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    "I Made A German Man Cry Because I Criticized Globalism And Muslim Refugees"

    Recently, for the first time in my life, I made a man cry. It was a baffling and odd experience that happened in the basement of a bar, with an acquaintance I was comfortable spending time with. I want to tell this story because the story itself is telling. It shows how far Germany and other parts of Western Europe have fallen—how they are happy to be invaded, raped, and pillaged. It shows how brainwashed the people truly are.

    It Started Innocently Enough

    I live in Eastern Europe, and generally speaking, I try to avoid any and all political talks with the locals. Many of them have grown up with far less than I have. This means that many of them automatically assume that I will preach down to them, by simple nature of being American. In addition, many of them also think they know much about the political scheme of the Western world than they do.

    The combination of these two usually results in me wasting my breath. The reason for this is that when you add people’s general stubborn belief about politics, and add in the fact that some feel they have had it bad their whole life (and I don’t blame the ones who grew up post-Soviet Union fall), it’s clear they don’t want to listen to me simply because of where I come from.

    And that’s fine and all—I just don’t talk about it. The problems start when people become insistent on talking about it. You’d be amazed how many people will simply not let you out of a conversation about Donald Trump.

    Back to the story. A few months ago, I met this German fella at a language exchange. He was cool, and we swapped numbers. A week or so later him, another girl we’d met, my girlfriend, and I all met for some beers.

    It Goes Political

    The conversation went political at one point, and I tried to bow out of it gracefully. I already knew that he was fully plugged in to the “Angela Merkel is great, all refugees should be given a chance, we are all one world” matrix. I kept trying to change the topic, and he just wouldn’t. It kept going back to Trump and how horrible he was. He wouldn’t take no for an answer.

    Finally, I engaged. I laid out everything, and three or so odd minutes later he was literally in tears at the bar. While that was bad enough, it was what he told me next that truly shocked me. He said:

    I am ashamed of being German. Many of my friends feel the same. Since World War II, we feel like we must accept everybody for who they are. We may never say bad things, because we did horrible things. This is why we MUST allow all refugees in, and whoever else needs help. They deserve a chance at life.

    This post also goes into great depth about it:

    People here have been brainwashed with a guilt complex since World War 2 ….. guilt, guilt, guilt is written all over them. In schools the smaller children have to watch the concentration camp victim videos and are already traumatized at a young age. That is why so many hold their tongue when it comes to saying anything against foreigners. Apart from that it is against the law to say anything against certain racial groups and you can go to jail because of it. This is reality pure even though many of the Germans remain oblivious of this.

    Never mind the fact that he’s making barely $1,000 a month working for a German company in Eastern Europe. This does not come from a position of having too much and being generous. Never mind the fact that Germany economically, and culturally, cannot handle it’s overflow of refugees (they let unskilled, young men in instead of importing hot girls). None of that mattered. In some ways, I almost admired him. He seemingly doesn’t have a selfish bone in his body (unlike me).

    Respect

    I was raised in California, where we welcome everybody. I take heat from family all the time, because I fully support building the wall. But this young German man opened my eyes greatly.

    It comes down to people feeling they must be unselfish. Am I really a bad person because I want the wall built, so that I can stop paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes (speaking in terms of over my lifetime) funding education and healthcare for illegal immigrants?

    Is it so bad if a German wants him or her self and their offspring to be able to live in a safe society, without the real risks that come in by taking on insane amounts of political refugees? Why is it so bad to look out for your own kin?

    These were the questions that I was left scratching my head over, because they make no sense to me. Humans are, and always have been, inherently selfish. We always have our own best interests at heart, but sometimes it’s subconsciously. In the case of this German fella, his selfishness comes from societal shame. Society shames him if he is anything but selfless, so selfishly he preaches for acceptance so that he can feel good—despite what he truly thinks, deep down.

    I suspect this is what brought him to tears. Perhaps at his deepest core, he believes and knows he is preaching for a movement he doesn’t fully believe in. Perhaps he does believe his homeland will fall at some point. Maybe he is a bit ashamed of what he has become.

