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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smithwick View Post
    I found this interesting (the idea of the Holocaust was in full effect during the war):

    Radio-Berlin refuted claims from the Allies on April 8th 1945 that millions of Jews had been killed in gas chambers, instead stating gas chambers existed for delousing to save Jewish lives. See 41:40 in the video below:

    Vincent Reynouard - Chambres a gaz, la rumeur du siecle partie 1 - Gas Chambers, the Rumor of the Century part 1 : didi18 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet ArchiveVincent Reynouard - Gas Chambers, the Rumor of the Century

    The NS went to the trouble of executing commanders/guards for mistreating prisoners as late as April 1945:

    Karl-Otto Koch - Wikipedia

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcX_-3PfSwU - Germans punished Germans for mistreating prisoners (including Jews) - YouTube

    YouTube deleted the above video of course.

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    An objective scientific audit of the Holocaust was never carried out, and should be conducted by several international teams. You'd think Jews would want this to learn the full truth of the matter, and wouldn't fear it, now that they have their own country filled with nuclear weapons. We just want the full truth, and nothing but the truth.
    Exactly, given the attention the subject got and how pushy people were with this, it should have been an easy thing to do a proper forensic investigation at the proposed crime scenes. But that was never done in any serious way. The attempts tried were rather meagre pilot missions that then had to explain why what was to be expected wasn't found. The conclusion that that what was alleged may simply not have happened is of course not allowed.


    No forensic evidence and your accusations obviously do not have substance.

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    Auschwitz: Myths and Facts



    Auschwitz: Myths and Facts






    Mark Weber — Institute for Historical Review Sept 2009

    Auschwitz is regarded as the most well known Nazi extermination center. During World War II, we are told, hundreds of thousands of prisoners — most of them Jewish — were systematically killed there, especially in gas chambers.

    Auschwitz was unquestionably a place of horror, where many perished under terrible circumstances. And yet, much of what has been said about the camp is exaggerated or untrue. A closer look at the facts calls into question at least some aspects of its reputation as a center of systematic mass extermination.



    A Large Camp Complex


    The Auschwitz camp complex was set up in 1940 in what is now south-central Poland. Large numbers of Jews were deported there between 1942 and mid-1944. The main camp was known as Auschwitz I. Birkenau, or Auschwitz II, was supposedly the main concentration center, while Monowitz, or Auschwitz III, was a large industrial site where gasoline was produced from coal. In addition there were dozens of smaller satellite camps devoted to the war economy.


    Four Million Victims?


    At the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal, the Allies charged that the Germans exterminated four million people at Auschwitz. This figure, which was invented by the Soviets, was uncritically accepted for many years, and often appeared in major American newspapers and magazines. [1] Today no reputable historian accepts it.

    Israeli Holocaust historian Yehuda Bauer said in 1989 that it is finally time to acknowledge that the familiar four million figure is a deliberate myth. In July 1990 the Auschwitz State Museum in Poland, along with Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust Center, announced that altogether perhaps one million people (both Jews and non-Jews) died there. Neither institution would say how many of these people were killed, and no estimates were given for the numbers of those supposedly gassed. [2]

    One prominent Holocaust historian, Gerald Reitlinger, estimated that perhaps 700,000 Jews perished at Auschwitz. [3] French Holocaust historian Jean-Claude Pressac estimated in 1993 that the number of those who perished there was about 800,000 – of whom 630,000 were Jewish. [4]

    Fritjof Meyer, a respected foreign policy analyst, author of several books, and managing editor of Germany’s foremost weekly news magazine, presented a still lower figure in 2002. Writing in the scholarly German journal Osteuropa, he estimated that altogether 500,000 or 510,000 persons — Jews and non-Jews — perished in Auschwitz. [5]

    While all such figures are conjectural, they show how the Auschwitz story has changed drastically over the years.


    Fake ‘Gas Chamber’


    Each year for decades, tens of thousands of visitors to Auschwitz have been shown an execution “gas chamber” in the main camp, supposedly in its “original state.” In January 1995 the prestigious French weekly magazine L’Express acknowledged that “everything” about this “gas chamber” is “false,” and that it is in fact a deceitful postwar reconstruction. [6]


    Allied Propaganda

    The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15]


    Inmates Released

    More than 200,000 prisoners were transferred from Auschwitz to other camps, and about 8,000 were in the camp when it was liberated by Soviet forces. In addition, about 1,500 prisoners who had served their sentences were released, and returned to their home countries. [18] If Auschwitz had actually been a top secret extermination center, it is difficult to believe that the German authorities would have released inmates who “knew” what was happening there.


