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    Seems like they're already being derailed.

    The captain of a ship targeting refugees by disrupting humanitarian rescue missions in the Mediterranean has been arrested.

    The ship named 'C-star', which was chartered by right-wing extremists last month, was stopped in the port of Famagusta, northern Cyprus, by port and immigration authorities, according to the Cyprus Post. The ship's captain and his deputy were reportedly taken into custody.
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    From defendeurope.net:

    NGOs offered [the non-European apprentice sailors from wherever-the-hell elsewhere in the world... manning the C-star... huh? ] to stay in Europe and apply for asylum, in exchange for promises and money.

    Fifteen apprentices refused, five accepted this act of bribery and are now making false accusations against the owner of the ship. These scandalous practices confirm that NGOs are ready to do anything to prevent us from revealing the situation in the Mediterranean. Of course, these maneuvers delay the departure of the ship but will in no way prevent us from going near the Libyan coast to fulfill our mission.

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    I wish them the best of luck. This is what European countries should have been doing all along.

    I understand the "migrants" want a better life, but at whose expense? Europeans and the West - that's who. They're just looking to leach off the welfare system that European countries offer and will continue to live as they did in their native countries - overly sexually reproducing, spreading diseases, overcrowding, raping, committing violence, and spreading Islam. Europe never had these problems until the massive influx of third world immigrants within the past few decades. Intercept them and send them home. They need to learn to make things better in their own countries. Europeans need to be concerned with their own people surviving.

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    Right, as I feared, they've allegedly already been detained and accused of illegal activity and unwelcome in some ports...

    The ship chartered by far-right group Defend Europe to hamper the rescue of refugees in the Mediterranean has been evacuated and its Captain and Deputy Captain arrested in Cyprus, according to local media.

    The Kibris Postasi reports the pair were detained for allegedly forging false documents and the rest of the crew of the C-Star have been taken off and escorted to a local police station.

    Satellite-tracking shows the vessel currently moored in Famagusta on the Turkish east coast of the Mediterranean island.
    Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b0e201d57a6e1e

    Apparently, their story to the port's customs and immigration authority was that C-Star was "an EU ship aiming to rescue refugees from the sea". I think it's unlikely the authorities will buy this explanation, considering what's out there on their page, social media, etc.

    Also interesting:
    In a series of vague tweets Defend Europe appeared to suggest the reports were “fake news”.

    Defend Europe could not be contacted for comment but released a statement on their Facebook page accusing NGOs of bribing the ship’s Egyptian crew to apply for asylum in Cyprus.
    Can anyone explain the asylum thing? Why would Europeans need asylum in Cyprus? According to some other articles, they also have non-European refugees on the crew. A picture of the crew being checked and transported away and some more information from the Telegraph:





    A reporter at the Kibris Postasi newspaper in Northern Cyprus confirmed to the Telegraph that the captain and his deputy were arrested on Wednesday for allegedly falsifying documents.

    Other members of the crew, reportedly from Sri Lanka, have also been detained as their refugee status is reviewed. It is unclear if the vessel will be able to sail immediately with a new crew.
    Late on Wednesday the group issued a statement about the Cyprus incident blaming NGO's for using "scandalous practices" to sabotage their mission, which they pledged to continue.

    "We will follow the rules, wait for the outcome of the investigations and will take all the necessary time to start the mission properly," they said. But even if the ship is deported from Northern Cyprus, its next destination is unclear as Catania Mayor Enzo Bianco has formally requested Italian authorities not to allow the C-Star to dock in Catania due to concerns over public order. "They are not welcome guests here as they have come to seed intolerance," he said, reached by phone.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...igrant-patrol/

    Hope not Hate, a site that opposes the project also claims their crew already have criminal records and may be carrying mercenaries and arms.

    Sven Tomas Egerstrom, director of Marine Global Services LTD, which own the C-Star, was convicted of fraud in 2002 and sentenced to prison for two-and-a-half years in jail, Swedish criminal records reveal.

    When contacted for comment, Ergstrom confirmed that his company does indeed own the C-Star and that it has provided the onboard crew for the mission.

