In the course of centuries countless thousands of these Germans have been Russified, but only in the sense in which our own bourgeoisie, our national bourgeoisie, would like to Germanize or Teutonize Poles or Czech s. Just as in this case the new-fledged "German" is in truth only a German-speaking Pole or Czech, likewise did these artificial Russians remain German, or better, Teutons, according to their blood and hence their capabilities. Russia is indebted to this Teutonic upper stratum for her political state as well as for what little exists of her cultural value. A great Russia would neither have arisen nor would she have been able to preserve herself without this really German upper and intellectual stratum. As long as Russia had been a state with an autocratic form of government this upper stratum, which in truth was not at all Russian, also decisively influenced the political life of the gigantic empire. Even Bi smarck knew this Russia at least in part. It was with this Russia that the master of German political statesmanship had politcal dealings. But even in his lifetime the reliability and stability of Russian policy, both domestic and foreign, fluctuated precariously and became in part incalculable. This lay in the gradual suppression of the German upper stratum. This process of the transformation of the Russian intelligentsia was caused in part by a bleeding of the Russian nation in consequence of many wars, which, as had been already mentioned in this book, primarily decimate the racially more valuable forces. Actually the officer corps especially was for the most part non-Slav by descent, but in every case not of Russian blood. On top of this came the slight increase in the upper stratum of the intel ligentsia as such, and finally the artificial training by the schools of a real Russiandom with regard to blood. The slight state-preserving value of the new Russian intelligentsia as such was grounded on blood and revealed itself most sharply perhaps in the nihilism of the Russian universities [1]. Most fundamentally, however, this nihilism was nothing but the blood-determined opposition of real Russiandom to the racially alien upper stratum.

    The Pan-Slavic idea was counterposed to the Russian idea of the state in proportion as Russia's Teutonic, state-forming upper stratum was replaced by a racially pure Russian bourgeois class. From the first hour of its birth it was folkish, Slavic and anti-German. The anti-German disposition of the newly emerging Russiandom, especially in the strata of the so-called intelligentsia, however, was not only a pure reflex action against the former autocratic alien upper class in Russia, for instance on the grounds of politically liberal modes of thought. Rather, in the most intrinsic sense, it was the protest of the Slavic nature against the German. They are two folk souls which have only very little in common, whereby indeed it must first be established whe ther this littleness they have in common has its cause in the confusedly broken racial individual elements of which the Russian as well as the German people seems to be constituted. Thus what is common to us and to the Russians is as little consonant with the German as with the Russian character but, instead, is to be ascribed only to our mixture of bloods which has brought about just as many eastern Slavic elements in Germany as Nordic German ones in Russia. But if as a test of the two spiritual endowments we were to take a purely Nordic German, from Westphalia let us say, and place a purely Slavic Russian opposite to him, an infinite chasm would yawn between these two representatives of the two peoples. Actually the Slavic-Russian people has always felt this and has therefore always had an instinctive antipathy toward the German. Solid thoroughness as well as the cold logic of sober thought are something which the real Russian inwardly finds unsympathetic and in part even incomprehensible. Our sense of order will not only find no reciprocal love but will always elicit aversion. What with us is felt as something self-evident is for the Russian an affliction, since it represents a restriction of his natural, differently-structured spiritual and instinctual life. Hence Slavic Russia will feel itself drawn more and more to France. And indeed to an increasing degree, since the Frankish-Nordic element is also being suppressed in France. The facile, superficial, more or less effeminate French life was more able to fascinate the Slav because inwardly it is closer to him than the severities of our German struggle for existence. Hence it is no accident if Pan-Slavic Russia waxes politically enthusiastic over France, exactly as the Russia n intelligentsia of Slavic blood found in Paris the Mecca of its own needs for civilization [2].

    The process of the rise of a Russian national bourgeoisie at the same time caused an inner alienation of this new Russia vis-ˆ-vis Germany which now could no longer build on a racially related Russian upper stratum.

    As a matter of fact already at the turn of the century the anti-German orientation of the representatives of the folkish Pan-Slav idea was so strong and its influence on Russian policy had grown to such an extent that even Germany's more than decent attitude vis-ˆ-vis Russia, on the occasion of the Russo-Japanese war, could no longer check the further estrangement of the two states. Then came the World War which to no little extent had also been kindled by the Pan-Slavist agitation [3]. The real governmental Russia, insofar as it had been represented by the erstwhile upper stratum, therefor could hardly put in a word anymore.

