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    Canada's Fentanyl Crisis

    I thought it would be interesting to know what some of you think about Canada's Fentanyl overdose crisis affecting many thousands across the country.

    t’s as easy as ordering a book online: Sign up for an account, choose a method of payment, and receive the package in three to four business days.

    But first, there are some choices to make. The fentanyl hydrochloride comes in a variety of quantities, ranging from a half-gram sample for $35 (U.S) to a kilogram for $21,000. It also comes in different strengths – purchasers are warned to “be careful” and do their research on the product, described as 99-per-cent pure. And of course, there are the related pharmaceutical products: the fentanyl patches, tablets and even lollipops.

    Buyers are assured their package won’t get seized at the Canadian border. To avoid the risk of detection, says a supplier from China, he conceals the purchase alongside urine test strips. Not that there’s reason to worry: Canadian border guards cannot open packages weighing less than 30 grams without the consent of the recipient. (A Globe and Mail reporter corresponded with sellers and suppliers using a pseudonym and did not disclose himself as a journalist, in order to obtain accurate information from the seller.)

    The supplier, who identified himself only as Alan, says he has two customers in Canada. He e-mails photos of fentanyl hidden inside silica-desiccant packets – the type normally used when shipping goods such as electronics – and a screen shot of a recent order from Canada, including a shipping address for a clothing store in British Columbia’s picturesque Okanagan Valley.

    Alan says he is based in the southern metropolis of Guangzhou, the trading crossroads for manufacturing in China – a country that is, in turn, at the centre of the vast underground world of synthetic-drug manufacturers. Enforcement is fragmented, and companies operate with impunity.

    Fentanyl is an opioid, a class of painkillers that also includes oxycodone and morphine. Prescription-grade fentanyl is up to 100 times more toxic than morphine. Developed in 1959 by a Belgian chemist, it was quickly adopted as a pain reliever and anesthetic in medical settings. It came into widespread use in the mid-1990s with the introduction of the transdermal patch that releases the drug into the patient’s bloodstream over two or three days. When the drug is processed in a clandestine lab with no quality controls, it is difficult to get the dosage right, making it potentially much more dangerous.

    Chemical companies in China custom-design variants of pharmaceutical-grade fentanyl by tweaking a molecule ever so slightly. A few hundred micrograms – the weight of a single grain of salt – are enough to trigger heroin-like bliss. But the line between euphoria and fatal overdose is frighteningly thin: An amount the size of two grains of salt can kill a healthy adult.

    The supply chain for illicit fentanyl begins in China, but the problems Canada is experiencing start right here at home: No other country in the world consumes more prescription opioids on a per-capita basis, according to a recent United Nations report. The widespread use of prescription opioids is behind the rise of a new class of drug addicts, many of whom are turning to the black market to feed their habit. In British Columbia and Alberta, the two hardest-hit provinces, fatal overdoses linked to fentanyl soared from 42 in 2012 to 418 in 2015.
    While the way statistics are gathered differently in Ontario, the crisis is very much here as well. I can attest to the devastating damage of fentanyl to my own community in Hamilton.

    What is also interesting is that those dying are disproportionately white middle aged men.

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    I don't get it, can't folks get a prescription for opiates from a doctor? Why are they ordering it from the Chinese? Is it used as a recreational drug? And why are folks risking so much if a grain can send them signing with the angels?

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    The fentanyl that is fueling this crisis is not a pharmaceutical, it is an illicit powder substance. Fentanyl first became popular through prescribed fentanyl patches, but it is now this Chinese powder. My understanding is that users are attracted to fentanyl because it is cheap, and others unknowingly fall victim to the fentanyl thinking what they are taking is heroin.

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    I think it's horrible. It's both drugs, and supporting an illicit non-Germanic business. What's that substance exactly, doesn't it classify as a first class drug? They should find and shut down the labs.

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    It is legally manufactured in China. There is nothing to be done other than stopping it at customs. What I would like to explore is the slow and inadequate response to the overdose crisis, as well as it being largely ignored in much of the country. In my city the siren of ambulances is in much of the city constant as people are dying in the streets. This is happening as well in certain parts of Toronto. May it not be ignored, that a disproportionate number of deaths can be attributed to the youth - middle aged white male demographic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leichenfelder View Post
    There is nothing to be done other than stopping it at customs.
    Although that would have been a good measure, had it been feasible, I believe it is not grabbing the problem by its roots. People who seek out powerful anaesthetics such as heroin and fentanyl, usually don't have a good network of friends and family, job opportunities or generally a positive outlook on their future. Luckily, that is something that can be done something about.

    Also, a lot of deaths can be prevented by how the users' addiction is treated by the larger community. In Norway, we have Europe's second highest mortality rate among drug addicts (second only to Estonia), despite having one of the World's highest standard of living. Drug addicts here are generally treated as criminals, with substantial fines and prison sentences for possession and use of any illicit drugs, and most of them not receiving treatment when they need it.

    In Portugal, they experienced a major drug epidemic at the end of the 90s, when an estimated 1% of the population was addicted to heroin. In 2001, they decriminalized all drugs, and transferred the government's role in dealing with narcotics from the Justice Department to the Ministry of Health. Today, they are seeing the fruits of this, by having one of Europe's lowest rates in drug-induced mortalities. Punishing people who are in a bad life-situation already, will only do matters worse.
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    It's probably a consequence because people don't want to buy street heroin anymore.
    How do you stop it at customs, without opening everyone's letters and trampling on their rights?
    I agree with Þoreiðar, the war on drugs has to change. Focus more on treatment and rehabilitation programs for drug addicts, so they don't have to crawl on the streets and overdose.
    Shut down the drug cartels instead of filling the prisons with buyers. Put the cartels out of business by offering substitution drug programs.

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    The war on drugs is a failure but remember in Victorian times opiate abuse was not restricted to the wealthy or a subculture: widely available opiates as casual medication caused no end of social decline during the 19th century as it entered the mainstream as respectable medication.

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    Like alcohol prohibition theres no point banning it altogether: just curtail it best you can.

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    The problem is not the war on drugs, but that it's not being taken seriously. The politicians and police are corrupt and cooperating with drug dealers and prostitutes. Drug dealers are criminals who profit from the lack of action of the authorities. They arrest some guy who smokes weed but don't arrest the people who sold him the weed. They should arrest both.

    Drug addicts are the next level just below immigrants: a burden on normal people and leeching off the state.

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    It's a dangerous drug all the more it should be illegal. There need to be some limitations for the sake of our folk's health, and drug legalisation would bring too many problems. Drugs would become socially acceptable, like tobacco and alcohol, and more peoples would abuse them.

    I'm aware heroin and cocaine were once sold as pharmaceuticals but that doesn't mean we should emulate the mistakes of our ancestors. They also painted their faces with lead and ate radium chocolate, radium was quite popular at some point. Humanity is not infallible...


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