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Thread: Realistic Future for Germanics/When Are We Past the Point of No Return?

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    Eldritch, be of good cheer. The large numbers of white folk in my area, their constant achievements and striving, their success and their will to excel are beacons to me that we will survive. Awakening, yes, but you have to lay it on the masses gently. They are unaware that they are being duped. Basically the average person is a good guy but gullible. I'm sorry that people feel so depressed. That's why I keep on and on about feeling optimistic. It's like the field of poppies in The Wizard of Oz. They mustn't give in and fall asleep or they will sleep forever.

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    Small isolated pockets of Nordish people will not survive in the truly long run, that is a tragic fact.
    I fear this will be true. There will be a white minority here in America, but it will continue to dwindle I believe through stagant birthrates and continual conflict with other more numerous racial groups. :frown: As their behavior shows, once other races are predominant they will not show the egalitarian concern for "minorities" that my foolish people have. I predict it will be as in South Africa and Rhodesia, white people as an embattled minority under continual assault in a country they founded :angryfis: I hate to lose a land my pioneer ancestors fought and bled to build up from wilderness starting 400 years ago, but that seems to be an inevitable conclusion.
    I hate to be the pessimist but I'm afraid it also means being a realist in this case.
    "Yet Thomas Jefferson’s interest in the Saxon heritage went far beyond matters of philology. He held that the forward movement of British settlement in North America was a continuation of the original migration of Hengist and Horsa. It was all part of the vigorous expansion of a superior group of people. Jefferson even went so far as to suggest that the form of government being adopted in the emerging United States represented a restoration of the sublime Anglo-Saxon principles..."

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    We are surviving here. Some of our students have just returned end of year results with up to ten distinctions. We are much tougher than any opposition. We will survive. Please be like us. Believe, believe, believe in yourselves and work, work, work inside your communities to help educate and support and promote the group.

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    My thanks to all who have posted their insights into this issue in this thread.

    My intention was not to spread apathy, pessimism or defeatist mentality among membership, quite the opposite.

    This thread is purely theoretical, although hopefully with a connection to our present reality.

    Like I said, I believe that:

    1. at present things are getting worse for us.

    2. they will continue to do so for the foreseeable future

    3. however at some point whatever remains of our folk will see reality for what it is.

    These are things I have no reason whatsoever to doubt will happen sooner or later.

    It is at this point that things become interesting.

    Will there be enough of us left to halt and reverse the tide?

    Or will we still be too lazy, too complacent, too rich to act?


    Do not entertain any dreams of a glorious final stand. If we cannot offer them resistance exactly where we are now, we never will.

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    You betcha, lei.talk. That's where I've seen the most unbelievable resistance and success. Apart from the Boer population of SA, who despite having a measure of non-white blood and a massive numerical minority as a group are some of the toughest optimists on earth today. And they are hugely successful. If they ever don't succeed it's where they are their own worst enemies when they lapse into racism or overt religious preoccupation. When they are functioning under stress they are very hard to beat for perseverence and achievement. The whites of South Africa in general are thriving. That's a promise. It's good news all the way. They are expanding into business and entrepreneurial enterprise. They're migrating all over the world and taking their skills with them. They leave behind families here who carry the torch. Our economy is booming. Apart from the government inefficiency and the crime, we are a success story that has only just begun. We are reinventing ourselves. And we did it our way.

    There's hope. That's a promise. Sometimes you have to think outside the box but there is hope. Never give up on yourselves. And always remember to ask yourself what the left wants to hear you saying. Then say and think the opposite.

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    Things will have to grow more grim and gruesome.
    You can not make an omelete without breaking some eggs.:frown:

    As long as the general population cares more about their tit-entertainment on TV
    and their ice-cold Bud in the fridge nothing drastic will happen.

    Either the invaders will provoke (or they will be provoked to )
    a conflict that will force the fence-sitters on either of the sides or they will
    simply take advantage of our weakness and continue pillaging the way they
    have used to. And we sit and watch.

    The latter is the most likely thing to occur. When this has been going on for
    enough time, our people will retaliate.

