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    German Parents Go to Court After Police Seize Kids Over Homeschooling

    A German couple temporarily lost custody of their children because they were homeschooling them. Now the family is taking their case to the European Court of Human Rights to defend what they say is their parental right.
    The parents of four children are appearing before the Strasbourg European Court of Human Rights on Thursday to fight Germany’s near ban on homeschooling.

    In August 2013, the Wunderlich family had just begun their first homeschooling lesson of the year near Darmstadt, Hesse, when around two dozen police officers and social workers “stormed the home” using a battering ram, according to the parents and a religious freedom advocacy group ADF International.

    The children were initially taken away from their religious parents, Dirk and Petra, under Germany’s strict homeschooling laws.

    Germany requires all children to attend school, and homeschooling is essentially banned, except for in very rare circumstances. Therefore, because the Wunderlich parents had refused to send their children to school, they briefly lost custody.

    Parents who do not send their children to school face fines and imprisonment as well. Police are also allowed to take children away from their parents, as officers did to the Wunderlich family, and bring them to school. Authorities say they make such decisions based on the best interests of the child.

    But Dirk and Petra argue that it is their right to homeschool their children and that the police raid caused harm to their family life.

    “I sincerely hope the European Court of Human Rights will reaffirm that the state has no right to abduct children from their family just because they are being homeschooled,” said Dirk Wunderlich in a statement.

    “Our youngest daughter was only four years old when the authorities broke into our home and took the children without warning. She could not stop crying for 11 days. Her older sister has not laughed since this incident. We chose to educate our children at home, because we believe this to be the best environment for them to learn and thrive.”

    The Conference of State Education Ministers estimates that between 500 and 1,000 children are being homeschooled across the country despite the requirement to attend school.

    In 2014, Germany’s Constitutional Court ruled that restrictions on homeschooling were justified, explaining that the community at large has a valid interest in preventing the formation of religious or ideological parallel societies. The court argued that otherwise, homeschooled children could be closed off from engaging with those who think differently from themselves.

    The European Court ruled in 2006 that there is no right to homeschooling, using similar arguments as the German Constitutional Court, saying that parents can teach children about their own religious convictions after school.

    But other European countries are not as strict as Germany. The Wunderlich family, for example, wanted to move to France, while another family moved to Austria.

    “Children deserve the loving care and protection of their parents. It is a serious thing for a state to interfere with the parent-child bond. It should only do so where there is a real risk of serious harm,” said Robert Clarke of ADF International, lead counsel on the Wunderlich case, in a statement.
    “Petra and Dirk Wunderlich simply exercised their parental right to raise their children in line with their philosophical and religious convictions – something they thought they could do better in the home environment. The right of parents to direct the upbringing of their children is a fundamental right protected in all of the major human rights treaties. Germany has signed up to these treaties and yet continues to ignore its obligations with devastating consequences.”

    Clarke is not alone in criticizing Germany’s strict rules against homeschooling.

    “It is in fact legally wrong,” said law professor Frauke Brosius-Gersdorf of the University of Hanover.

    Brosius-Gersdorf suggested that rather than an “all-or-nothing principle”, Germany could consider whether homeschooled children could also become integrated into society in other ways, such as through sports or music groups.

    But Ilka Hoffmann of the Union for Education and Science warned against weakening Germany’s school attendance requirement.

    “It is a great democratic achievement,” Hoffmann said of the policy.

    “Often what lies behind the desire for homeschooling are radically religious groups. It cannot be within the interests of democracy to fulfill these unreasonable demands.”

    Hoffmann added that children must be protected from these kinds of sects.

    But whether the EU Court would actually make any drastic decision against Germany’s laws is another question. And though ADF International is supporting the Wunderlich family, even their organization said they don’t think the Court will insist on overturning Germany’s essential ban.

    “We hope though that a discussion about this will get started as to whether a complete ban is out-of-date,” said ADF International spokesman Andreas Thonhauser.

    A spokesman from the Conference of State Education Ministers also said reform would be unrealistic, “unless the ruling would require it”.