    The World War itself then brought about a further bleeding of Russia's Nordic German elements [4], and the last remains were finally extirpated by the revolution and Bolshevism. It was not as if the Slavic race instinct had deliberately carried out the struggle for the extermination of the former non-Russian upper stratum by itself. No, it had acquired new leaders meantime in Jewry. Jewry, pressing toward the upper strata and therefore toward the supreme leadership, has exterminated the former alien upper class with the help of the Slavic race instinct [5]. Thus it is a quite understandable process if Jewry has taken over the leadership of all areas of Russian life with the Bolshevik revolution, since by itself and out of itself Slavdom is altogether lacking in any organizi ng ability and thereby also in any state-forming and state-preserving power. Take away all the elements which are not purely Slavic from Slavdom and it will immediately succumb to disintegration as a state. To be sure, fundamentally any formation of states may at first have its innermost inducement in the encounter between peoples of a higher and lower order, whereby the bearers of the higher blood value - for reasons of self-preservation - develop a definite community spirit which first allows them the possibility of an organization and a rule over inferior peoples. Only the overcoming of common tasks compels the adoption of organizational forms. But the difference between the state-forming and the non-state-forming elements lies precisely in the fact that the formation of an organization for the preservation of their stock vis-ˆ-vis other types becomes possible for the former, whereas the non-state-forming incompetents are not capable by themselves of finding those organiz ational forms which would guarantee their existence vis-ˆ-vis others [6].

    Thus present-say Russia or, better said, present-day Slavdom of Russian nationality, has received as master the Jew, who first eliminated the former upper stratum and now must prove his own state-forming power. In view of the endowment of Jewry, however, which after all is only destructive, it will operate even here only as the historical "ferment of decomposition". It has summoned to its help spirits of which it can no longer rid itself, and the struggle of the inwardly anti-state Pan-Slav idea against the Bolshevist Jewish state idea will end with the destruction of Jewry [7]. What will then remain will be a Russia as insignificant in governmental power as she will be deeply rooted in an anti-German attitude. Since this state will no longer possess a state-preserving upper stratum anchored anywhere, it will become a source of eternal unrest and eternal insecurity. A gigantic land area will thus be surrendered to the most variegated fate and instead of stabilization of relations between states on Earth a period of the most restless changes will begin.

    Thus the first phase of these developments will be that the most different nations of the world will try to enter into relations with this enormous complex of states in order to thereby bring about a strengthening of their own position and intentions. But such an attempt will always be linked to the effort also to exert their own intellectual and organizational influence on Russia at the same time.

    Germany may not hope to come up for consideration in any way during this development. The whole mentality of present-day and future Russia is opposed to this. For the future an alliance of Germany with Russia has no sense for Germany, neither from the standpoint of sober expediency nor from that of human community. On the contrary, it is good fortune for the future that this development has taken place in just this way because thereby a spell has been broken which would have prevented us from seeking the goal of German foreign policy there where it solely and exclusively can lie: territory in the East.

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    Post Re: Hitler, the Slav-hating monster!

    Dr. Jim Saleam comments:

    The Second Book by Hitler revealed the Hitlerian political psychosis in full flood. It cannot be legitimised by a reference to Yockey in Imperium (Russia will always be an enemy of the West as long as these populations are organised as a political unit), as this was a view Yockey himself repudiated (see The Enemy Of Europe and note his relationship with Remer).

    The Hitler analysis was shallow. I agree with some generalities. Russia received a minority leadership in 1917 (not just Jews). But it is clear this was overturned. Hitler concedes that was possible. Indeed in secret conversations in late 1940, early 1941, he accepted Stalin had disposed of 'Jewish bolshevism', a point which means he certainly didn't go to Russia as an anti-communist. He considered Germany had certain needs for resources which was true enough, although one could dispute the way to get them. Obviously, Hitler went to Russia as an imperialist. Was Russia his enemy?

    Even Dostoyevskyan type nationalism shows that the Slavophile type regarded Europe as a 'enemy' only in certain cultural ways, not a total enemy. Indeed, the Dostoyevskyan Russia "loves every stone". I find the idea of dividing Europeans into absolute concrete blocks ridiculous - particularly now. Hitler sought to divide them and pronounce one (particular) section of the white race - untermensch. On that I must agree with General 'Panzer' Meyer: "whoever conjured this shit should be sent to a concentration camp."

    What of the doctrine of 'expansion in the East'?, asked Rupert. Indeed. Hitler's war plan (sic) showed he never intended to conquer all of the Soviet Union. He intended to seize up to the Volga/Archangel line. Then what? A frontier war of a 100 years, he speculated. This was not a plan. Given he failed to raise Europe to revolution, even that was contingent on German military power. So what was Barbarossa? Obviously, a leap into unreality, a subject I will return to in a later e-mail.

    The idea of a struggle for existence inspired many in the earlier period. "The anti-Hitlerians are, of course, horrified by that reasoning", said Rupert. The idea of imperialism sounds fine. I would argue the reverse. Imperialism is not strength but in the end sickness. We whites pay the price now of all imperialism.

    The matter of the German invasion of the East is the crux upon which nutzi lunacy should be dealt with. If we run the clock back, it is clear the White Racial Civil War (Slavs v Germans) caused the crisis of the white race (if I can be so 'racist") under which we now live. That is the sort of fact Yockey would demand we observe. It was therefore indefensible.

    I shall write again soon and I hope the List takes up these points.


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    Post Re: Hitler, the Slav-hating monster!

    Indeed in secret conversations in late 1940, early 1941, he accepted Stalin had disposed of 'Jewish bolshevism', a point which means he certainly didn't go to Russia as an anti-communist. He considered Germany had certain needs for resources which was true enough, although one could dispute the way to get them. Obviously, Hitler went to Russia as an imperialist.
    Exactly my point.

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