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    Post Re: Pan-European Albanians and Greeks

    Awar, the thing you quoted me on was just meant for a quick history lesson, European history isn't allways pan-European wether any of us like it or not. We are the ones fightiong for pan-Europeanism.

    Alkman I think your a little confused on my position. I believ in coperation between European nations. Not fighting amoung them. We are all nationalists here. We just need to point our nationalism in a pan-European direction, and not at eachother.

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    Post Re: Pan-European Albanians and Greeks

    We're not talking about ancient history, but current political affairs.
    You support the barbarous deeds of Albanians on Kosovo from march 2004.
    and atrocities commited between 1998-2004.

    This was all done with support from jUSA and Islamists.

    You can not be a pan-Europeanist and a supporter of these anti-European atrocities.

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    Post Re: Pan-European Albanians and Greeks

    Please, people, leave Tyrkanos in peace.
    You 're asking him to renounce everything Albanians have done to prove that he is a Paneuropeanist.
    May I remind you that it wasn't Tyrkanos that fought in Kosovo.

    You 're practically asking him to grovel at your feet, begging for forgiveness!
    Someone has even stated that he must apologize about the fact that Albanians are breeding fast! ( Well, I think that it's the rest of us that should apologize for the fact that we are not breeding fast enough! )

    At the same time, none of us renounces his nation's claims.
    And none of us is willing to openly state ( like Tyrkanos does ) that he renounces his nationality for the sake of a united Europe.

    Well, I say that my priorities are straight.
    If a hypothetical NS Greece invades a non-NS Albania, then, I will fight in a Greek uniform.
    If a hypothetical NS ALbania invades a non-NS Greece, I will fight in an Albanian uniform.
    If a hypothetical NS Serbia invades a non-NS Albania, I will fight in a Serbian uniform.
    And, if all of these countries are (for argument's sake) NS, then they will not invade each other, before NS is consolidated around the whole world.
    Otherwise, they are not NS.
    Flying a swastika around does not make one a NS.
    NS started as a nationalist movement, but, in the course of time it took a desicively Pan-European, or rather a Pan-Aryan stance.
    Whoever does not understand this is nothing but a chauvinist with a swastika.


    What I see dissapoints me.
    We have not been taught anything from the lessons of the past.
    We are always willing to fight against each other, instead of fighting against our Common Enemy.
    ANd, often I wonder: could it be that our Common Enemy works behind the scenes to incite intra-racial hatred?

    And it always becomes straight, that, in the end, instead of having Race as our No1 priority, we care about religion, nation-state and all the rest last refuges of jewish scum.
    Even worse (like in SF), we CONFUSE Race with religion (the usual Whites vs Muslims paradox).

    Awar, you are a very intelligent person ( despite the fact that you believe the System's propaganda about what would happen IF the Reich had won the war ) and, yes, I agree that religion has played an important role in the past, but NOWADAYS, no-one gives a damn about it.
    None of the Balkan butchers (of whatever side) gave a damn about religion. They just used it to persuade others (not so religious either) to follow them in a war that helped ONLY the Americans government.
    Because the fools will follow, only if you give them an "proper" excuse.
    No-one will risk his life if he knows that he fights for another man' interests.
    But, he will die for precious Jesus ot precious Mohammed... LOL

    I say that, yes, Islam is an non-white religion.
    So is Christianity. No matter how "european" it might seem, the basic core of Christianity is anti-Aryan.

    Yes, nations and sub-races are important.
    But no nation and no sub-race is more important than the whole Race.
    Because, if the whole Race falls, every nation and every sub-race goes down too.

    OF COURSE, those Albanians that ally themselves with Washington are traitors of the Race and thus, our enemies.
    But the same thing can be said about the current Serbian or Greek government.

    Of course, the majority of the Albanian population are not pro-European minded.
    Well, the majority of the European population is a mindless pro-jewish herd of slaves!
    Who cares about majorities?

    But, you forget that Tyrkanos has made a great step forward and put Europe as his No1 priority.
    HOW DO YOU EXPECT OTHER ALBANIANS TO IMITATE HIM, IF YOU TREAT HIM LIKE THIS?
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    Post Re: Pan-European Albanians and Greeks

    The words Kosovo and Metohija have nothing to do with the Albanian language.



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    Post Re: Pan-European Albanians and Greeks

    Thank you Phoas.

    I would like to say that I am Albanian and proud. I am also European and proud.
    This is the pan-European idea. Balance between your ethnicity and your European race.

    Awar, I do not support any massacres of any Europeans angainst eachother wherever they may be.

    To clarify this stereo type you guys seem to have, the majority of Albanians in Albania are very pro-European. My catholic family in Albania has always been pro-European. As for the "muslims". MOST of them are just as equal as us in terms of being culturally European. The islamists you are thinking about are the many backward Albanians in "Macedonia".

