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    Defend Europe - Nationalists in the Mediterranean

    "Defend Europe" is an activist group formed by German "Identitäre Bewegung", they've chartered a ship and now patrol the mediterranean sea for invaders from North Africa and those who use this route from elsewhere to enter Europe.

    Several NGOs plus EU's socalled "Frontex" currently serve as traffickers for those illegal migrants, rather than bringing them back to Africa, they're shipped over and loaded off at the shores of mainly Greece, Italy, Spain and France. Despite emerging reports that Frontex and/or NGOs even have direct contact with the original traffickers, tell them where their nutshells (one really cant call that even boats) will go, so that they can pick up the invaders, the practice continues.

    IB also had already organised the "we are the border" events when the streams of migrants marched with police/soldier guards through the Balkan route.

    Paypal blocked their account, despite this, they managed to raise enough money, they now do have a ship!

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    Awesome, all power to them

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    I recently saw a video of an Italian policeman saying that the NGOs are actively ferrying them to Europe. These NGOs should face criminal prosecution!
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    Here's some vessel transponder data showing the NGOs' obvious trafficking:

    people trafficking

    For two months, using marinetraffic.com, we have been monitoring the movements of ships owned by a couple of NGOs. Using data from data.unhcr.org., we have kept track of the daily arrivals of African immigrants in Italy. It turned out we were witness to a big scam and an illegal human traffic operation.

    NGOs, smugglers, the mafia in cahoots with the European Union have shipped thousands of illegals into Europe under the pretext of rescuing people, assisted by the Italian coast guard which coordinated their activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Aesthete View Post
    These NGOs should face criminal prosecution!
    They never will because what they do is mostly desired by European authorities.
    "Denk ich an Deutschland in der Nacht, dann bin ich um den Schlaf gebracht. Ich kann die Augen nicht mehr schließen und meine heißen Tränen fließen!" (Heinrich Heine, "Nachtgedanken")

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    Interesting. If anyone is wondering what they would like to do specifically, I went through a few pages of the how and why of immigration to Europe, and finally found some concrete information from their website:

    What do you plan to do?

    Until now the NGOs have been able to act perfectly unhindered outside of the Libyan waters. With our ocean-going ship we want to go to the mediterranean. As soon as we arrive there, we can overwatch the doings of the NGOs, disrupt the human trafficking rings by sinking the abandoned boats they leave behind, and intervene when something illegal happens. We will offer the Libyan Coastguard our support as an recon-ship. Our presence in front of the Libyan Coast will make the sea more secure. We will save anyone we can if we get an SOS-Signal, but we will make sure that they will be brought back to Africa. By exposing the collboration of NGOs and human traffickers and destroying their abanndoned boats, we can save lifes in the future. Our presence in front of the Libyan coast is needed to save Europe and to save lifes. Help us and take our Ship a’sea!

    Which impact will your actions have?

    With our actions we create a maximum of attention for the operations in the Mediterranean Sea. The machinations of the NGOs have to be stopped as soon as possible, for every day comes with new casualties. Our actions will make the sea more safe in two ways.
    1. An additional ship will be there to answer SOS Signals.
    2. By exposing any collaboration with human traffickers, informing the Coastguard about any illegal activity and sinking as much abandoned trafficking vessels as possible, we will cause serious damage to the criminal networks.
    We will not hinder the saving but the smuggling of people.
    We take the first step, many others will follow. Already the announcement of our actions is putting the issue on the spot.
    Exposing the NGO's actions, making them known to people worldwide is a good idea, however, when it comes to their other goals, they're quite idealistic. The Europeans especially are welcome to comment and correct anything that I might have misunderstood.

