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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    White South Africa had a pretty good connection to Israel, don't know what that means.
    The Apartheid era NP Government indeed had good working relations with Israel. However, don't lose sight of the fact that 99.999% of Israel firster shitliberals in South Africa have supported the ANC and Black Nationalist movements since at least the early 1900's.

    These same Jews participated in helping the ANC and like-minded organisations bomb civilians and create terror throughout the country.

    The Boers were good fighters but the British soon became bored of waging war against them and simply rounded up the Boer civilians into death camps where they killed 10 000's of them. That ended the war and the resistance.

    Do you really think that the Blacks would be any more merciful than the British, or that the Europeans (including Britain) and the USA wouldn't reinforce the Blacks militarily, economically, politically and socially to exterminate any White Resistance?

    Unless some kind of sneaky side-deal is brokered with a major foreign power who will provide a degree of assistance and cover, any notions of armed resistance are terminally doomed.
    ~ **** Democracy! It's 2 wolves and 1 sheep deciding what's for dinner.

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    The world is changing rapidly, which make it unpredictable.

    A lot of boers emigrated and most likely will support them.

    Some groups will support them.

    Even the 'Netherlanders' changed.

    There is a global turning point approaching, you see it everywhere.

    Defenders of white people pop up everywhere.

    I could see it even in my family which had been a total brainwashed loss.

    Given that Zimbabwe asked the white farmers coming back, it seems even the dumbest blacks learn after 40 years of applied dumbness, that they can't survive without whites. They literally die by hunger, their economy is bankrupt.

    My own brother is working with a black Christian group in SA (it's paid for by the German government otherwise he wouldn't) and feeds me all the glorious news about the new SA and how blacks learn. Well, I don't believe the propaganda but it seems there are also somewhat reasonable blacks who don't want civil war either.

    The ANC got big losses at the last election, so I don't know where SA is heading.
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    With states governments being destroyed everywhere nationalist groups emerge everywhere, and they are trending into the tougher direction as a defense.

    Governments are the enemy of their people, that means the people look for connections to groups as their guiding.

    I guess that's why nationalists become stronger and connect across not existing borders.

    The concept of Globalists is exceedingly failing in making a conformist global society.

    Many groups are hostile to governments and the Boers might right fit in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    The world is changing rapidly, which make it unpredictable.

    A lot of boers emigrated and most likely will support them.

    Some groups will support them.

    The people who make a point and go out of their way to identify as "Boers" today don't usually emigrate. They're the ones who stay, hence why they're launching into fighting talk. If you need some insight into these types and their mentality, there are a little knitting circle of them on Storm Front.

    Dealing with them is a bit like dealing with the awkward and annoying lunatic fringe of hardcore rednecks. They're prone to endless infighting, they more or less hate all foreigners (incl. almost all other Whites who they consider to be racial/cultural apostates), they're stubborn to the point of stupidity, they are politically naive, they're set in their ways. They're a waste of time to deal with.

    Many of them fancy themselves as being ethnic Germans (not Germanics, big difference to them!!!). They even hate some of the Germanic groups who are represented on Skadi. The "Germans" they identify as don't exist today. These ones disappeared with the Kaiser and later the 3d Reich.

    Who will support them? I really don't know of anybody worth mentioning. I mean.... who out there supports, even knows about a bunch of backward, isolationist hard nuts? They don't even have much support amongst other Whites in SA! Some amongst them are more agreeable and easier to deal with but all in all we're talking small numbers.

    Their plans and ambitions are also completely unrealistic. They live inland surrounded by and outnumbered by enormous numbers of hostiles. They are cut off from access to the sea. They don't want to consider relocating and giving up their historical territory etc etc. It's hopeless.


    Even the 'Netherlanders' changed.
    The Dutch haven't changed much, if at all. They're still electing the same establishment politicians flooding their country with Maroccoons, Turks, Surinamers and whatever else they can dredge up from the 3d World.

    There is a global turning point approaching, you see it everywhere.
    I'm not seeing it. The vast majority of Whites are sheeple parrotting whatever the Televitz tells them. Sure there is a little bit more whining about the political and social status quo's but not nearly enough to shake the foundations of ZOG's control over Europe or North America.