    I have compelete confidence in future.:

    (a lot of life-fluid is going to flow though in the process, and it will not be only theirs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldritch
    My intention was not to spread apathy, pessimism or defeatist mentality among tNP membership, quite the opposite.
    Yes, you are merely stating facts. We must take these facts and try to come to some conclusions on the next step to take.

    However, in my slow growing knowledge of the nature of mankind, it seems that the solution is both far and near. It is not a clear though as we might want it to be; solutions tend to be riddled with ideology and myth.

    I believe though that complex systems are not totally subject to mere speculation. Our Indo-European, and specifically Nordish populations, though now bound to growing fatalistic predictions, can still persist, and can still follow the natural evolutionary path it has been following, despite being suckered into a growing minority status.

    Quote Originally Posted by perkele14
    As long as the general population cares more about their tit-entertainment on TV and their ice-cold Bud in the fridge nothing drastic will happen.
    I say, let them continue their path to devolution, even if they are Nordish. Let them become fat and illiterate. We know who to ignore when we take our belief in our own destiny to the next level. Of course, we want to encourage people to understand both their natures and nature as it is, but the fact is, if tit-entertainment is more important to them than eternity, I'd rather let them be. It's their own fault for not following the narrow, but correct, path.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Falcon
    Look ahead. There will be bad times but survival is the succcessful meeting of challenges by adaptation and by action.
    I believe the spirit of our people is in our children, innocent and open to quality thought. If we fail to give them quality thought, we fail our people. It's that simple, and that's what happened to our apathetic West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian

    I believe the spirit of our people is in our children, innocent and open to quality thought. If we fail to give them quality thought, we fail our people. It's that simple, and that's what happened to our apathetic West.
    Totally agree, Brian. Discipline is lacking, guidance is lacking and example is lacking. Fortunately not across the board - there are fine exceptions.

    Good news is that the media is flopping. People are not watching movies or listening to music as planned. They are switching off and turning elsewhere. This is opening up a huge alternative market for a number of things. A whole new alternative market economy for enterprising people with new ideas. What are we waiting for? Even schools are diversifying and are now able to teach specific behaviour codes under the guise of "culture orientation". Fertile ground. Exploit diversity. Use the new laws of human rights to your own benefit. Get them by their own machinations. Serves them right. They will be sorry they ever invented multiculturalism. We shall show them what that really means. And the mother of all backlashes has already begun. So don't worry, be happy. The internet comprises 69% porn at a profit of ten billion dollars. That shows you how many people are worthless. Let them go. Who wants this muck anyway? Travel light, arrive soon.

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    @ Eldritch

    We are not past the point of inevitable racial extinction but we are past a few points of no return.

    Before any extinction is possible: We will learn to squat and subsist off rice and will destroy the Jews through usury. Not strange at all in the context of European history where a people utilized semitic ideology to driveout semitic racial enemies.

    Any tools that our enemies have will be twice as deadly in our hands. Our enemies are primitive and genetically defective. They don't proselytize actively; they attract only degenerates and mutants from outlying populations as both converts and tools/sympathizers. Our enemies are literally inbred with a continual trickle of degenerate blood vacating us and entering them.

    Degenerates by occupation:

    5% peasants (farmers)
    10% workers (factory)
    50% intellectuals
    75% literature, art
    90% mass media

    Prime example of degenerate entering his rightful place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Falcon
    There are pockets and gene pools of strongly white folk worldwide.
    http://juniperhills.net/nuevagermania.html
    http://www.davidwoodard.com/

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldritch
    Small isolated pockets of Nordish people will not survive in the truly long run, that is a tragic fact.
    Only if they act like Nordish people do today which is impossible, they’d be dead. Recall the battle of Blood River in South Africa. As long as we control our media and our racially aware we can handle great odds.

    There are many possible outcomes in which we lose. It could look similar to this.

    Whites could never again possess a racial state, there would be a monolithic, homogenized state of mongrels and half breeds. Members of the horde will sometimes notice others have pure white skin, or blue eyes, but it will be an unconscious visual observation, a base recognition of attractiveness in females, then they will be hit in the face and raped.

    The concept of a "White race" might always survive because throughout history those with relatively lighter skin have ruled over the other peoples. Will Europeans survive? No guarantee.

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