    Telltale Aerial Photos


    Detailed Allied aerial reconnaissance photographs taken of Auschwitz-Birkenau on several random days in 1944 — during the height of the alleged extermination period there — were made public by the CIA in 1979. These photos show no trace of piles of corpses, smoking crematory chimneys or masses of Jews awaiting death, things that have been repeatedly alleged, and all of which would have been visible if Auschwitz had been the extermination center it is said to have been. [19]


    Absurd Cremation Claims


    Cremation specialists have confirmed that thousands of corpses could not possibly have been cremated every day throughout the spring and summer of 1944 at Auschwitz, as has often been alleged. Ivan Lagacé, manager of a large crematory in Canada, testified in court in April 1988 that the Auschwitz cremation story is technically impossible. The allegation that 10,000 or even 20,000 corpses were burned every day at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944 in crematories and open pits is simply “preposterous” and “beyond the realm of reality,” he declared under oath. [20]


    Gassing Expert Refutes Extermination Story


    A leading American gas chamber expert, Fred A. Leuchter, carefully examined the supposed “gas chambers” in Poland and concluded that the Auschwitz gassing story is absurd and technically impossible. At the time he conducted his examination, Leuchter was acknowledged as the foremost specialist on the design and installation of gas chambers used in the United States to execute convicted criminals. For example, he designed a gas chamber facility for the Missouri state penitentiary.

    In February 1988 he carried out a detailed onsite examination of the “gas chambers” at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek in Poland, which are either still standing or only partially in ruins. In sworn testimony to a Toronto court and in a technical report, Leuchter described every aspect of his investigation. He concluded that the alleged gassing facilities could not possibly have been used to kill people. Among other things, he pointed out that the so-called “gas chambers” were not properly sealed or vented to kill human beings without also killing German camp personnel. [21]

    Dr. William B. Lindsey, a research chemist employed for 33 years by the Dupont Corporation, likewise testified in a 1985 court case that the Auschwitz gassing story is technically impossible. Based on a careful on-site examination of the “gas chambers” at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek, and on his years of experience, he declared: “I have come to the conclusion that no one was willfully or purposefully killed with Zyklon B [hydrocyanic acid gas] in this manner. I consider it absolutely impossible.” [22]

    In March 1992, a prominent Austrian engineer made headlines when a report he had written about alleged German wartime gas chambers was made public. Walter Lüftl, a court-recognized expert engineer who headed a large engineering firm in Vienna, concluded that the familiar stories of mass extermination of Jews in gas chambers at the wartime camps of Auschwitz and Mauthausen are impossible for technical reasons. Lüftl also specifically affirmed Leuchter’s findings about Auschwitz. [23]


    Himmler Orders Death Rate Reduced


    In response to the deaths of many inmates from disease, especially typhus, the German authorities responsible for the camps ordered firm counter-measures. The head of the SS camp administration office sent a directive dated Dec. 28, 1942, to Auschwitz and the other concentration camps. It sharply criticized the high death rate of inmates due to disease, and ordered that “camp physicians must use all means at their disposal to significantly reduce the death rate in the various camps.”Furthermore, it ordered: “The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the nutrition of the prisoners and, in cooperation with the administration, submit improvement recommendations to the camp commandants … The camp doctors are to see to it that the working conditions at the various labor places are improved as much as possible.”

    Finally, the directive stressed that “the Reichsführer SS [Heinrich Himmler] has ordered that the death rate absolutely must be reduced.” [24]


    Combating Disease

    As ordered, German physicians in Auschwitz carried out wide-ranging and intensive measures to reduce the prisoners’ death rate. For example, in a letter of Feb. 25, 1943, camp physician Dr. Wirths informed the central WVHA office, which was responsible for the SS concentration camp system:

    “As already reported, after the typhus epidemic in the Auschwitz camp had practically been suppressed in November and December, there followed a new rise in typhus cases among the Auschwitz inmates as well as among troops, brought by the newly arriving transports from the East. In spite of the counter-measures that were immediately taken, a complete suppression of typhus cases has still not been achieved.” [25]

    None of this can be reconciled with the currently official Auschwitz extermination story.


    Summary

    Maintaining the hatreds and passions of the past prevents genuine reconciliation and lasting peace. The Auschwitz extermination story originated as World War II propaganda. And all wartime propaganda, unless hatred and passion are to have the final word, must be viewed critically. It is high time to take a more objective look at this highly polemicized chapter of history.