    “The stance is clear. There is compulsory schooling. Period.”
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    Observatory: Court Ruling Against German Homeschoolers Is ‘Major Blow to Parental Rights’


    Recent ruling by the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) found that German authorities had not violated a family’s rights when they stormed their home and carried away their four children to prevent them from receiving homeschooling, a decision condemned by human rights advocates as “a major blow to parental rights.”



    The case goes back to August 2013, when more than 30 police officers and social workers burst into the home of Dirk and Petra Wunderlich, just as they were beginning their first homeschooling lesson of the year, a practice that is illegal in Germany, and seized their children.


    Ellen Fantini, Executive Director of the Observatory on Intolerance and Discrimination against Christians in Europe, told Breitbart News on Monday that Germany is one of the only nations to criminally enforce its ban on homeschooling, and that the officials had “entered the Wunderlich home with a battering ram and taken the children by force.”


    The January 10 ruling by the ECHR defending the police action sends the very clear message that “German officials know better than parents how to educate their children,” Ms. Fantini said. “This ruling ignores the fact that Germany’s policy on homeschooling violates the rights of parents to educate their children and direct their upbringing. It is alarming to see that this was not recognized by the most influential human rights court in Europe,” said Paul Coleman, Executive Director of ADF International. “This ruling is a step in the wrong direction and should concern anyone who cares about freedom.”


    After courts in Germany ruled in favor of the government, the Wunderlich family appealed to the European Court of Human Rights, which agreed to take up the case in August 2016. The Wunderlichs argued that the government had violated Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights by forcing their four children to attend a local school.

    “I see this ruling as a major blow to parental rights across Europe,” Fantini told Breitbart. “The Wunderlichs wanted to educate their children in the environment they thought best — the home.” Fantini noted that the right of parents to direct the upbringing of their children is enshrined in all major human rights treaties to which Germany itself is a party. “It is ironic that one of the German government’s arguments against homeschooling is that children should be exposed to those who think differently than they do,” she said. “The message is: diversity of viewpoint and philosophy is to be respected – unless it conflicts with the government’s views.”


    Michael Donnelly, an international homeschooling expert and director of global outreach for the Home School Legal Defense Association, called the ruling “a huge setback.”“We will not give up the fight to protect the fundamental right of parents to homeschool their children in Germany and across Europe,” Donnelly added.


    The court’s decision “reinforces prejudices about homeschooling and the idea that children receive defective or limited education if they are taught at home,” Fantini told Breitbart News.


    The ECHR has shown that it is infected with this very prejudice by insisting that “compulsory school attendance is necessary for children to learn ‘social skills such as tolerance, assertiveness and the ability to assert their own convictions against majority-held views,’” she said.


    The only legal recourse left to the family is to bring the case before the Grand Chamber of the European Court of Human Rights, the highest level of the Court.


    “We are extremely disappointed with this ruling of the Court. It disregards the rights of parents all over Europe to raise their children without disproportionate interference from the state,” said Robert Clarke, Director of European Advocacy for ADF International and lead counsel for the Wunderlich family. “We are now advising the Wunderlichs of their options, including taking the case to the Grand Chamber of the European Court of Human Rights,” Clarke said.


    Observatory: Court Ruling Against German Homeschoolers Is ‘Major Blow to Parental Rights’ 14 Jan 2019.
    Chinese poet and philosopher Lu T'ung...

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    Chances are a homeschooled child will not be a liberal cultural marxist

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    Public school teachers have been thoroughly liberalized in order to obtain their liberal arts teaching degree.

    5 Ways Teacher Strikes Revealed Public Schools Indoctrinate Kids

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    “compulsory school attendance is necessary for children to learn ‘social skills such as tolerance, assertiveness and the ability to assert their own convictions against majority-held views,’” she said.
    There was a time when schools taught you to read and write. This appears to have slipped well down the priority list.

    "To assert their own convictions against majority-held views" is clearly bunkum. Just question the Holocaust© and see how far this gets you!