    Defenders of white people pop up everywhere.
    It's still chump change compared to the main stream.

    I could see it even in my family which had been a total brainwashed loss.
    Congratulations, but it's going to take a hell of a lot more.

    Given that Zimbabwe asked the white farmers coming back, it seems even the dumbest blacks learn after 40 years of applied dumbness, that they can't survive without whites. They literally die by hunger, their economy is bankrupt.
    Negro logic is something magical to behold. Just as soon as those farmers are back and settled in they'll be raped, robbed and chased out again because they are exploiting and stealing from the black man.

    Typical Negro logic works like this:

    "Boss I'm hungry please help give me food give me money, I am suffering, my family are starving blah blah"

    and at the first next opportunity after being fed and paid

    "Whites are stealing our land, exploiting us, Whites caused this disaster and brought hardships on us"


    My own brother is working with a black Christian group in SA (it's paid for by the German government otherwise he wouldn't) and feeds me all the glorious news about the new SA and how blacks learn. Well, I don't believe the propaganda but it seems there are also somewhat reasonable blacks who don't want civil war either.
    For sure, there are OK and reasonable Blacks out there, but overall they are a pestilence to deal with. The only method that works is to reward the few who are actually of some use, to put them in charge and to control the rest with an iron fist. In this day and age such methods would be deemed "inhumane" and "an affront to their dignity and human rights".


    The ANC got big losses at the last election, so I don't know where SA is heading.
    It's heading to rock bottom in a downward spiral. As unbelievable as this may sound, the ANC are the least of the evils which South Africa are facing. Malema's mob of radicals are making significant political gains, at the expense of the ANC. This again motivates the ANC to become more radicalised themselves, in order to try to compete with and slow the loss of support to Malema.

    The other large political faction is the DA, which is popular amongst White voters and urbanised and professional / educated class Blacks. The DA are a jewish controlled party, roughly equivalent to the US Democrat Party. They're scum but at least they're not the nightmare Mugabe scenario and experience - which is what Malema will be offering.

    Whites still stuck in South Africa need to prepare themselves for hard times or get out while they still can. And North Americans and Europeans either need to wake up and turn around their countries before it's too late and conditions deteriorate to South African levels, or prepare for the same kind of downward spiral which is surely coming.
    ~ **** Democracy! It's 2 wolves and 1 sheep deciding what's for dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    The people who make a point and go out of their way to identify as "Boers" today don't usually emigrate. They're the ones who stay, hence why they're launching into fighting talk. If you need some insight into these types and their mentality, there are a little knitting circle of them on Storm Front.

    Dealing with them is a bit like dealing with the awkward and annoying lunatic fringe of hardcore rednecks. They're prone to endless infighting, they more or less hate all foreigners (incl. almost all other Whites who they consider to be racial/cultural apostates), they're stubborn to the point of stupidity, they are politically naive, they're set in their ways. They're a waste of time to deal with.

    Many of them fancy themselves as being ethnic Germans (not Germanics, big difference to them!!!). They even hate some of the Germanic groups who are represented on Skadi. The "Germans" they identify as don't exist today. These ones disappeared with the Kaiser and later the 3d Reich.

    Who will support them? I really don't know of anybody worth mentioning. I mean.... who out there supports, even knows about a bunch of backward, isolationist hard nuts? They don't even have much support amongst other Whites in SA! Some amongst them are more agreeable and easier to deal with but all in all we're talking small numbers.

    Their plans and ambitions are also completely unrealistic. They live inland surrounded by and outnumbered by enormous numbers of hostiles. They are cut off from access to the sea. They don't want to consider relocating and giving up their historical territory etc etc. It's hopeless.
    I've seen a bit of this on other internet forums. I hope it's just restricted to the internet. It's very strange because, being Australian, I have a lot of exposure to South African expats post-1994. A lot of my friends growing up were born there. From memory, most of them had Dutch or French last names. I do know a couple of Anglo-South Africans, but to us they were all just "South Africans". Although obviously the more Afrikaner ones had preferences for more unique things like Boerewors and called a barbecue a "braai". But as a whole, they really weren't much different from anyone else. This is probably an unpleasant fact for the more hardcore Boer nationalists, due to the resentment of British rule.