    Notes


    1. Nuremberg document 008-USSR. International Military Tribunal (IMT) “blue series,” Vol. 39, pp. 241, 261; Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression (NC&A), “red series,” vol. 1, p. 35; C.L. Sulzberger, “Oswiecim Killings Placed at 4,000,000,” New York Times, May 8, 1945, and, New York Times, Jan. 31, 1986, p. A4.
    2. Y. Bauer, “Fighting the Distortions,” Jerusalem Post (Israel), Sept. 22, 1989; “Auschwitz Deaths Reduced to a Million,” Daily Telegraph (London), July 17, 1990; ” Poland Reduces Auschwitz Death Toll Estimate to 1 Million,” The Washington Times, July 17, 1990, p. A11.
    3. G. Reitlinger, The Final Solution (London: Sphere [2nd ed.], 1971), pp. 500-501.
    4. J.-C. Pressac, Le Crématoires d’Auschwitz: La Machinerie du meurtre de mass (Paris: CNRS, 1993), p. 148. See also: M. Weber, “New ‘Official’ Changes in the Auschwitz Story,” The Journal of Historical Review, May-August 2002, pp. 24-28.
      ( http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v21/v21n3p24_weber.html )
    5. F. Meyer, “Die Zahl der Opfer von Auschwitz,” Osteuropa, May 2002, pp. 631-641. Cited in: M. Weber, “New ‘Official’ Changes in the Auschwitz Story,” The Journal of Historical Review, May-August 2002, pp. 24-28.
      (
      http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v21/v21n3p24_weber.html )
    6. Eric Conan, “Auschwitz: La Memoire du Mal,” L’Express, Jan. 19-25, 1995, pp. 54-73. See also: “Major French Magazine Acknowledges Auschwitz Gas Chamber Fraud,” Journal of Historical Review, Jan.-Feb. 1995, pp. 23-24.
      ( http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n1p23_Weber.html )
    7. Washington (DC) Daily News, Feb. 2, 1945, pp. 2, 35. (United Press dispatch from Moscow).
    8. IMT “blue series,” Vol. 16, pp. 529-530. (June 21, 1946).
    9. IMT “blue series,” Vol. 11, pp. 414-418, and IMT, Vol. 33, pp.275-279 (Nuremberg document 3868-PS [USA-819]).
    10. Rupert Butler, Legions of Death (England : 1983), pp. 235; R. Faurisson, “How the British Obtained the Confessions of Rudolf Höss,” The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1986-87, pp. 389-403.
      ( http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p389_Faurisson.html)
    11. Archives of the Jewish Historical Institute of Warsaw, German document No. 128. Cited in: H. Eschwege, ed., Kennzeichen J (Berlin [East]: 1966), p. 264.
    12. Nuremberg document NO-021. Nuremberg Military Tribunal (NMT) “green series,” Vol. 5. pp. 384-385;
    13. Arthur Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century (Chicago : 2003), pp. 157-159.
    14. Arno Mayer, Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The ‘Final Solution’ in History (Pantheon, 1988), p. 365.
    15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT “green series,” Vol. 8, p. 606.
    16. Testimony in Toronto District Court, March 28, 1988. Toronto Star, March 29, 1988, p. A2; B. Kulaszka, ed., Did Six Million Really Die?: Report of the Evidence in the Canadian ‘False News’ Trial of Ernst Zündel (Toronto : 1992), pp. 253-255.
      ( http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/21herwaarden.html)
    17. Sylvia Rothchild, ed., Voices from the Holocaust (New York: 1981), pp. 188-191.
    18. Franciszek Piper essay in: Y. Gutman & M. Berenbaum, eds., Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp (1994), p. 71.
    19. Dino A. Brugioni and Robert C. Poirier, The Holocaust Revisited (Washington, DC: Central Intelligence Agency, 1979).
    20. Testimony in Toronto District Court, April 5-6, 1988. Canadian Jewish News (Toronto), April 14, 1988, p. 6; B. Kulaszka, ed., Did Six Million Really Die?: Report of the Evidence in the Canadian ‘False News’ Trial of Ernst Zündel (Toronto: 1992), pp. 267-271.
      ( http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/26lagace.html )
    21. Testimony in Toronto District Court, April 20-21, 1988. B. Kulaszka, ed., Did Six Million Really Die?: Report of the Evidence in the Canadian ‘False News’ Trial of Ernst Zündel (Toronto: 1992), pp. 354-362.
      ( http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/33leuchter.html)
      The Leuchter Report (Toronto: 1988).
      ( http://www.ihr.org/books/leuchter/leuchter.toc.html)
    22. The Globe and Mail (Toronto), Feb. 12, 1985, p. M3. See also: M. A. Hoffman, The Great Holocaust Trial (1995 [3rd ed.]), pp. 65, 66.
    23. Walter Lüftl, “The Lüftl Report: An Austrian Engineer’s Report on the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz and Mauthausen,” The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1992-93, pp. 391-420.
      ( http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p391_Luftl.html)
    24. Nuremberg document PS-2171, Annex 2. NC&A “red series,” Vol. 4, pp. 833-834.
    25. Document 502-1-68, pp. 115-116, from the archives of the Center for the Custody of Historical Document Collection, Moscow. Quoted by C. Mattogno in “Die ‘Gasprüfer’ von Auschwitz,” Vierteljahreshefte für freie Geschichtsforschung, March 1998, p. 16 (and fn. 26). Cited in: M. Weber, “High Frequency Delousing Facilities at Auschwitz,” The Journal of Historical Review, May-June 1999, pp. 4-12.
      ( http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n3p-4_Weber.html)



    #2001 Sept. 2009


    About The Author

    Mark Weber studied history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the University of Munich, Portland State University and Indiana University (M.A., 1977). For five days in March 1988 he testified in a Toronto District Court case as a recognized expert on the “Final Solution” and the Holocaust issue.

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    For many people no amount of evidence, reason and logic would ever convince them the 'Holocaust' is only a HOAX. It, the Holohoax, resulted in the establishment of Israel, the Allies and the Russians got away with genocide, the jews got reparations and pensions from Germany and increased unchallenged their dominant power in politics and finance throughout the world

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