    Some questions and possible issues:

    Human trafficking and smuggling - in this case mainly smuggling since it happens with consent, these people wanting to come to Europe for perceived better economic opportunities - despite being officially opposed, is big business. It makes big money, just like drug smuggling and trafficking, prostitution rings, child pornography rings and other illegal businesses. While it's possible that the government, politicians and authorities might have missed some small business rings, they're mostly aware of the big ones. Unfortunately, in many cases they even cooperate with them. Usually the bigger the profit for all parties involved, the less willing they are to jeopardise it. And unfortunately, it's often a cooperation from both sides, or it couldn't happen. Take immigration from Mexico to the US, for example. Trump talks about building a giant wall to prevent it, and that appeases people who think illegal immigration simply happens because of a few cracks with the border, however illegal immigration is as much controlled as legal one is. Just because it's not out there for all to see and know, it doesn't mean it's not out there. Small-scale smugglers usually arrange all aspects of the smuggling operation themselves. However, when it comes to mass immigration and NGOs are involved, one can suspect a trans- or multi-national web. As people smuggling has continued to grow, smuggling rings have become far more extensive and organised. So most probably European politicians and authorities are informed about the actions of these NGOs. If even Frontex, who is responsible for the border control of the European Schengen Area, is involved, then one can make the educated guess that the illegal migrant crisis in Europe has a big economical aspect. A relatively small NGO like Defend Europe would be a small beep on their radar, however should it come to that, and should it seriously interfere with their actions, couldn't one or more of the following occur?

    1. Defend Europe could be banned or labelled right-wing extremist or neo-nazi. There are already people on its Facebook page accusing them of being nazis raising money to go refugee hunting, endangering the lives of refugees, etc. Are they not a German network? Some of the comments on their Facebook page, for example, could be labelled "hate speech". Do they have someone moderating what goes onto their social media for example?

    2. They could be accused of interfering with border patrol and rescue operations, damage to property, reckless endangerment of migrant lives - especially if they plan to sink abandoned ships - is that even legal? How do they know they are abandoned in the first place, who establishes that? What if there are people who were left off swimming towards those ships and they're now endangered with drowning? How many can they realistically intercept and save? They've got one ship... which brings us to the next problem:

    3. Presence in Libyan/foreign territorial waters and "turning back" migrants. They say they want to bring people (back to) African harbours. To do that, they'd have to enter territorial waters. Vessels have the right of peaceful entry ("innocent passage") through any territorial waters. But they don't have the authority to force people or arrest them and turn them around. Those migrants most probably already paid big money and placed themselves at risk to get to Europe, so they probably wouldn't just agree to turn back without any resistance. What in the event of a physical or even armed conflict? Some of them may be carrying weapons. What about shipwrecked and/or wounded migrants? Shipowners owe a duty of reasonable care to passengers, so if they take them aboard they become responsible for their safety. If they are intercepting on the European side of the coast, sinking ships they would have used to get to European land, they would have to notify the local coast guard and/or take them to the closest harbour. The sea is vast, they might not survive the voyage back to Africa. Should they die, they could be charged with manslaughter or even murder. To realistically take them to an African harbour, they'd have to carry most of their operations on the Libyan coast. What happens if the Libyan Coast Guard or authorities decline to support/cooperate with them, as has been the case with many countries that declined to help with deportation or take back illegal immigrants? They don't cooperate with authorities and governments of other countries, let alone a lone NGO ship.

    4. How much territory could they realistically cover and how many illegal migrants could they intercept and turn back? That is, assuming that those who they do turn back don't end up trying again, or taking a different route. According to their video, their ship has space for 30 people, a crane and a borough but that's as much as we learn from there.

    5. What condition is the ship into, is it new or does it need renovations? Are any of the identitarians sailors/seamen or do they have someone who is familiar with the logistics, maritime laws and regulations? How well equipped is the ship and how exactly would they find the exact location of the migrant boats? How would they identify the culprit ships and differentiate them from other foreign or unidentified ships? The sea is vast and there's much to cover, especially for one lone boat... Even the most well-equipped ship technologically speaking couldn't cover the whole Mediterranean or even a coast/border. Coast guards operate on the basis of radar or even satellite tracking and multiple ships.