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    Shortly said, nobody's going back to Zimbabwe under current circumstances.

    Although some honest people miss the white farmers, there's also a continual counter-narrative.
    Although it is true that former white farmers from Zimbabwe, and indeed South Africa are farming successfully in other African countries, and across the world.

    Zimbabwe remains an Africanist (anti-white), socialist hell-hole.
    We have millions of their refugees and migrants.
    Some say four million, but nobody really knows.

    In Botswana they get fined or caned before being sent home (yeah, how blacks treat "migrants"), but our South African borders are porous and some ANC ministers want to open them completely.
    That has quite some counter-pressure, because SA has limited resources, and we've seen some major episodes of xenophobic violence.

    Saliently, the top ANC and ZANU-PF brass support each other (there's a long history) and we fear SA will go the same path as Zimbabwe eventually.

    I guess we must flee into the sea, because there's nowhere further south to run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawyer View Post
    I've seen a bit of this on other internet forums. I hope it's just restricted to the internet. It's very strange because, being Australian, I have a lot of exposure to South African expats post-1994. A lot of my friends growing up were born there. From memory, most of them had Dutch or French last names. I do know a couple of Anglo-South Africans, but to us they were all just "South Africans". Although obviously the more Afrikaner ones had preferences for more unique things like Boerewors and called a barbecue a "braai". But as a whole, they really weren't much different from anyone else. This is probably an unpleasant fact for the more hardcore Boer nationalists, due to the resentment of British rule.
    The guys you'd come across in Oz would be mostly Afrikaans & English speaking SA expats. The Afrikaners / Afrikaans speaking guys (although "Boers" speak Afrikaans as well) are usually a bit less radicalised vs the present day hardcore self-described "Boer" types.

    The whole thing is a bit stupid to be honest. Many of these Internet "Boers" and some of the more hardcore types in SA kind of view themselves as god's chosen people, they all seem to have different and opposing bizarre quasi religious beliefs, they detest the "non-Boer" Afrikaans speakers (basically view them as traitors and enemies) etc. They're still fighting the Anglo-Boer War (in their heads), you can only imagine what their views on Anglos are.

    It's just too tiresome to deal with them and their endless BS.
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    When most negroes are died off because of lack of food. Then Boers might emigrate north, as there then is most likely a lot of empty but fertile land.

    I don't know whether there are provinces in SA which have a better outlook for a white men's state in SA.

    I like the courage of the boers, however bleak the future looks, to stand their ground. Looks more like my (East-)Frisian ancestors. They are part of the land, you won't get them out of there.

    It's totally Teutonic, in older times, they might have sung a new Nibelungen Saga.

    People with high motivation are ferocious fighters who sometimes win against all odds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawyer View Post
    I've seen a bit of this on other internet forums. I hope it's just restricted to the internet.
    It's very isolated, whether there's an offline element to it or not. It kind of has to be, if you think about RB's description of them - they're culty and excessively exclusionary. These are not the ingredients for a groundswell.

    AFAIK the "Boer Afrikaner Volksraad" mentioned in the article is more inclusive and do not proselytize the culty Boers' dogma wholesale (or at least not in the name of the organization), although you'll probably find some difficult characters on their social media and what not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sawyer View Post
    I do know a couple of Anglo-South Africans, but to us they were all just "South Africans". Although obviously the more Afrikaner ones had preferences for more unique things like Boerewors and called a barbecue a "braai". But as a whole, they really weren't much different from anyone else.
    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    The guys you'd come across in Oz would be mostly Afrikaans & English speaking SA expats. The Afrikaners / Afrikaans speaking guys (although "Boers" speak Afrikaans as well) are usually a bit less radicalised [...]
    Also I think there's a lot of cultural similarity between Afrikaners and Anglos to begin with, more so than between us and the Dutch. (Tried to find a vaguely remembered thread on this topic. Failed.) Maybe we've been influenced by sharing the country with Anglos. Maybe it's more complex than that. In terms of how we interact socially I just don't think us and Anglos typically find anything alien about each other.

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