    He also confirmed that he was aware of Defend Europe’s intentions when he allowed it to charter the ship. When asked what he thought of his boat being used by far-right activists, he said:

    “We don’t take political places or stance in a commercial business for any grounds. […] I don’t see any problem with the vessel being in the area conducting legal research.”
    In relation to possible illegality of Defend Europe’s actions, he added:

    “We won’t let our vessels get involved in any form of illegal activity at all, and if the vessel is involved in illegal activity we fully expect the authorities to deal with that.”
    http://hopenothate.org.uk/2017/07/17...ted-fraudster/

    Daniel Fiß, leader of the German branch of the pan-European, far-right Identitarian movement that is behind Defend Europe, told Tagesschau.de that the group would be taking security staff aboard the C-Star to “take action” against potentially-armed human traffickers. He also told Deutschlandfunk.de that there would be six crew members, aside from this security.

    Interestingly Lorenzo Fiato, an Italian leader of Defend Europe, said in a recent statement that the ship’s crew were Ukrainian. Sven Tomas Egerstrom, the ship’s Swedish owner based in Cardiff, has an ongoing interest in companies which provide private armed security services at sea, specifically using Ukrainian personnel.
    http://hopenothate.org.uk/2017/07/19...-guards-board/

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    It was a foregone conclusion that this was the wrong way to go about things. This will never change until the power behind the money is removed.
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    So authorities can detain ships for 'illegal activies' when it comes to European patriots but are 'unable' to stop any illegal boats full of refugees for two years?

    The truth is: Authorities don't want to stop refugee boats and their NGO helpers! The invasion is appreciated!

    Refugee boats and NGO helpers: Passivity and 'we don't see anything'
    One single boat of patriots: DETAIN, DETAIN AND PROHIBITION TO ENTER MEDITERRANEAN SEA!
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    If you go down you take the enemy with you. Now it's just money and time wasted. They should have sunk a few of those ships and leave the crews to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Pride View Post
    Defend Europe could be banned or labelled right-wing extremist or neo-nazi. There are already people on its Facebook page accusing them of being nazis raising money to go refugee hunting, endangering the lives of refugees, etc. Are they not a German network? Some of the comments on their Facebook page, for example, could be labelled "hate speech". Do they have someone moderating what goes onto their social media for example?
    Of course they're labelled right-wing, everyone who isnt hardcore leftist and self-hating is. It's not new, and it's nothing they're concerned about either.

    Comments on someone else's facebook page are, legally viewed, a difficult thing in Germany. Although you could be in trouble for not deleting them, their content can not be attributed to you. Btw, all comments in most newspapers (those few that still allow comments, that is) are basically "hate speech", which is why Maas created his "law to enforce my (his) opinion" (aka NetzDG), but it's far from passing. Not least because this law tries to make owners of websites legally responsible for comments posted, which is on so many level unconstitutional, it's not even funny anymore. #Maasmussweg isnt for nothing an often used hashtag on twitter^^


    But well, will have to do some research now for what happened there, but one thing they've already reached: they're in the news (albeit bad ones), and with one of very few occasions that someone of the movement is interviewed and not some leftwingextremist organisation telling nonsense about them. For German conditions, this is already a great feat.

    And it's not that only some lone activists demand to close the mediterrean route for illegals. Austria deploys tanks and military to stop the flood of illegals that are loaded off in Italy. Greece is accused of having "concentration camps" for illegals, because they try to hinder them roaming the streets of Greece and to maintain some kind of order, but every day NGOs load off more illegals. And the Visegrad countries still block all tries to establish a "European solution" for resettlement. The EU thinks about kicking out Poland (due to the evil, right-wing PIS govt) from EU parliament. So EU's "Great Exchange" plan crumbles on all levels.

    Some years back Berlusconi was kicked off his presidency (fun fact: replaced with a confessing Maoist and ex-Goldman-Sachs) for demanding to sink the ships of illegals, the influx would stop within a week. Now several hundreds die in rubber boats every month, and the number will continue growing...

    We have a saying in German:
    Rather an end with terror than terror without end.