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    Post Re: Pan-European Albanians and Greeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaos
    Please, people, leave Tyrkanos in peace.
    Nobody's attacking him. Only countering the nonsense derrived from the
    contradictory things he says.

    You 're asking him to renounce everything Albanians have done to prove that he is a Paneuropeanist.
    There's no future for pan-Europeanism if everyone secretly dreams of
    teritorial expansion. Not only is it lethal for the concept, it's also rather dumb in this day, location and age for two main reasons.

    1. There are no valuable resources. Teritories are conquered for economical purposes. There's no such justification for teritories in the Balkans.
    The bloodshed outweights the worth of the teritory.

    2. Bloodshed is exactly what jUSA and Islamists like to see.

    May I remind you that it wasn't Tyrkanos that fought in Kosovo.
    So? If Tyrkanos was the ruler of Albania, would he treat Kosovo
    like a pan-Europeanist, or an Albanian expansionist?

    You 're practically asking him to grovel at your feet, begging for forgiveness!
    Not true. I don't want or need anyone begging for forgiveness.
    I don't view this emotionally at all.
    Tyrkanos is contradicting himself on the subject of Kosovo,
    it's absolutely important that ALL European nations abandon
    their extra teritorial claims. Leave Alsace in France, leave Kosovo in Serbia,
    or there will never be peace, just war from which the enemies of Europe will always profit.

    Someone has even stated that he must apologize about the fact that Albanians are breeding fast! ( Well, I think that it's the rest of us that should apologize for the fact that we are not breeding fast enough! )
    Nobody needs such high natality rates.
    Children in Albania are born into a life of poverty.
    No plan, just multiplication, eating-up of resources,
    natality beyond economic ability.

    At the same time, none of us renounces his nation's claims.
    And none of us is willing to openly state ( like Tyrkanos does ) that he renounces his nationality for the sake of a united Europe.
    Nobody asks for renouncing nationality. Just renounce war with thy neighbours. Albanians don't do that, they don't intend to renounce their 'greater Albania', even the Albanians who like to label themselves as pan-Europeanist, are also dreaming of expanding onto Serbian and other soil.

    Well, I say that my priorities are straight.
    If a hypothetical NS Greece invades a non-NS Albania, then, I will fight in a Greek uniform.
    If a hypothetical NS ALbania invades a non-NS Greece, I will fight in an Albanian uniform.
    If a hypothetical NS Serbia invades a non-NS Albania, I will fight in a Serbian uniform.
    And, if all of these countries are (for argument's sake) NS, then they will not invade each other, before NS is consolidated around the whole world.
    Otherwise, they are not NS.
    Flying a swastika around does not make one a NS.
    NS started as a nationalist movement, but, in the course of time it took a desicively Pan-European, or rather a Pan-Aryan stance.
    Whoever does not understand this is nothing but a chauvinist with a swastika.
    LOL You live in a dreamworld.
    During war, there's no clash of ideologies, but a clash of people.



    What I see dissapoints me.
    We have not been taught anything from the lessons of the past.
    We are always willing to fight against each other, instead of fighting against our Common Enemy.
    ANd, often I wonder: could it be that our Common Enemy works behind the scenes to incite intra-racial hatred?
    Definitely. Look how our common enemy has instigated the Albanians
    to act like barbarians, just so they could cause a never-ending circle of bloodshed and terror.


    And it always becomes straight, that, in the end, instead of having Race as our No1 priority, we care about religion, nation-state and all the rest last refuges of jewish scum.
    Even worse (like in SF), we CONFUSE Race with religion (the usual Whites vs Muslims paradox).
    I don't care about religion.
    However, Islam is not simply a religion.
    It's an entire social/economic/political/ethnic system.

    Once a man becomes a Muslim he doesn't have his nationality/ethnicity anymore.

    Awar, you are a very intelligent person ( despite the fact that you believe the System's propaganda about what would happen IF the Reich had won the war )
    I'm not so stupid to believe official versions of anything.
    Germany was NS, but it's goal wasn't to spread the 'holy gospel' of NS,
    it's goal was to expand it's teritories.


    and, yes, I agree that religion has played an important role in the past, but NOWADAYS, no-one gives a damn about it.
    None of the Balkan butchers (of whatever side) gave a damn about religion. They just used it to persuade others (not so religious either) to follow them in a war that helped ONLY the Americans government.
    Religion is THE factor here. People who don't think much of it, still die for it,
    perhaps not because they truly are religious, but because the allies they have through this religion are promising them something.

    The Muslims of Bosnia never were religious. Yet, they started a war with the word 'Islam' on their lips, just because it got them help from the rich Muslims of Arabia. But, then, there were dues to pay.
    Now, the Muslims of Bosnia are pressed into more and more fundamental Islam, by their 'helpers'. The devil came to collect.
    Future generations of Bosnians will be more and more fundamental Muslims.