    Closing Thoughts

    I realize that if you want to truly live in today’s world, it usually means pissing a lot of people off. The confidence to do that comes from living in such a place of despair that anything is better. I’ve been at that point before, too. I had nothing to live for—I couldn’t get girls, felt like I was going nowhere in life, and more. Now, I care far less who I offend because I have been in darker places.

    Unfortunately, many German men are being raised in a dark place. They are afraid, and unable, to speak out. They fear the consequences of their action. They feel that no girls will want them if they do speak out—but hell, they already seem to prefer the refugees. It is not until these men find themselves in truly dark places that they will derive the confidence to selfishly state what they really think.

    Little do these German men know that their own women would have far more respect for them if they actually did stand up for what they believed in, no matter the consequences. This recent conversation with one German guy showed real insight into how many of them currently think. Unfortunately, that thought process will not get them individually, or their country as a whole, into a safer space—no pun intended.
    http://www.returnofkings.com/121462/...uslim-refugees

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    How can these people be de-programmed? Does anyone have any ideas?
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    How can these people be de-programmed? Does anyone have any ideas?
    Without control of the education system or mass media? Get them mugged by 30 year old child refugees.

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    I am ashamed of being German. Many of my friends feel the same. Since World War II, we feel like we must accept everybody for who they are. We may never say bad things, because we did horrible things. This is why we MUST allow all refugees in, and whoever else needs help. They deserve a chance at life.
    This represents the typical guilt-ridden modern person. Probably from somewhere in West Germany, where the guilt politics has been pushed for several generations already. So you have even people who don't necessarily like multiculturalism very much, but they have no guts to say anything about it because they feel they would be hypocrites. Because they're German, and they "have to" compensate forever for WWII.

    This trend can only be changed by teaching people not to be ashamed of being German, and realizing that two wrongs don't make a right. Allowing aliens to rape our women and children won't "wash our sins". It's time to drop this Christian "original sin" or turn the other cheek philosophy and stop self-flagellating.

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    The conversation went political at one point, and I tried to bow out of it gracefully. I already knew that he was fully plugged in to the “Angela Merkel is great, all refugees should be given a chance, we are all one world” matrix. I kept trying to change the topic, and he just wouldn’t. It kept going back to Trump and how horrible he was. He wouldn’t take no for an answer.

    Finally, I engaged. I laid out everything, and three or so odd minutes later he was literally in tears at the bar. While that was bad enough, it was what he told me next that truly shocked me. He said:

    I am ashamed of being German. Many of my friends feel the same. Since World War II, we feel like we must accept everybody for who they are. We may never say bad things, because we did horrible things. This is why we MUST allow all refugees in, and whoever else needs help. They deserve a chance at life.
    Sounds to me like a knee-jerk reaction. It is a type of reprogramming, where if someone enters a political discussion, they feel compelled to recite all these things, as though they were reproducing a poem or important passage from a book. Since this fellow was ashamed of being German, he must have felt that his utmost duty was to root for Merkel and the open door policy every chance he got.

    The last paragraph may also sound like frustration. Maybe he doesn't really hold those beliefs deep down indeed. Maybe the author of the article was making a rational point, which sparked a little switch inside and he ran away before it became uncomfortable and he started asking questions to himself...

    So because he is ashamed of being German, that's what he was taught an all he's ever known, the only acceptable thing in his society back home, he feels he has no right to criticize anyone or anything, and that he and his country have a moral conscience to help everybody. Even if that means his country's economy will eventually collapse and his people go hungry, even if that means that his people are mugged, threatened, raped or murdered on a daily basis by the cultural enrichers, all of this doesn't matter in the end, because they MUST, MUST, MUST.

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    Of course, we all know who is responsible for the demotivation of the German nation:



    But it's always "antisemitic" to finger the true culprits for this monstrous crime.

    https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/09/sefton-delmer.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Vinlander View Post
    How can these people be de-programmed? Does anyone have any ideas?
    Without control of the education system or mass media? Get them mugged by 30 year old child refugees.