    Either this "development" is stopped the hard way or we will end up as refugees, fleeing the "culturally enriched" Europistan we allowed to become reality. Berlusconi was entirely right, sink some of the vessels and the influx will stop. And then deport those who're already here. No, it will not be easy, but it must be done, otherwise we'll end up refugees ourselves... and where would we even go? Siberia, hoping the permafrost will stop the niggers from following the white guys providing them with a "better life"?
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    It seems it still going to happen. And that MSM (unsurprisingly) is making some things up in relation to them being detained.

    https://youtu.be/7gFGd6_ebcg


    Of course one boat trying to expose what all the NGO's are doing is not enough. But anything they might find out and publish about what is really going might help making people realise that they are being lied to. That these NGO's are aided human traffickers and that the European authorities are turning a blind eye to it.
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    Well, this is a statement from their FB page, where they explain what went on. So, the asylum story is apparently not "fake news", but the rest has not been verified. In short, as far as I've understood, they had non-European apprentices on board who were allegedly supposed to disembark in Egypt, but that was not possible for whatever reason, so they entered Cyprus. Some of them applied for asylum to stay in Europe instead of returning home and made some accusations against the owner of the ship. Before that, they explain that after a false claim by a leftist organization the ship was controlled in Egypt but nothing was found.

    ++ Despite NGOs’ schemes, DEFEND EUROPE continues! ++

    As part of the DEFEND EUROPE mission, we chartered the C-Star, a boat that sails on several seas and oceans. Its crew is composed of several nationalities, something quite commonplace in the maritime world. On board, according to the company, there were also 20 apprentice sailors. They pay to make miles on this ship in order to validate their diplomas. A perfectly trite and legal practice.

    These sailors were supposed to disembark in Egypt, but it was ultimately impossible. So, they took advantage of the stop in Cyprus to leave the ship. We were reported that at the airport, as the apprentices were about to return to their country of origin, NGOs offered them to stay in Europe and apply for asylum, in exchange for promises and money.

    Fifteen apprentices refused, five accepted this act of bribery and are now making false accusations against the owner of the ship. These scandalous practices confirm that NGOs are ready to do anything to prevent us from revealing the situation in the Mediterranean. Of course, these maneuvers delay the departure of the ship but will in no way prevent us from going near the Libyan coast to fulfill our mission.

    We recall that this type of method has already been used to prevent the C-Star from crossing the Suez Canal. All charges were obviously false and the boat was simply delayed by the time needed to prove it.

    We intend to follow the rules, wait for the outcome of the investigations and will take all the necessary time to start the mission properly.

    Defend Europe continues!
    Another message from yesterday reveals,

    Crew is now on board. DEFEND EUROPE mission begins !
    That's good news, however they should be more careful with whom they take aboard the ship from now on, even if it's only apprentices. I overlooked adding internal conflict to the list of issues they could be facing, which unfortunately is quite common among right-wing and political organizations in general. It's good that they add their own version of the story though.

    Anyway, the troubles seem far from over, since the Sicilian coast guard might not allow them to dock. Mayor of Catania seems determined to stop them.

    “They are like vigilantes, people who take the law into their own hands without having any authority,” he said. ”The situation is too tense to be turned into the Wild West.”

    “The people on this boat are not welcome and I will certainly be asking the authorities to stop, for reasons of public safety, its docking at our port.

    The Identitarians say they are determined to carry out their mission as planned, despite the possibility that they may not be allowed to dock in Sicily – a decision which will ultimately rest with the coastguard.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7854301.html

    Their next goal does seem to be Catania, also according to their FB page.

    It would be interesting if they could translate their progress in numbers - how many ships stopped/turned around, how many refugees picked up and returned, how many lives saved. Some are accusing the mission to be a publicity stunt, so a bit of detail could help.

    I agree that an important part is exposing the truth being the ongoings of those NGOs. In the long run, this might have a greater impact than whatever they can achieve physically since information travels quickly and widely these days. They have raised an important amount of money which could be invested in other ways to help spread the message. But let's see...

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    I don't understand why they have non-Europeans on board. A European identitarian group should really know better. They should limit the international crew to European countries. They've not even started and already they have problems, which ironically, have to do with the non-Europeans. If those people enter Europe and get granted asylum, they'll be responsible for bringing them here. Hopefully, they're going to learn their lesson from now on and stick to Germanic and European crew.

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