    Because the fools will follow, only if you give them an "proper" excuse.
    No-one will risk his life if he knows that he fights for another man' interests.
    But, he will die for precious Jesus ot precious Mohammed... LOL
    Sorta like the fabled National-Socialism or Communism ideals.
    But, the leaders never really intend to follow through the ideals.
    History is filled with oh-so-sad tales of betrayed alliances and
    broken promises.


    Nobody really cares if Albanians truly get their 'greater Albania', they just
    like to use Albanians as cannon fodder, and agent provocateur in the region.


    I say that, yes, Islam is an non-white religion.
    So is Christianity. No matter how "european" it might seem, the basic core of Christianity is anti-Aryan.
    Whatever, the good of Europe should be first place.
    A Muslim is not a threat, as long as he doesn't want to
    turn Europe into Mohammad's vision of the world.


    Yes, nations and sub-races are important.
    But no nation and no sub-race is more important than the whole Race.
    Because, if the whole Race falls, every nation and every sub-race goes down too.
    Well... there are many who think that everyone who isn't a WASP is non-white.

    OF COURSE, those Albanians that ally themselves with Washington are traitors of the Race and thus, our enemies.
    But the same thing can be said about the current Serbian or Greek government.

    Of course, the majority of the Albanian population are not pro-European minded.
    You said it yourself. The general population of Albania is conditioned to be
    slaves to jUSA interests. Tyrkanos too.

    Well, the majority of the European population is a mindless pro-jewish herd of slaves!
    Who cares about majorities?
    Everyone does.

    But, you forget that Tyrkanos has made a great step forward and put Europe as his No1 priority.
    HOW DO YOU EXPECT OTHER ALBANIANS TO IMITATE HIM, IF YOU TREAT HIM LIKE THIS?
    I don't want Albanians to imitate him. They should imitate me.
    Seriously, his pseudo-europeanism is sickening.
    As soon as you ask a few questions, he starts contradicting himself,
    and exposes his true Albanian chauvinist tendencies.

    Some pan-European role model that is

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    Post Re: Pan-European Albanians and Greeks

    ΕΥΤΥΧΕΙΤΕ!
    Dear Fellows,
    dear Alkman and dear Awar,
    the matter is to make yourselves free of any chauvinistic preocupation in order to UNDERSTAND what Tyrkanos and European reality say: the political slogan of "Albanian expansion" has nothing to do with Albanians! It is another weapon in America's hands and only ignorants or agents are ready to use it. Be careful dear Alkman, you are very intelligent in order to avoid American traps. And Cristianity, has nothing to do with Hellas and Hellenes, dear Awar! You have to study better Hellenic nature and History before to express such Ideas. Christianity was the tomb of Hellas and Hellenism, a tomb over the ruins of Hellenic Civilization!

    Tyrkanos is one of the perfect expressions of European Spirit in this miserable area!

    A real son of the Skanderberg-Adler!

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    Post Re: Pan-European Albanians and Greeks

    Who says a muslim cant be pan-european? why does European always have to=Christian? It's your political views that count! so if an Albanian is a muslim AND a pan european I dont see a problem with that? Xianitiy is a Jewish disease that spread among an alien people(europeans) Islam=warrior religion=Solar forces,Christianity=lunar=feminine=anti-tradition If we were to search for the warrior caste in Europe it would be in the hands of the Jihadi's.

    Hail the solar rage that is Islam!

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    Post Re: Pan-European Albanians and Greeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Razmig

    I do not accept Aksel, he is obviously not anything like me, nor racially, nor culturally and in many cases far in linguistics.
    People like you have been creating disunity between Armenians. You are the reason Armenians cannot agree on one thing, as a result our people have not been able to unite and create and opposing force to our enemies. Dorian is right you are not Armenian, you are in denial of what you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Razmig
    Dorian, it's enough you try to judge my Armenianism, give it a rest. I'm more Armenian than Aksel will ever be...unlike people from Armenia, we fought for our lands AND theirs.
    Who fought for the liberation in Karabakh? The majority of the troops were Eastern Armenians, but yes Western Armenians helped too. Do you see what we can accomplish when Eastern and Western Armenians unite and fight together. You are forgetting that 100 years ago Eastern and Western Armenians worked together. We were one people and we will always be one. You are just creating some fairy tail.

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    Post Re: Pan-European Albanians and Greeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Volksdeutscher
    I do not argue whether Greeks are not European (better: Europid) or not.
    What exactly do you mean by this?? better europid? now if i am right you here in skadi refere to someone who is outside the borders of europe europid, right? So i don`t get your point.

    Let me tell you this, well atlest what i and others think. Thinking of the word european, the nordic countreys are the last to think of for me. I firstly think of central europe like germany, france, holland.... then of southern, and last scandiniavia!
    Now greece is refered to as "western euopean"(even if it is situated in the southeast part of), because the cradle of europe began in greece, and that greece is more likely the "western" countreys. I don`t care how it is.., but greece is fully european, and albanians according to me are ugly criminal people.
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