    One should think that this would trigger rethinking the whole thing. Sometimes it does, but as long as the underlying myth and ideology isn't destroyed, it won't actually change the mind fundamentally. They just have a "bad day" and then simply reinterpret the experience in line with the hegemonial ideology.

    Changing this would take decades, unless something drastic happened. Like Pavlov told Lenin. People that experience hunger, sleep deprivation, cold and hardship may just loose their previous conditioning.

    Then it's just the question how you gain hegemony after that experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    How can these people be de-programmed? Does anyone have any ideas?
    They can only reprogram themselves, and that process has already startet, provided the quote is accurate:

    I am ashamed of being German. Many of my friends feel the same. Since World War II, we feel like we must accept everybody for who they are. We may never say bad things, because we did horrible things. This is why we MUST allow all refugees in, and whoever else needs help. They deserve a chance at life.
    People will only ever take so much, for everyone there's a point that tips things over the limit. He does already know/feel, that this to say is just what is being expected of him, as that "evil German" that he is. As long as he can hide from reality hitting in, he'll continue saying that. Just like the ~29% of Duisburg Marxloh would have done 2 years ago, that "Marxloh ist bunt" and everything, and now 29% of this district vote AfD, which basically equals the entire remaining German population there.

    This conversation with someone he obviously enjoyed hanging out with, and hopefully brought some leveled arguments, will also leave an imprint on the consciousness of the guy, he broke down in tears (not in hystery, which is the common reaction of people who do not doubt their adopted ideology, shouting their opponent down etc), the layer of conditionedness is already worn thin.

    Not going to happen tomorrow that he wakes up, or even less suddenly. But he's already way less braindead than many others. Reflecting on what is being expected of you carries a giant shadow of doubt somewhere in the background already, and in a way what he says is an excuse for not questioning that self-flagellation ideology. One of those people who're about to jump off the train at least, and that conversation, provided the author hit some points, will gnaw on his consciousness and help erode the suicide ideology, bit by bit.

    Unfortunately, this isnt the case for many other people yet. They'll wake up when an alahu akbar cuts their throat, and probably not even then. Some people are hopelessly lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    This represents the typical guilt-ridden modern person. Probably from somewhere in West Germany, where the guilt politics has been pushed for several generations already. So you have even people who don't necessarily like multiculturalism very much, but they have no guts to say anything about it because they feel they would be hypocrites. Because they're German, and they "have to" compensate forever for WWII.

    This trend can only be changed by teaching people not to be ashamed of being German, and realizing that two wrongs don't make a right. Allowing aliens to rape our women and children won't "wash our sins". It's time to drop this Christian "original sin" or turn the other cheek philosophy and stop self-flagellating.

    Asking from the US here: Is the average German aware of the millions of people that were tortured and killed by Soviet communists? I can understand why most Americans have no clue, because we were so far removed from most of the events of WWII. But the Soviet Union was hanging right above Germany and eventually of course took over half of your country.

    So do Germans feel that modern Russians should live in an eternal state of loathing, self-hatred, and self subservience?

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    Hmm, I don't think the German population is taught much about the Soviet crimes. The Soviets are considered to be liberators, along with the Americans. So I doubt that topics like the rape of Berlin are prominent in history teachings. The topic of expulsed Geramans comes up and they've a federation of their own, the Bund der Vertriebenen (BdV). The federation represents the interest of ethnic Germans who either fled their homes in parts of Central and Eastern Europe, or were forcibly expelled following WWII, and their families. There was some controversy about them when they wanted to dedicate a memorial to ethnic Germans who dies in the expulsions and honor them through it. The story here: https://forums.skadi.info/showthread.php?t=95760

    East Germany was communistic itself, so there wasn't any teachings critical of the Soviets. However in East Germany they also didn't teach a massive Holocaust guilt so you can find more nationalistic minded peoples in the East.

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