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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs vonTrep View Post
    I don't know if there's any truth to it but I heard that all the original developers at VB have quit and that things went downhill from version 3.x something?
    Yes, they are the ones behind XenForo.
    I haven't used VB5 but everyone seems to be speaking very bad of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mööv View Post
    Yes, they are the ones behind XenForo.
    I haven't used VB5 but everyone seems to be speaking very bad of it.
    Oh so the original developers of VB are the ones behind XF? That certainly explains why XF is getting more popular and why people loved the older versions of VB much better than 4 and 5. I guess those guys/gals are just doing a good job.
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    Xenforo looks/sounds good, but one would need to know in advance if an import/ upgrade would work with Skadi's database and version of software. Otherwise you'd just gamble with the money. Skadi has over 800,000 posts, so it's not as though we'd start from scratch, it also contains the databases of other fora, so everything should be integrated properly.

    Some comparison topics:

    Large forum peformance: XenForo vs vBulletin

    Xenforo Comparison To vBulletin

    vBulletin vs. XenForo vs. IP.Board

    XenForo vs vBulletin

    There is also phpBB, which is a free forum software. Might not have all the options and advantages of the others, but at least you don't throw money out the window in case the support sucks or in case the upgrade. vbulletin imports are also supported afaik.

    Maybe this also helps: Best Forum Software 2016 - a list which includes other, some known, some less known forum software.

    Comparison of Internet forum software - Wikipedia article

    Examples of other fora:
    EndPhase21 runs on vbulletin 4.2.1.
    Forum Europa runs on MyBB.
    Lumine Boreali runs on XenForo.
    Occidental Enclave (now defunct) ran on phpBB
    The Apricity runs on vbulletin 4.2.3.
    Forum Biodiversity runs on vbulletin 4.2.5
    Eupedia runs on vbulletin 4.2.3

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    Thanks for that list, OoG. I had forgotten Lumine Boreali ran on XenForo. It does have a nice look and feel to it. The advantage to staying with VB is its familiarity, but I wouldn't be averse to migrating to XenForo if it's workable. Seems like a huge undertaking, but a call to the XF people might be enlightening, particularly if it's true that they represent the heart and soul of what VB was during the 3.x era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorburn View Post
    Surely. Any suggestions as to concrete brand names?
    Well, no. I only made a general suggestion. Regrettably, I am not up on this sort of service provider. Mrs. v.T. and some others seem to know quite a lot about bulletin-board-service providers; they certainly more than I do when it comes to this sort of thing.
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    Am I the only one who is pretty happy with the current version Skadi is using, (apart from a few minor bugs)?

    I don't like the look of vbulletin 4 much, but maybe because all forums using this software seem to use the default style. It looks and feels unoriginal... and it has many "social media" features which distract from the main forum... likes instead of thanks etc.

    I like the fact that Skadi's look and feel remained somewhat stable, it's like its own trademark. It also has many styles to choose from, banners, etc.

    But of course it's understandable if there are security risks. Whatever is best, but if possible, please preserve the Asgard skin and a few other Skadi-esque styles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    Am I the only one who is pretty happy with the current version Skadi is using, (apart from a few minor bugs)?
    No, you are not the only one, I guess many of us here don't like too much change that is a given. I really like all the features and arcade to.

    I do however understand we have to stay with the times on technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    Am I the only one who is pretty happy with the current version Skadi is using, (apart from a few minor bugs)?...
    Well, if the present version of vBulletin's bulletin-board software is working well with only a few minor faults in the system, why is Skadi management upgrading it? Is it mandatory or compulsory to upgrade when vBulletin brings out a later version of their bulletin-board software?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingvaeonic View Post


    Well, if it is working well with only few minor faults in the system, why is Skadi management upgrading it? Is it mandatory or compulsory to upgrade when vBulletin brings out a later version of their bulletin-board software?

    VB3 is end of life. There will be no more updates for it, so it poses a security risk, and various problems would multiply over time.
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    Bärin - of course not. Everyone loves v3.6.12 - but it's the Forum equivalent of Windows XP - a widely-used top-notch software but no longer serviced or updated, and now having several security holes.

    The reason why Skadi has been running on v3.6.12 all these days is because it was the neatest-looking, most user-friendly forum with v3.7 & v3.8 not supporting many favourite modification and incorporating a lot of extra stuff (like Social Groups & the likes) that was useless at the time.

    I'm also not a big fan of v4.x concerning neither the functionality nor the look. I keep on having trouble finding reputation points or PMs if I don't check them when they're fresh and I find it has a terribly stale look, regardless of what Forum Skin one's using.

    If the database could be ported + if standard modifications we've all come to accept as a taken have an equivalent then considering a move to XenForo is indeed an excellent suggestion. I remember the Admin of a similarly themed forum completely steaming about his 'premium support' at vB, so this doesn't seem to be an isolated issue.
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