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    Record numbers homeschooling — Study shows interest from parents at ‘all-time high’


    The percentage of American parents who want to homeschool their children is at an all-time high, and they’re citing violence, drugs and bullying in public schools as the main reason why.



    The 2019 Schooling In America survey, conducted by the school choice nonprofit EdChoice over the summer, details several interesting trends in education, including insight into what’s driving the explosive growth in homeschooling in recent years.



    “We have asked parents about their school type preferences for eight years, allowing us to analyze trends over this time period. Since 2014, current school parents have expressed slightly greater preferences for private schools compared to public district schools. The proportion of parents who would opt for home schooling is at an all-time high (15%), and the percentage of parents who would prefer a public charter school (14%) increase 3 points since last year,” according to the report.



    Data shows that the percentage of parents who wanted to homeschool was at only 5% in 2012, and it steadily increased over the last seven years, with the exception of a spike to 13% in 2014.



    The top five reasons homeschooling parents said they pulled their children from the public school system were:

    “Safety/ Less Drugs, Violence/ Bullying” at 24%,

    “Individual Attention/ One-on-One/ Customized” at 14%,

    “Academics/ Curriculum/ Standards/ Results” at 13%,

    “Better Education/ Quality” 5%

    and “Discipline/ Structure/ Consistency,” 5% .


    The EdChoice survey results jive with data from the National Home Education Research Institute that shows a steady increase in the numbers of parents who are educating their children at home.


    “ …. There were an estimated 2.3 million (homeschool students) in spring 2016, and this was up from one estimate of about 2 million home-educated children (in grades K to 12) during the spring of 2010 in the United States,” according to the nonprofit. “It appears the homeschool population is continuing to grow at an estimated 2% to 8% per annum over the past few years.”



    The National Center for Education Statistics reports “from 1999 to 2012, the percentage of students who were homeschooled doubled, from an estimated 1.7 percent to 2.4 percent,” with more recent estimates suggesting growth has tapered.



    But NHERI in-depth analysis of the data reveals the growth of homeschooling in NCES figures is likely understated, providing figures from more than a dozen states that shows why. “While the overall school-age population in the United States grew by about 2.0 % from spring 2012 to spring 2016, data from 16 states from all four major regions of the nation showed that homeschooling grew by an average of about 25% in those states,” NHERI reports. “If the data from these states are representative of what happened in other states during those four years, then homeschooling is continuing to grow in both absolute numbers and as a portion of the overall school-age population.”



    The growth is bolstered by countless studies and analysis that show homeschooled students consistently perform better on standardized tests, are more tolerant of their peers, score higher on college entrance exams, and are generally more successful after school, on average, than students educated in public schools.



    But lawmakers in numerous states, including Iowa, Michigan, Oklahoma, Virginia and others, are working with special interests to demand restrictions and regulations for homeschooling families, using rare cases of abuse at home to make their case, Reason reports.



    The push to penalize homeschoolers is especially egregious in the context of daily reports of violence, drugs, political indoctrination and sexual abuse of students by educators in public schools across the country.



    The EdChoice survey suggests parents understand the situation and more than ever want to educate their kids at home, which is undoubtedly a concerning proposition for politicians, bureaucrats and special interests that rely on the public school system for their livelihood.



    “So government-run schools are academically inferior to homeschooling, riddled with crime and abuse, and producing graduates less tolerant than their counterparts who were educated at home,” according to Reason. “But rather than fix their pet institutions, politicians prefer to grab for power over people fleeing from their grasp.”



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth Lee Hunter View Post
    Public school teachers have been thoroughly liberalized in order to obtain their liberal arts teaching degree.

    5 Ways Teacher Strikes Revealed Public Schools Indoctrinate Kids

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/02/...ctrinate-kids/


    Don't confuse the liberal arts with the way that "liberal" is used nowadays.

    The Liberal Arts used to be the Trivium and the Quadrivium. I guess most liberals of today don't even know what that means.

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