    6. Last but not least, they could be labelled pirates. I'm not an expert, however, I'm pretty certain those lawless international waters are more a myth. Generally a ship in international waters is under the jurisdiction of its flag/home state, however, if the ship is involved in criminal acts, anyone can exercise jurisdiction.

    I don't say this because I want to be pessimistic and discourage Europeans, just want to point out some possible issues that could hinder their actions. They're quite ambitious, but to make a difference realistically they'd need more than one ship. If something is achieved, how many would you think would realistically follow suit?

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    Every non-profit, non-government organisation has to start small. Considering PayPal closed their accounts and removed the donations, they've come quite far. They re-raised the donations and received over 100,000 EUR, double the amount they set as a goal. With that money, they'll be able to acquire a ship and equipment. They've to start with one ship, but if they have results maybe more will follow. So it's an impressive initiative.

    By the way, they don't plan on doing anything illegal as far as I've read, but to put themselves in the way and stopping illegal operations, so quite the contrary!

    So far it looks good in my view, they're a legit group, who have genuine followers and supporters, they don't incite to violence, they're not hateful but even help out strangers. They just support an autonomous Europe.

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    Isn't it funny how people who are doing something are always criticised for not doing enough?

    We need more, real border patrols and street patrols to keep us set a clear definition of Europe.

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    Well, the leftists and xenophiles seem to fear it already. Anyway, some of the questions are answers in this article:

    A pro-migrant activist group called Hope not Hate said the vessel from Defend Europe has departed from a Djibouti port and will reach Sicily by July 18.

    “This confrontational and dangerous project is organised by far-right activists with a long track record of anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant activism and while organized by Europeans it is being supported, funded and promoted by the extreme far-right around the world,” the group wrote.

    “The danger is that, if left unchallenged, Defend Europe could prove to be a major propaganda coup for the far-right Identitarian movement, which will use this mission to fundraise further and expand.”

    The mission by Defend Europe however is motivated by an abundance of evidence that NGO rescue missions in the Mediterranean are aiding smugglers who load migrants onto unseaworthy ships in the knowledge they would be rescued and taken to Italy.

    Italian authorities have argued that this extra safety net motivates more migrants to take the risk of getting into vessels that could never make the voyage without the aid of NGOs. It has since threatened to close its ports to such ships.

    With the Greek lambda as its logo – a reference to the Spartan shields used against the Persian Empire – the Identitarian movement says it is concerned about “the Islamic invasion of Europe”.

    Lorenzo Fiato, the leader of the Italian branch of Generation Identity spearheaded the anti-immigration initiative. The group told German media that they would also employ armed security to ward off any retribution from human traffickers.

    The 40-meter vessel will to intercept human trafficking boats and return them to the Libyan coast guard, before NGO groups can reach them and transport them to Italy. According to the UNHCR, these private rescue NGOs are now picking up 41 percent of the people rescued.

    “Our goal is to step in where our politicians are failing and to do what is necessary to stop the deadly illegal migration into Europe,” the group announced on their successful crowd-funding page.

    “We will offer the Libyan Coastguard our support as [a] recon ship … We will save anyone we can if we get an SOS signal, but we will make sure that they will be brought back to Africa.”

    The group had vowed to force NGO ships to change course in an effort to sap the financial and organisational resources of charities transporting migrants to the EU, they said on their website earlier.

    Human traffickers hope that Libyan authorities would soon sabotage the group’s project and refuse them entry in their territorial waters, suggesting that some Libyans are also involved in the smuggling. In May, Defend Europe unsuccessfully tried to stop a Medecins sans Frontieres vessel from leaving port on a rescue mission.
    http://freewestmedia.com/2017/07/15/...nts-to-africa/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    Isn't it funny how people who are doing something are always criticised for not doing enough?

    We need more, real border patrols and street patrols to keep us set a clear definition of Europe.
    We need submarines and battleships. And lots of Torpedoes...

    After one single week, no one would dare to enter a ship on the mediterranean sea again.

    Operation 'Iron Fist' is the only solution. But EU will never do that. They support demographic extinction over common sense and healthy defence.
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